[ lal | hou | phx ] CP3 to LAL

[getrichordie]

With the new rumors that Lakers are looking for a third team for Ariza, and when you factor in that they could miss out on key free agents this offseason, here’s the basic framework. Some of the money between Stephenson/Beasley could be shifted around to exchange some picks/end of bench guys but I’m trying to look at main components of trade.

...

suns in: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + mcw ($1.5M) + SRP (via HOU)

suns out: ariza ($15M) + bender ($4.7M)

—

lakers in: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

lakers out: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + kcp ($12M) + beasley ($3.5M)

—

rockets in: kcp ($12M) + ariza ($15M) + beasley ($3.5M) + bender ($4.7M)

rockets out: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

...

Suns save a little money, get a stop-gap point, get a SRP, and kick tires on MCW (because why not).

Lakers move in to get Paul with free agency looking bleak.

Rockets gain more flexibility (expirings) and wing depth this year that would fit in with Harden and D’Antoni’s offensive system. Have option to flip KCP and/or Ariza + pick(s) for RFAs who will command too much money than respective team might be willing to pay (Middleton, etc.).

P.S. Would PHX consider taking Lonzo and Ingram for Booker?

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[JohnPferdelack]

CP3 is now too old...

[getrichordie]

CP3 is now too old...

He’s younger than LeBron and he’s still effective. And he’s a big name which is why LAL will bring him in on top of them worried about missing out in free agency.


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[kobe_vs_jordan]

I Think Lakers are better off spending in FA b list players. FA class is deep and top heavy. This the offseason to swing and miss in.

[Kobe System]

With the new rumors that Lakers are looking for a third team for Ariza, and when you factor in that they could miss out on key free agents this offseason, here’s the basic framework. Some of the money between Stephenson/Beasley could be shifted around to exchange some picks/end of bench guys but I’m trying to look at main components of trade.

...

suns in: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + mcw ($1.5M) + SRP (via HOU)

suns out: ariza ($15M) + bender ($4.7M)

—

lakers in: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

lakers out: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + kcp ($12M) + beasley ($3.5M)

—

rockets in: kcp ($12M) + ariza ($15M) + beasley ($3.5M) + bender ($4.7M)

rockets out: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

...

Suns save a little money, get a stop-gap point, get a SRP, and kick tires on MCW (because why not).

Lakers move in to get Paul with free agency looking bleak.

Rockets gain more flexibility (expirings) and wing depth this year that would fit in with Harden and D’Antoni’s offensive system. Have option to flip KCP and/or Ariza + pick(s) for RFAs who will command too much money than respective team might be willing to pay (Middleton, etc.).



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How many NOs do you need to stop this nonsense?

[getrichordie]

With the new rumors that Lakers are looking for a third team for Ariza, and when you factor in that they could miss out on key free agents this offseason, here’s the basic framework. Some of the money between Stephenson/Beasley could be shifted around to exchange some picks/end of bench guys but I’m trying to look at main components of trade.

...

suns in: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + mcw ($1.5M) + SRP (via HOU)

suns out: ariza ($15M) + bender ($4.7M)

—

lakers in: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

lakers out: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + kcp ($12M) + beasley ($3.5M)

—

rockets in: kcp ($12M) + ariza ($15M) + beasley ($3.5M) + bender ($4.7M)

rockets out: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

...

Suns save a little money, get a stop-gap point, get a SRP, and kick tires on MCW (because why not).

Lakers move in to get Paul with free agency looking bleak.

Rockets gain more flexibility (expirings) and wing depth this year that would fit in with Harden and D’Antoni’s offensive system. Have option to flip KCP and/or Ariza + pick(s) for RFAs who will command too much money than respective team might be willing to pay (Middleton, etc.).



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How many NOs do you need to stop this nonsense?

35.4 million.

Or I’ll just take 5 good reasons why they shouldn’t do this.




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[kobe_vs_jordan]

With the new rumors that Lakers are looking for a third team for Ariza, and when you factor in that they could miss out on key free agents this offseason, here’s the basic framework. Some of the money between Stephenson/Beasley could be shifted around to exchange some picks/end of bench guys but I’m trying to look at main components of trade.

...

suns in: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + mcw ($1.5M) + SRP (via HOU)

suns out: ariza ($15M) + bender ($4.7M)

—

lakers in: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

lakers out: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + kcp ($12M) + beasley ($3.5M)

—

rockets in: kcp ($12M) + ariza ($15M) + beasley ($3.5M) + bender ($4.7M)

rockets out: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

...

Suns save a little money, get a stop-gap point, get a SRP, and kick tires on MCW (because why not).

Lakers move in to get Paul with free agency looking bleak.

Rockets gain more flexibility (expirings) and wing depth this year that would fit in with Harden and D’Antoni’s offensive system. Have option to flip KCP and/or Ariza + pick(s) for RFAs who will command too much money than respective team might be willing to pay (Middleton, etc.).



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How many NOs do you need to stop this nonsense?

35.4 million.

Or I’ll just take 5 good reasons why they shouldn’t do this.




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You want 5 good reasons and didn't give one good reason? Theres better ways to spend 38 million in cap space.

[Kobe System]

With the new rumors that Lakers are looking for a third team for Ariza, and when you factor in that they could miss out on key free agents this offseason, here’s the basic framework. Some of the money between Stephenson/Beasley could be shifted around to exchange some picks/end of bench guys but I’m trying to look at main components of trade.

...

suns in: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + mcw ($1.5M) + SRP (via HOU)

suns out: ariza ($15M) + bender ($4.7M)

—

lakers in: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

lakers out: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + kcp ($12M) + beasley ($3.5M)

—

rockets in: kcp ($12M) + ariza ($15M) + beasley ($3.5M) + bender ($4.7M)

rockets out: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

...

Suns save a little money, get a stop-gap point, get a SRP, and kick tires on MCW (because why not).

Lakers move in to get Paul with free agency looking bleak.

Rockets gain more flexibility (expirings) and wing depth this year that would fit in with Harden and D’Antoni’s offensive system. Have option to flip KCP and/or Ariza + pick(s) for RFAs who will command too much money than respective team might be willing to pay (Middleton, etc.).



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How many NOs do you need to stop this nonsense?

35.4 million.

Or I’ll just take 5 good reasons why they shouldn’t do this.




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5 reasons?

1. CP3s contract
2. CP3s durability
3. CP3s age
4. CP3 won't put Lakers above GSW
5. Lakers management has common sense

[Dr Aki]

Stop feeding the troll

[getrichordie]

How many NOs do you need to stop this nonsense?

35.4 million.

Or I’ll just take 5 good reasons why they shouldn’t do this.




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5 reasons?

1. CP3s contract
2. CP3s durability
3. CP3s age
4. CP3 won't put Lakers above GSW
5. Lakers management has common sense

What if they were to add in Ingram and Ball for Booker? James Jones is Phoenix’s GM and LeBron’s boy.

What would Lakers need to send to get Booker?

Just saying that Lakers could operate via trade market if needed.


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[getrichordie]

Stop feeding the troll

Wow, man. Thanks for creating such an awesome environment here on RealGM.


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[NoZoLakers]

With the new rumors that Lakers are looking for a third team for Ariza, and when you factor in that they could miss out on key free agents this offseason, here’s the basic framework. Some of the money between Stephenson/Beasley could be shifted around to exchange some picks/end of bench guys but I’m trying to look at main components of trade.

...

suns in: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + mcw ($1.5M) + SRP (via HOU)

suns out: ariza ($15M) + bender ($4.7M)

—

lakers in: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

lakers out: rondo ($9M) + stephenson ($4.4M) + kcp ($12M) + beasley ($3.5M)

—

rockets in: kcp ($12M) + ariza ($15M) + beasley ($3.5M) + bender ($4.7M)

rockets out: paul ($35.4M) + filler (hartenstein/anthony/mcw)

...

Suns save a little money, get a stop-gap point, get a SRP, and kick tires on MCW (because why not).

Lakers move in to get Paul with free agency looking bleak.

Rockets gain more flexibility (expirings) and wing depth this year that would fit in with Harden and D’Antoni’s offensive system. Have option to flip KCP and/or Ariza + pick(s) for RFAs who will command too much money than respective team might be willing to pay (Middleton, etc.).



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How many NOs do you need to stop this nonsense?

35.4 million.

Or I’ll just take 5 good reasons why they shouldn’t do this.




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theres a $120 million dollar reason to say no

[slick_watts]

this trade makes no sense for any of the teams. sun can get more than a 2nd for ariza-- rondo, lance, and mcw do nothing for them. rockets aren't going to give up on their chris paul investment 6% of the way into his contract for players that don't make them better collectively than paul does, and the lakers aren't going to blow their stack on chris paul before the summer even starts.

[getrichordie]

this trade makes no sense for any of the teams. sun can get more than a 2nd for ariza-- rondo, lance, and mcw do nothing for them. rockets aren't going to give up on their chris paul investment 6% of the way into his contract for players that don't make them better collectively than paul does, and the lakers aren't going to blow their stack on chris paul before the summer even starts.

What if you add in 2 of Ingram, Ball, and Kuzma going to PHX for Booker? Does it make more sense then?

Edit: Actually you could expand this trade and add Ingram going to PHX and Booker coming to LAL and the $ matches. Just wonder what the value difference is between Ingram and Booker.

Kuzma + FRP?

Or maybe Ariza + FRP to somebody for a better FRP is the plan and gets a better pick to PHX for doing this.

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[RamonSessions7]

Commitment is the one positive I see in these posts.

[getrichordie]

Commitment is the one positive I see in these posts.

Errr... thanks, I guess?


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[hoosierdaddy34]

Lakers want no part of CP3 or that contract. Find someone else for Morey’s mistake.

[DoItALL9]

The filler going to LA should be Carmelo imo

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[Karmaloop]

Or I’ll just take 5 good reasons why they shouldn’t do this.

I'll give you just one. CP3 isn't worth that extension the Rockets just handed him, and if he were the Rockets wouldn't dare moving him. The Lakers are better off using their cap space on guys like Middleton than taking on CP3 and his albatross of a contract.

[Karmaloop]

this trade makes no sense for any of the teams. sun can get more than a 2nd for ariza-- rondo, lance, and mcw do nothing for them. rockets aren't going to give up on their chris paul investment 6% of the way into his contract for players that don't make them better collectively than paul does, and the lakers aren't going to blow their stack on chris paul before the summer even starts.

How much trade value does Trevor Ariza actually have? He's in the middle of one of his worst seasons as a pro, and he's on a big, expiring contract. At this point, I think there's more value in his contract than his actual play.