T&T board top 25 trade value - Vote for #11!

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T&T board top 25 trade value - Vote for #11! 

Post#1 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Dec 1, 2018 4:22 pm

1. Giannis Antetokounmpo (3 years, 77.5 million)
2. Lebron James (3 years, 112.3 million + 41 million player option 4th year)
3. Stephen Curry (4 years, 157.5 million)
4. Anthony Davis (2 years, 52.5 million + 28.7 million player option 3rd year)
5. Joel Embiid (5 years, 147.7 million)
6. James Harden (4 years, 153.7 million + 47.3 million player option 5th year)
7. Luka Doncic (2 years, 14.2 million rookie contract + 8.0 million team option 3rd year + 10.1 million team option 4th year)
8. Ben Simmons (2 years, 14.5 million rookie contract)'
9. Karl Anthony-Towns (7.8 million 1st year, + 5 year, 157.8 million extension starting next year)
10. Nikola Jokic (5 years, 142.7 million)

Please vote among these nominees for who has the #10 trade value and nominate a new player to replace them. Consider all factors including play, age, health, personality, contract status, etc.

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Victor Oladipo (3 years, 63 million)

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Deandre Ayton (2 years, 17.8 million rookie contract + 10.0 million team option 3rd year + 12.6 million team option 4th year)

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Kevin Durant (1 year, 30 million + 31.5 million player option 2nd year)

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Jayson Tatum (2 years, 14.5 million rookie contract + 9.9 million 3rd year team option)

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Damian Lillard (3 years, 89.4 million)

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Russell Westbrook (4 years, 159.7 million + 47.1 million 5th year player option)

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Jaren Jackson, Jr. (2 years, 12.8 million rookie contract + 7.3 million 3rd year team option + 9.2 million 4th year team option)

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De'Aaron Fox (2 years, 11.9 million rookie contract + 8.1 million 3rd year team option)

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Donovan Mitchell (2 years, 6.7 million + 5.2 million 3rd year team option)

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Josh Richardson (3 years, 30.4 million + 11.6 million 4th year team option)
1. Using a team's play in games their star is injured should send you to SSS jail
2. ORTG/DRTG ranks are connected in back and forth play and energy expenditure
3. RAPM/RPM is proven measuring regular season value, but not postseason
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Post#2 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Dec 1, 2018 4:23 pm

Vote Oladipo

Elite wing in his prime, decent price. The knee injury is just soreness. I think Warriors consider KD for Oladipo more than the other way around

Nominate Kawhi
1. Using a team's play in games their star is injured should send you to SSS jail
2. ORTG/DRTG ranks are connected in back and forth play and energy expenditure
3. RAPM/RPM is proven measuring regular season value, but not postseason
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Post#3 » by alessandrux » Sat Dec 1, 2018 5:27 pm

Vote: Richardson
Nominate: Siakam (2 years, $3.9 millions, subsequently a restricted free agent)

Edit: By the way some of your team options/player options are mixed up.
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Post#4 » by Fitz303 » Sat Dec 1, 2018 5:38 pm

Vote: Lillard
Nominate: Kawhi
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Post#5 » by daoneandonly » Sat Dec 1, 2018 5:41 pm

V: Dipo
N: Beal
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Post#6 » by Dat2U » Sat Dec 1, 2018 5:58 pm

V: Lilliard
N: Beal
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Post#7 » by Prez » Sat Dec 1, 2018 6:04 pm

Vote Mitchell
Nominate Siakam
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Post#8 » by Soulyss » Sat Dec 1, 2018 6:19 pm

Vote: Lillard

Nominate: Gobert
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Post#9 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sat Dec 1, 2018 6:41 pm

Richardson does not belong in this conversation.
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Post#10 » by Texas Chuck » Sat Dec 1, 2018 6:45 pm

It's absurd that Durant isn't on the board yet. One of this board's biggest blinds spots is not valuing one season/playoff run by a superstar nearly as much as they should.

One playoff run from Durant is worth a ton. Look at who wins championships. Other than the Spurs after Duncan's prime and the Pistons somehow 3 times, every championship going back essentially forever is won by a team that has one of the top 3 players in the world. You essentially cannot win a title if you do not have one of these guys.

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Post#11 » by dorkestra » Sat Dec 1, 2018 6:53 pm

Vote Lillard
Nominate Jrue Holiday
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Post#12 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Sat Dec 1, 2018 6:59 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:It's absurd that Durant isn't on the board yet. One of this board's biggest blinds spots is not valuing one season/playoff run by a superstar nearly as much as they should.

One playoff run from Durant is worth a ton. Look at who wins championships. Other than the Spurs after Duncan's prime and the Pistons somehow 3 times, every championship going back essentially forever is won by a team that has one of the top 3 players in the world. You essentially cannot win a title if you do not have one of these guys.

They are invaluable.


Yep I've been beating this drum for a few spots now. I don't care what team you are, you trade Josh Richardson for KD every time.

Vote KD

Nom PG
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Post#13 » by VCfor3 » Sat Dec 1, 2018 8:40 pm

Vote JJJ
Nominate PG
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Post#14 » by GeorgeMarcus » Sat Dec 1, 2018 8:49 pm

Vote Lillard
Nominate Bob Covington
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Post#15 » by Soulyss » Sat Dec 1, 2018 10:11 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:It's absurd that Durant isn't on the board yet. One of this board's biggest blinds spots is not valuing one season/playoff run by a superstar nearly as much as they should.

One playoff run from Durant is worth a ton. Look at who wins championships. Other than the Spurs after Duncan's prime and the Pistons somehow 3 times, every championship going back essentially forever is won by a team that has one of the top 3 players in the world. You essentially cannot win a title if you do not have one of these guys.

They are invaluable.


Durant and Kawhi both have a single year left on their contract... Given their... unique personalities... I think that is why they aren't on the list yet. That is why they aren't for me anyhow.
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Post#16 » by Woody Allen » Sat Dec 1, 2018 11:50 pm

Vote: JJJ
Nom: Paul George

I am surprised by all the Lillard votes. I thought it would have been a showdown between JJJ and Ayton given their actual star potential. Lillard is good and all and he'll shoot a ton and most nights he'll score a ton, but that's not a winning formula.
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Post#17 » by Ascrilas » Sun Dec 2, 2018 12:47 am

Vote: Lillard
Nominate: Leonard
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Post#18 » by bigmean » Sun Dec 2, 2018 1:23 am

Vote donovan mitchell
Nominate domantas sabonis
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Post#19 » by Dr Positivity » Sun Dec 2, 2018 1:52 am

Wow lots of support for Lillard. I can see it I guess considering the other candidates are flawed
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Post#20 » by babyjax13 » Sun Dec 2, 2018 3:55 am

Victor Oladipo
n: Rudy Gobert

Lillard, Oladipo, and Westrbrook are the best players of the group. Oladipo is the youngest and is underpaid for his production. Westbrook is the best, but has a massive contract that runs until he is 35. Lillard is in the middle. Right contract, but a bit older than Dipo.

Per the nomination, Rudy is getting overlooked because of Utah's slow start. But, the rule changes have helped him offensively. He's averaging 15/13 on 70% shooting. Blocks are down a bit and it is harder to slow players down who are rushing to the rim which makes it more difficult for him to assert himself defensively, but he's still the best interior defender in the game (followed closely by Marc Gasol). His block rate has been increasing, though, and he's averaging 2/per game again. Only 26, and on a good contract. I think he should be in the conversation for every spot on this list starting now.
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