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Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2019 11:40 pm
by NYG
Using only rookie contracts as of this off-season (meaning you can include 2019 draft picks, but NOT 2019 free agents), rank the top 10 trade values of players in that criteria?

Re: Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:07 am
by babyjax13
1) Luka
2) Zion
3) Simmons
4) Mitchell
5) Tatum
6) Fox
7) Young
8) Ayton
9) Collins
10) Markkenen

Re: Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:15 am
by BullyKing
1. Luka
2. Simmons
3. Zion
4. Fox
5. Tatum
6. Mitchell
7. Ayton
8. JJJ
9. Sabonis
10. Markkanen

Re: Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 12:18 am
by NYG
1. Luka Doncic
2. Zion Williamson
3. Donovan Mitchell
4. Jayson Tatum
5. Ben Simmons
6. Trae Young
7. De’Aaron Fox
8. DeAndre Ayton
9. Lauri Markkanen
10. Jamal Murray

Re: Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 10:45 pm
by Mr Swagtastic
No Pascal Siakam, I think he's a top ten rookie scale player. Yes it's only one more year but still the guy to me is better than Collins, Lauri and Sabonis

Re: Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2019 11:49 pm
by babyjax13
Mr Swagtastic wrote:No Pascal Siakam, I think he's a top ten rookie scale player. Yes it's only one more year but still the guy to me is better than Collins, Lauri and Sabonis


Collins (21): 20p/10r/2a/.3b/.5s --- 57/36/76 shooting, 63.6%TS --- 22.5PER, 3 OBPM, -1.6 DBPM, 1.3 VORP
Siakim (24, almost 25): 16p/7r/3a/1b/1s --- 54/35/77 shooting, 61.8%TS --- 18.4PER, 1.8 OBPM, 1.6 DBPM, 3.0 VORP

Collins has two years on a rookie scale salary, Siakim has one. Collins DBPM was positive last year and he averaged way more blocks ... but, similarly impactful, impact stats favor Siakim but Collins is a) younger, b) has another year of rookie scale. I'd take the guy that still is not likely in his prime (usually between ages 26-31, in my mind) to the guy about to enter it ... and also the one that has more cost control and a higher ceiling.

Re: Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:40 pm
by Mr Swagtastic
babyjax13 wrote:
Mr Swagtastic wrote:No Pascal Siakam, I think he's a top ten rookie scale player. Yes it's only one more year but still the guy to me is better than Collins, Lauri and Sabonis


Collins (21): 20p/10r/2a/.3b/.5s --- 57/36/76 shooting, 63.6%TS --- 22.5PER, 3 OBPM, -1.6 DBPM, 1.3 VORP
Siakim (24, almost 25): 16p/7r/3a/1b/1s --- 54/35/77 shooting, 61.8%TS --- 18.4PER, 1.8 OBPM, 1.6 DBPM, 3.0 VORP

Collins has two years on a rookie scale salary, Siakim has one. Collins DBPM was positive last year and he averaged way more blocks ... but, similarly impactful, impact stats favor Siakim but Collins is a) younger, b) has another year of rookie scale. I'd take the guy that still is not likely in his prime (usually between ages 26-31, in my mind) to the guy about to enter it ... and also the one that has more cost control and a higher ceiling.
Siakam is the much better defender, he can guard every position in the floor. Run an offense and is much, much quicker. I get why people would pick Collins but for me Pascal is the better pick

Re: Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:08 pm
by DerrickNoah
The topic says “trade value”, therefore I don’t think Ayton should be on this list. I see a good starter, but he lacks superstar potential IMO. Plus, as a #1 overall pick with poor defense, he is honestly paid pretty fairly over the next 3 years (over 32M)
$9,562,920 / $10,018,200 / $12,632,950

Re: Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2019 10:41 pm
by Magic_Johnny12
1) Luka
2) Zion
3) Simmons
4) Mitchell
5) Fox
6) Tatum
7) JJJ
8) Siakim
9) Murray
10) Isaac

Re: Top 10 Trade Value: Rookie Contracts

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:15 am
by DerrickNoah
1) Zion
2) Luka
3) Ben Simmons
4) Donovan Mitchell
5) DeAaron Fox
6) Jayson Tatum
7) Lauri Markanen
8) Jaren Jackson jr
9) Trey Young
10) Pascal Siakim