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I assume the Wizards would have to eat Batum's deal to get them both.

Rather give up future firsts as the Hornets are in win-now mode

I would consider Monk + Miles if Washington ate Batum and Cody Zeller or Biyombo and gave us Otto Porter as well but I doubt they do that

i wouldn't do less if I'm WAS.

Charlotte should strongly consider it.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:i wouldn't do less if I'm WAS.

Charlotte should strongly consider it.

I wouldn't even consider it. Monk has shown absolutely nothing. So you're looking at Miles Bridges as the only real asset in exchange for your best asset while eating Batum to boot.

I’d trade that for Beal if I’m Charlotte but I wouldn’t take on Batum as Washington

Beal definitely asked for a trade.


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amcoolio wrote:Rather give up future firsts as the Hornets are in win-now mode

I would consider Monk + Miles if Washington ate Batum and Cody Zeller or Biyombo and gave us Otto Porter as well but I doubt they do that

If you are trying to win now, your picks aren't valuable, sorry. Bridges+Monk+filler(s) sounds about right and Charlotte should do it if it's available.

If that and expiring contracts is all it takes, Charlotte should do it before Grunfeld grows wiser.

Shouldn't be much hesitation there--sure Bridges and Monk are fine prospects but there's little chance they come close to where Beal's at now, and they're also likely to lose trade value each month that goes by. I know some CHA fans will say they believe in one or both guys and don't want to give up on them (esp while they're cheap), but both guys are very very much in the 'maybe good' category and you should always swap a couple of them for a 'definitely very good.'

Slava wrote:If that and expiring contracts is all it takes, Charlotte should do it before Grunfeld grows wiser.

No rush then.

I rather have a dollar in my pocket today than potentially two dollars several years from now.

Easy decision from the Hornets. Especially if it's anyone but Marvin as the filler

If the Wizards give up Beal for this package, their front office is more idiotic than I thought. Monk and Bridges have shown virtually nothing on the court. Monk is an undersized gunner and Bridges can dunk. They are not pieces I'd rebuild my team around...especially for a 25 year old all-star guard.

If that was really their demand, the trade would have been made already. There has to be a couple FRP's and/or taking on a bad contract or two.

Edit to add - same questionable source as before regarding Charlotte/Washington.

If your CHA you dont hesitate at that offer. There has to be more WAS wants. Its bradley freaking Beal!

I would not give up both unless they’re taking back Cody or Biz and Batum. I would even through in this year’s 1st.

Teal25 wrote:I would not give up both unless they’re taking back Cody or Biz and Batum. I would even through in this year’s 1st.

I just don't know any way you could realistically expect that. Bridges/Monk is crazy light for a 25-year old All Star.

GutUNC wrote:

Teal25 wrote:I would not give up both unless they’re taking back Cody or Biz and Batum. I would even through in this year’s 1st.

I just don't know any way you could realistically expect that. Bridges/Monk is crazy light for a 25-year old All Star.

First being an All Star guard in the east isn’t impressive.

If that’s Washington’s final offer for us then I wouldn’t care if the front office eventually pulled the trigger. I don’t think Ernie’s stupid enough to trade Beal for Batum without a Billy King type Trade. I’m happy they didn’t immediately do this though. Lakers aren’t going to trade Ball/Ingram, Magic aren’t trading 2 of Gordon/Bamba/Issacs , Bucks aren’t trading Middleton/Brogdon/ Portland isn't doing a CJ swap/ Nuggets aren’t doing a Harris swap and Toronto isn’t doing OG/Siakam right now. It’s best to wait it out before we give up 2 of our few assets.

Teal25 wrote:

GutUNC wrote:

Teal25 wrote:I would not give up both unless they’re taking back Cody or Biz and Batum. I would even through in this year’s 1st.

I just don't know any way you could realistically expect that. Bridges/Monk is crazy light for a 25-year old All Star.

First being an All Star guard in the east isn’t impressive.

If that’s Washington’s final offer for us then I wouldn’t care if the front office eventually pulled the trigger. I don’t think Ernie’s stupid enough to trade Beal for Batum without a Billy King type Trade. I’m happy they didn’t immediately do this though. Lakers aren’t going to trade Ball/Ingram, Magic aren’t trading 2 of Gordon/Bamba/Issacs , Bucks aren’t trading Middleton/Brogdon/ Portland isn't doing a CJ swap/ Nuggets aren’t doing a Harris swap and Toronto isn’t doing OG/Siakam right now. It’s best to wait it out before we give up 2 of our few assets.

Ball, Ingram, Gordon, Bamba, Isaac, Middleton, McCollum, Harris, Anunoby, Siakam.....which one of those guys do you think Monk is in the same galaxy as value-wise? And Bridges is only in the same class as a few of those guys.

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I assume the Wizards would have to eat Batum's deal to get them both.

Any reason to believe this guy? Seems like the type of source that more often than not gets things entirely wrong.