T&T board top 25 trade value - Final list

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T&T board top 25 trade value - Final list 

Post#1 » by Dr Positivity » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:53 am

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1. Giannis Antetokounmpo (3 years, 77.5 million)

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2. Lebron James (3 years, 112.3 million + 41 million player option 4th year)

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3. Stephen Curry (4 years, 157.5 million)

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4. Anthony Davis (2 years, 52.5 million + 28.7 million player option 3rd year)

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5. Joel Embiid (5 years, 147.7 million)

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6. James Harden (4 years, 153.7 million + 47.3 million player option 5th year)

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7. Luka Doncic (2 years, 14.2 million rookie contract + 8.0 million team option 3rd year + 10.1 million team option 4th year)

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8. Ben Simmons (2 years, 14.5 million rookie contract)

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9. Karl Anthony-Towns (7.8 million 1st year, + 5 year, 157.8 million extension starting next year)

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10. Nikola Jokic (5 years, 142.7 million)

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11. Damian Lillard (3 years, 89.4 million)

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12. Victor Oladipo (3 years, 63 million)

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13. Kevin Durant (1 year, 30 million + 31.5 million player option 2nd year)

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14. Jaren Jackson, Jr. (2 years, 12.8 million rookie contract + 7.3 million 3rd year team option + 9.2 million 4th year team option)

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15. Jayson Tatum (2 years, 14.5 million rookie contract + 9.9 million 3rd year team option)

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16. Donovan Mitchell (2 years, 6.7 million rookie contract + 5.2 million 3rd year team option)

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17. Paul George (3 years, 99.5 million + 37.9 million 4th year player option)

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18. Russell Westbrook (4 years, 159.7 million + 47.1 million 5th year player option)

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19. Rudy Gobert (3 years, 74.3 million)

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20. Kawhi Leonard (1 year, 23.1 million + 21.3 million 2nd year player option)

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21. De'Aaron Fox (2 years, 11.9 million rookie contract + 8.1 million 3rd year team option)

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22. DeAndre Ayton (2 years, 17.8 million rookie contract + 10.0 million team option 3rd year + 12.6 million team option 4th year)

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23. Bradley Beal (3 years, 81.3 million)

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24. Pascal Siakam (2 years, 3.9 million rookie contract)

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25. Clint Capela (5 years, 87.5 million)

Honorable mentions: Josh Richardson, Domantas Sabonis, Kristaps Porzingis, Lauri Markannen, Devin Booker, Jrue Holiday, Robert Covington, Kyrie Irving, Wendell Carter, Jr.
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Post#2 » by Trader_Joe » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:58 am

Nice job, nice list.
Thanks DrP.!
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Post#3 » by Rockazoids » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:31 am

I'm just stopping by to say in the real world there is noway Pascal has more value than Porzingis even on one leg & being a RFA.
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Post#4 » by bondom34 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:30 am

Just wanted to second TJ in saying thanks for doing this!
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Post#5 » by shrink » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:33 am

Rockazoids wrote:I'm just stopping by to say in the real world there is noway Pascal has more value than Porzingis even on one leg & being a RFA.

I think we all considered him, but if people voted like me, I thought he wouldn’t be worth his deal this year, and his Bird rights are only valuable if the max deal you are forced to give him pays off, and that is a risk right now.
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Post#6 » by Eskobar13 » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:11 pm

Thanks for doing this.

Just a shame people didn't vote for my boy Jrue making this list completely invalid.

But srsly I can't believe we didn't have Porzingis on the list :O
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Post#7 » by HartfordWhalers » Mon Dec 17, 2018 3:44 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:.


Made this a sticky.
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Post#8 » by Woody Allen » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:26 pm

Damian Lillard, Donovan Mitchell too high
DeAndre Ayton too low
Cling Capela shouldn't have made it.
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Post#9 » by Alatan » Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:30 pm

Lol at Kawhis and KDs expiring deals along with WBs albatross having top 25 value. Rofl at Pascal S.
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Post#10 » by brackdan70 » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:30 am

Westbrook and Siakam seem odd to be on here.
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Post#11 » by Prez » Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:39 am

Feels like Fox is too low imo. I'm a fan of Westbrook but there's just no way I'm trading more value for him at 30 years old on a supermax extension than Fox on the 2nd year of a rookie deal. There are multiple other guys above him that I'd give up less value for.
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Post#12 » by Dr Positivity » Wed Dec 19, 2018 5:21 am

I know it's what teams might think and this vote came at the worst time of the season for Jokic, but it's silly seeing Towns still above him on any list. Jokic is by far the better player. I expect the Towns vs Jokic debate to end up looking like when Griffin was peers with Curry/Harden
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Post#13 » by Soulyss » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:03 am

Dr Positivity wrote:I know it's what teams might think and this vote came at the worst time of the season for Jokic, but it's silly seeing Towns still above him on any list. Jokic is by far the better player. I expect the Towns vs Jokic debate to end up looking like when Griffin was peers with Curry/Harden


I think Jokic & Towns is very close... I actually agree with the order because:

- Towns the potential to become a dominate two-way player. I don't expect Jokic to improve much beyond what he currently is (which is pretty darn good) but he is limited defensively.
- One more additional cheap year on his contract for Towns.

But it's very close.
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Post#14 » by pelifan » Sat Dec 22, 2018 4:09 pm

It's not great but I think we can all agree it's better than what Bill Simmons put together
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Post#15 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:24 pm

Bill reads this forum so I thought he may have taken a few more hints from us than he did
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Post#16 » by getrichordie » Thu Dec 27, 2018 7:11 am

Westbrook should be much lower.

George should be higher.

Leonard should be higher.

Mitchell should be lower.

Capela should be a little bit higher.

Agree that Porzingis should be above Siakam.

I’m a little bit shocked that Markannen didn’t make the list. Weird.


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Post#17 » by Laimbeer » Fri Dec 28, 2018 2:03 am

Westbrook might be the only guy who could make this list and a worst contract list.
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Post#18 » by Dr Positivity » Sat Dec 29, 2018 4:22 pm

Gobert has really big shoulders in his ESPN mugshot
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Post#19 » by vxmike » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:46 am

Rockazoids wrote:I'm just stopping by to say in the real world there is noway Pascal has more value than Porzingis even on one leg & being a RFA.


You want Porzingis on a max who is constantly injured even before tearing his ACL?

Good luck with that. It's arguably a BAD contract not a top 25 good contract,
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Post#20 » by iggymcfrack » Wed Jan 9, 2019 3:40 pm

LOL @ Westbrook #18. There’s no way that’s a positive contract, let alone one of the best of the league. He’s already hitting the decline phase of his career and he’s still got 4.5 years to go at over 40 million per.

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