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Minnesota trades:
Jimmy Butler
Tyus Jones
Minnesota receives:
Robert Covington
Josh Jackson
Myers Leonard
Minnesota gets a couple of great perimeter defenders to replace Butler's contributions. They are also both locked up long-term.
Portland trades:
CJ McCollum
Al-Farouq Aminu
Myers Leonard
Portland receives:
Jimmy Butler
Tyson Chandler
Portland does this if they are confident they can get Butler to re-sign. Zach Collins looks ready to move in the starting line-up at PF and this teams looks very solid both offensively and defensively. Tyson Chandler improves the defense at back-up center at the expense of offense. The Blazers also save $9 million in salary and get a TPE for later use.
Phoenix trades:
Josh Jackson
Tyson Chandler
Phoenix receives:
Markelle Fultz
Tyus Jones
Jarred Bayless
The Suns move a superfluous wing in Jackson for a trio of guards. If Fultz pans out at PG alongside Booker they look very solid.They are in no rush to win and can give Fultz the playing time and role he needs to develop.
Philadelphia trades:
Markelle Fultz
Robert Covington
Jarred Bayless
Philadelphia receives:
CJ McCollum
Al Farouq Aminu
CJ McCollum is what they need Fultz to be. An awesome off ball shooter who and also create instant offense and also some for others. Aminu and Covington are similar players although Aminu has the risk of an ending contract.
Jimmy Butler
Tyus Jones
Minnesota receives:
Robert Covington
Josh Jackson
Myers Leonard
Minnesota gets a couple of great perimeter defenders to replace Butler's contributions. They are also both locked up long-term.
Portland trades:
CJ McCollum
Al-Farouq Aminu
Myers Leonard
Portland receives:
Jimmy Butler
Tyson Chandler
Portland does this if they are confident they can get Butler to re-sign. Zach Collins looks ready to move in the starting line-up at PF and this teams looks very solid both offensively and defensively. Tyson Chandler improves the defense at back-up center at the expense of offense. The Blazers also save $9 million in salary and get a TPE for later use.
Phoenix trades:
Josh Jackson
Tyson Chandler
Phoenix receives:
Markelle Fultz
Tyus Jones
Jarred Bayless
The Suns move a superfluous wing in Jackson for a trio of guards. If Fultz pans out at PG alongside Booker they look very solid.They are in no rush to win and can give Fultz the playing time and role he needs to develop.
Philadelphia trades:
Markelle Fultz
Robert Covington
Jarred Bayless
Philadelphia receives:
CJ McCollum
Al Farouq Aminu
CJ McCollum is what they need Fultz to be. An awesome off ball shooter who and also create instant offense and also some for others. Aminu and Covington are similar players although Aminu has the risk of an ending contract.
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Not the biggest Josh Jackson fan, but no I’m not trading him for Fultz.
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This is way too good for Portland. You're not going to dump Leonard's contract and acquire Butler for only McCollum. If Philly was willing to part with Fultz and Convington, they'd just cut the other two teams out and take Butler.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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I dont think it's likely Portland would trade McCollum and Aminu for a one year rental of Jimmy Butler even if it gets rid of Leonard. This creates more holes in their big rotation than they can overcome and leaves them high and dry for the foreseeable future. If they were seriously consider this they may as well choose to just blow up the roster all together.
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You seem to be really underrating Aminu. He and Covington are really similar players and the same age.jbk1234 wrote:This is way too good for Portland. You're not going to dump Leonard's contract and acquire Butler for only McCollum. If Philly was willing to part with Fultz and Convington, they'd just cut the other two teams out and take Butler.
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You're assuming Butler bolts. I am assuming he stays. Obviously Portland would never make this trade if they didn't expect Butler to have a high probability of staying and staying healthy.deadfeather wrote:I dont think it's likely Portland would trade McCollum and Aminu for a one year rental of Jimmy Butler even if it gets rid of Leonard. This creates more holes in their big rotation than they can overcome and leaves them high and dry for the foreseeable future. If they were seriously consider this they may as well choose to just blow up the roster all together.
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I don't like any deal where Portland gives up CJ for Butler... I don't see Bulter re-signing.. losing Aminu to do it is even worse.
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That surprises me. Both have fallen short of expectations but Fultz fills a very clear need while Jackson's role is uncertain. Care to elaborate?DaleyBlind wrote:Not the biggest Josh Jackson fan, but no I’m not trading him for Fultz.
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Village Idiot wrote:You seem to be really underrating Aminu. He and Covington are really similar players and the same age.jbk1234 wrote:This is way too good for Portland. You're not going to dump Leonard's contract and acquire Butler for only McCollum. If Philly was willing to part with Fultz and Convington, they'd just cut the other two teams out and take Butler.
I don't really agree with this but, even if I did, one is an expiring and the other is locked into a bargain contract. And frankly, if you believe they're more or less equal, you could just keep Covington out of it and just send Aminu straight from Portland to Minnesota.
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the plan is to get as good as quickly as possible....I fully believe we could have been a borderline playoff team last year by adding young veterans....using or draft picks and cap space.....can I specifically tell you who? no.
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If I'm in the Suns I'd just cut out Philly and Portland and get Butler myself. Not a fan of Fultz and I'd rather keep JJ over him.
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Not of any interest for the Sixers. Among other things, this decimates their perimeter defense and keeps them out of max FA sweepstakes.
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No interest in CJ at all. Good player, but trash defensively and kills our cap space for summer.
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If the Sixers were willing to deal Fultz and Covington and max cap space... they'll just take Butler for themselves.
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the_process wrote:If the Sixers were willing to deal Fultz and Covington and max cap space... they'll just take Butler for themselves.
Exactly. POR is just stealing value in the trade.
That said, I doubt PHI puts Fultz and Covington in a deal anyway. Maybe Covington plus something else, but probably no offer at all.
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shrink wrote:the_process wrote:If the Sixers were willing to deal Fultz and Covington and max cap space... they'll just take Butler for themselves.
Exactly. POR is just stealing value in the trade.
That said, I doubt PHI puts Fultz and Covington in a deal anyway. Maybe Covington plus something else, but probably no offer at all.
Agreed. Word on this side says the Sixers have no interest in Butler. Seems to me Thibs wins out and you guys will just play out the year and see what happens?
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the_process wrote:shrink wrote:the_process wrote:If the Sixers were willing to deal Fultz and Covington and max cap space... they'll just take Butler for themselves.
Exactly. POR is just stealing value in the trade.
That said, I doubt PHI puts Fultz and Covington in a deal anyway. Maybe Covington plus something else, but probably no offer at all.
Agreed. Word on this side says the Sixers have no interest in Butler. Seems to me Thibs wins out and you guys will just play out the year and see what happens?
In MIN, we hear that owner Glen Taylor met with Jimmy, and they agreed that he would keep trying to find a trade for him, and that Jimmy would play his best during games, and show his trade value.
Personally, I could have seen PHI making an offer. Unlike McCollum, Jimmy improves their defense, and gives them a shot at knocking down BOS or TOR. I think Jimmy really wants that fifth year, so he’d be very likely to stay, and he’s better than whoever they can expect to get with cap space. However, if it’s true that Thibs asked for Ben Simmons (and I have reason to doubt it), then I don’t blame PHI for losing Thibs number.
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shrink wrote:the_process wrote:shrink wrote:Exactly. POR is just stealing value in the trade.
That said, I doubt PHI puts Fultz and Covington in a deal anyway. Maybe Covington plus something else, but probably no offer at all.
Agreed. Word on this side says the Sixers have no interest in Butler. Seems to me Thibs wins out and you guys will just play out the year and see what happens?
In MIN, we hear that owner Glen Taylor met with Jimmy, and they agreed that he would keep trying to find a trade for him, and that Jimmy would play his best during games, and show his trade value.
Personally, I could have seen PHI making an offer. Unlike McCollum, Jimmy improves their defense, and gives them a shot at knocking down BOS or TOR. I think Jimmy really wants that fifth year, so he’d be very likely to stay, and he’s better than whoever they can expect to get with cap space. However, if it’s true that Thibs asked for Ben Simmons (and I have reason to doubt it), then I don’t blame PHI for losing Thibs number.
Maybe - but that offer would only be for a rental (imo) Jimmy Butler, not an offer befitting a franchise building block. I'd have major questions about his willingness to do that at the end of the year. His personality next to Embiid......yeesh.
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Portland does this if they are confident they can get Butler to re-sign.
This is key to me.
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Myth wrote:Village Idiot wrote:
Portland does this if they are confident they can get Butler to re-sign.
This is key to me.
This is also highly improbable.
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Soulyss wrote:Myth wrote:Village Idiot wrote:
Portland does this if they are confident they can get Butler to re-sign.
This is key to me.
This is also highly improbable.
Agreed. And without reason to believe that he is expected to re-sign, I would rather not make the trade.
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