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1. Giannis Antetokounmpo (3 years, 77.5 million)
2. Lebron James (3 years, 112.3 million + 41 million player option 4th year)
3. Stephen Curry (4 years, 157.5 million)
4. Anthony Davis (2 years, 52.5 million + 28.7 million player option 3rd year)
5. Joel Embiid (5 years, 147.7 million)
6. James Harden (4 years, 153.7 million + 47.3 million player option 5th year)
7. Luka Doncic (2 years, 14.2 million rookie contract + 8.0 million team option 3rd year + 10.1 million team option 4th year)
8. Ben Simmons (2 years, 14.5 million rookie contract)'
9. Karl Anthony-Towns (7.8 million 1st year, + 5 year, 157.8 million extension starting next year)
10. Nikola Jokic (5 years, 142.7 million)
11. Damian Lillard (3 years, 89.4 million)
12. Victor Oladipo (3 years, 63 million)
13. Kevin Durant (1 year, 30 million + 31.5 million player option 2nd year)
14. Jaren Jackson, Jr. (2 years, 12.8 million rookie contract + 7.3 million 3rd year team option + 9.2 million 4th year team option)
15. Jayson Tatum (2 years, 14.5 million rookie contract + 9.9 million 3rd year team option)
16. Donovan Mitchell (2 years, 6.7 million rookie contract + 5.2 million 3rd year team option)
17. Paul George (3 years, 99.5 million + 37.9 million 4th year player option)
18. Russell Westbrook (4 years, 159.7 million + 47.1 million 5th year player option)
19. Rudy Gobert (3 years, 74.3 million)

Please vote among these nominees for who has the #19 trade value and nominate a new player to replace them. Consider all factors including play, age, health, personality, contract status, etc.



Deandre Ayton (2 years, 17.8 million rookie contract + 10.0 million team option 3rd year + 12.6 million team option 4th year)



De'Aaron Fox (2 years, 11.9 million rookie contract + 8.1 million 3rd year team option)



Josh Richardson (3 years, 30.4 million + 11.6 million 4th year team option)



Kawhi Leonard (1 year, 23.1 million + 21.3 million 2nd year player option)



Pascal Siakam (2 years, 3.9 million rookie contract)



Bradley Beal (3 years, 81.3 million)



Domantas Sabonis (2 year, 6.2 million rookie contract)



Kristaps Porzingis (1 year, 5.7 million rookie contract)



Lauri Markannen (2 years, 9.8 million rookie contact + 6.7 million 3rd year team option)



Devin Booker (3.3 million rookie contract + 5 year, 158 million extension starting next season)

Vote Ayton

Nominate John Collins

Vote Ayton

Nominate Butler

Vote: Pascal Siakam.
Nominate: Wendell Carter Jr.

Vote Fox
Nominate Jrue

Just adding some more thoughts on Jrue. I feel like he's a top 25 player right now. Maybe even top 20. He's locked for 3 years (plus PO) at a below max deal (almost 10M below), how is he not on this list yet?

V Kawhi
N Butler

V Fox
N Jrue

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V Kawhi
N Butler

Vote - Ayton

Nominate - John Collins

Beal
Jrue

Going with Jrue, Kyrie is next, followed by Conley (for me). All are elite point guards. Jrue is incredible on both ends, as is Conley. Kyrie is an incredible player on offense.

Soulyss wrote:Vote - Ayton

Nominate - John Collins

I love Collins, but you would have him over Kyrie and Jrue?

Vote Ayton
Nominate Jrue Holiday

jrue should have more value than Butler due to contract status imo, and hes a year younger. 75ish mil for 3 years is great value, he'll probably decline the 4th year PO

Eskobar13 wrote:Vote Fox
Nominate Jrue

Just adding some more thoughts on Jrue. I feel like he's a top 25 player right now. Maybe even top 20. He's locked for 3 years (plus PO) at a below max deal (almost 10M below), how is he not on this list yet?

Saying he's "almost 10M below max" is inaccurate because as far as I know he did sign very close to his max at the time. That's like saying Doncic makes 30 million less than max. Also, I don't get where the max is discussion is coming from - not every player has to get max and Jrue Holiday is most certainly not one of them. He's a nice complementary player, not a true super star that deserves max as a "go-to" guy like Curry, Harden etc.

Woody Allen wrote:

Eskobar13 wrote:Vote Fox
Nominate Jrue

Just adding some more thoughts on Jrue. I feel like he's a top 25 player right now. Maybe even top 20. He's locked for 3 years (plus PO) at a below max deal (almost 10M below), how is he not on this list yet?

Saying he's "almost 10M below max" is inaccurate because as far as I know he did sign very close to his max at the time. That's like saying Doncic makes 30 million less than max. Also, I don't get where the max is discussion is coming from - not every player has to get max and Jrue Holiday is most certainly not one of them. He's a nice complementary player, not a true super star that deserves max as a "go-to" guy like Curry, Harden etc.

Ok so just dismiss the max thing, let's just say his contract is of great value. PG has already been voted (!!!), is by no means a tier above Jrue right now (he might be better, but not by much) and his contract costs a lot more. Beal's contract runs for the same length, is as expensive and he's not a better player than Jrue right now.

This threads just further proves two things: that even after last year, Jrue is still one of the most underrated players in the league and that defense is severely underrated (or at least forgotten) by almost everyone.

V: Fox
N: Butler

Debated between Fox, Ayton, and Kawhi. I keep flipping back and forth between the three.

V: Kawhi
N: Jrue

V: Kawhi

N: Butler

N: Kawhi. Not sure Kawhi should be this high but I know Ayton shouldn't be.
V: Jrue Holiday

babyjax13 wrote:

Soulyss wrote:Vote - Ayton

Nominate - John Collins

I love Collins, but you would have him over Kyrie and Jrue?

Based on cost, contract, control... Yes. This is trade value, not the best player.

Soulyss wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:

Soulyss wrote:Vote - Ayton

Nominate - John Collins

I love Collins, but you would have him over Kyrie and Jrue?

Based on cost, contract, control... Yes. This is trade value, not the best player.

Fair enough. I think non-rebuilding teams would value Kyrie and Jrue over him pretty easily, though.