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Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 8:55 am
by Domejandro
Would be completed on January 11th.
CHI: Gorgui Dieng, Jerryd Bayless, and Minnesota's 2019 First Round Draft Pick*
OUT: Robin Lopez, Cristiano Felício, and Detroit's 2022 Second Round Draft Pick
Why for Chicago? Gain a First Round Draft Pick at the cost of taking on Gorgui Dieng's seven million dollars per year (comparative to Cristiano Felício's salary). Gorgui Dieng would effectively eat up Robin Lopez's minutes, making his salary active, compared to Cristino's dead salary. Gorgui also plays oddly well with Zach LaVine in Pick-and-Roll Action, but I am not educated enough on the current Bulls' offense to know if that little factoid would even be interesting or not.
MIN: Robin Lopez and Zach Randolph
OUT: Gorgui Dieng, Jerryd Bayless, Minnesota's 2019 First Round Draft Pick*, and Minnesota's 2022 Second Round Draft Pick**
Why for Minnesota? Completely eliminate Gorgui Dieng's salary over the next three years at the cost of a First Round Draft Pick and Second Round Draft Pick, without completely losing Gorgui's productivity on the court. Pretty self-explanatory.
SAC: Cristiano Felício, Detroit's 2022 Second Round Draft Pick, and Minnesota's 2022 Second Round Draft Pick**
OUT: Zach Randolph
Why for Sacramento? Open up just over three million dollars of cap-space this year for substantially more flexibility in follow up trades (would put them at fourteen million dollars of open space), while being compensated with two solid Second Round Draft Picks for taking on Cristiano Felício's two extra years of dead salary.
*Lottery Protected through 2023, if never conveying becomes two Second Round Draft Picks in 2023 and 2024.
**Sacramento would receive the best Second Round Draft Pick between Denver, Philadelphia, and Minnesota.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 12:32 pm
by Eskobar13
Value seems right but with a new coach incoming wouldn't the Wolves leave their options open for a little longer? I feel like they should be finding minutes for Tyus before doing anything else, no?
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 1:17 pm
by shagadelic45
i think mn should use that #1 to trade wiggins
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 1:48 pm
by spidythejoe
Sacramento has, I think, six 2nd round picks in the next two years already. Unless there is a plan to turn that 14 million into something big, I don't think it is enough incentive to take on the absurd extra years of Felicio
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 2:12 pm
by Resistance
Domejandro wrote:Would be completed on January 11th.
CHI: Gorgui Dieng, Jerryd Bayless, and Minnesota's 2019 First Round Draft Pick*
OUT: Robin Lopez, Cristiano Felício, and Detroit's 2022 Second Round Draft Pick
Why for Chicago? Gain a First Round Draft Pick at the cost of taking on Gorgui Dieng's seven million dollars per year (comparative to Cristiano Felício's salary). Gorgui Dieng would effectively eat up Robin Lopez's minutes, making his salary active, compared to Cristino's dead salary. Gorgui also plays oddly well with Zach LaVine in Pick-and-Roll Action, but I am not educated enough on the current Bulls' offense to know if that little factoid would even be interesting or not.
MIN: Robin Lopez and Zach Randolph
OUT: Gorgui Dieng, Jerryd Bayless, Minnesota's 2019 First Round Draft Pick*, and Minnesota's 2022 Second Round Draft Pick**
Why for Minnesota? Completely eliminate Gorgui Dieng's salary over the next three years at the cost of a First Round Draft Pick and Second Round Draft Pick, without completely losing Gorgui's productivity on the court. Pretty self-explanatory.
SAC: Cristiano Felício, Detroit's 2022 Second Round Draft Pick, and Minnesota's 2022 Second Round Draft Pick**
OUT: Zach Randolph
Why for Sacramento? Open up just over three million dollars of cap-space this year for substantially more flexibility in follow up trades (would put them at fourteen million dollars of open space), while being compensated with two solid Second Round Draft Picks for taking on Cristiano Felício's two extra years of dead salary.
*Lottery Protected through 2023, if never conveying becomes two Second Round Draft Picks in 2023 and 2024.
**Sacramento would receive the best Second Round Draft Pick between Denver, Philadelphia, and Minnesota.
Until Sacramento has as an actual use for additional cap space this season, I don't think that they should do a trade for more cap space.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 6:37 pm
by lakerhater
Sac says no. If you want them to take on future salary obligations it’s going to cost a 1st round pick or a quality young prospect.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 6:40 pm
by kobe_vs_jordan
I don't see Chicago taking on Dieng for a couple of seconds. Already have Wendell Carter in the fold. Reduce the protections on the pick and I think the deal is feasible.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 6:45 pm
by wolves_89
For the Wolves I think I'd rather wait and see how things play out the rest of the season. With a new coach and hopefully some significant modifications to modernize the offensive/defensive schemes I'd hold off giving up a 1st to move Dieng. If anything I'd be looking to move Gibson since he's an expiring with value and is unlikely to be re-signed.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 7:06 pm
by rpa
I don't see the Kings taking on that much money for 2nd rounders that are so far out.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 7:33 pm
by aramada
Chicago says yes. Since this is probably not very appealing for SAC, I would say we make it:
Lopez, Felicio, second for Dieng, Bayless, protected first
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 9:01 pm
by kb02
Easy no for the Kings.
Kings send out a second + Zbo for Felcio and a protected first? Yes. Basically $4M in salary + a second.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 10:18 pm
by becorz
I have thought that something with WCS going to Chicago for Lopez, but I think that more would have to be going to the Kings in the deal. I just couldn't figure out anything that worked, unless there was some scenario with Felicio and a Bulls first, but i just don't see that happening.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Tue Jan 8, 2019 10:48 pm
by shrink
I appreciate it when a poster puts this much thought into a trade. Nice work, Domejandro.
My personal opinion is that with Thibs gone, MIN may be willing to trade Taj Gibson at the deadline. This may give Gorgui a chance to rehab his value a bit, as he can play third big with Saric or with Towns. We can worry about clearing cap space for 21-22 later. If Gorgui succeeds, it costs less to move him, but if he fails, his contract is shorter and he may cost less to move him too.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2019 12:49 am
by The Beam King
lakerhater wrote:Sac says no. If you want them to take on future salary obligations it’s going to cost a 1st round pick or a quality young prospect.
This.
Re: Chicago / Sacramento / Minnesota
Posted: Wed Jan 9, 2019 12:59 am
by LightTheBeam
Ya I don't think Sac would want anymore 2nd round picks at the cost of future salary.
Either we are looking for a SF upgrade, or we would want a 1st round pick.