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I'm just interested in seeing what other teams fans think. I know what is perceived value is, but that isn't always what youll get. If Celtics don't make the AD trade, I still think they have to consolidate talent, and JB would probably get traded before JT/Hayward and we just signed Smart to a fair deal.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a move like JB+LAC pick for Lou Williams and a future pick. Assuming Clips strike out on FA
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Sabonis is probably my easy pick.
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Mamba4Goat wrote:Sabonis is probably my easy pick.
Boston needs to add value to that, and it might be quite a bit. Which they can do with all their picks
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:Sabonis is probably my easy pick.
Boston needs to add value to that, and it might be quite a bit. Which they can do with all their picks
Yeah at this point Sabonis likely has more trade value... I would argue Brown has more upside. I don’t think the value difference is multiple picks though. Maybe Brown and 22 but that feels like a bad trade for the Cs.
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shi-woo wrote:I'm just interested in seeing what other teams fans think. I know what is perceived value is, but that isn't always what youll get. If Celtics don't make the AD trade, I still think they have to consolidate talent, and JB would probably get traded before JT/Hayward and we just signed Smart to a fair deal.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a move like JB+LAC pick for Lou Williams and a future pick. Assuming Clips strike out on FA
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The draft will be before free agency, so the Clippers would need to really like who Boston drafted in June to trade for him in mid July.
Since the pick owed to Boston was an annoyance/inconvenience to the Clippers, they could be very reluctant to push a pick obligation into the future unless there is enough protection that they would feel comfortable with doing the trade. If there is enough protection to make the Clippers willing to do it, then it could be more than what Ainge would feel comfortable with.
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If Irving leaves how about DSJ for Brown? You get an exciting PG, Knicks get a much needed defensive wing.
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If Irving leaves how about Conley for Brown + Hayward?
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TBri1974 wrote:If Irving leaves how about DSJ for Brown? You get an exciting PG, Knicks get a much needed defensive wing.
I still see Brown as having quite a bit more value than DSJ at this point. The whole being sent away from the team by Dallas thing really hurts DSJ's value, too, I would imagine, as Carlisle is pretty well respected around the league.
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brackdan70 wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:Sabonis is probably my easy pick.
Boston needs to add value to that, and it might be quite a bit. Which they can do with all their picks
Yeah at this point Sabonis likely has more trade value... I would argue Brown has more upside. I don’t think the value difference is multiple picks though. Maybe Brown and 22 but that feels like a bad trade for the Cs.
I'd agree that there isn't a huge gap in value. Both have one cheap year left and both have holes in their game despite being great prospects still. I think the reason we'd need more than a mid to late first is we'd be very hesitant to hand Boston their potential starting center for years to come who would also likely fit in very well under Stevens.
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pacers33granger wrote:brackdan70 wrote:Chicago-Bull-E wrote:
Boston needs to add value to that, and it might be quite a bit. Which they can do with all their picks
Yeah at this point Sabonis likely has more trade value... I would argue Brown has more upside. I don’t think the value difference is multiple picks though. Maybe Brown and 22 but that feels like a bad trade for the Cs.
I'd agree that there isn't a huge gap in value. Both have one cheap year left and both have holes in their game despite being great prospects still. I think the reason we'd need more than a mid to late first is we'd be very hesitant to hand Boston their potential starting center for years to come who would also likely fit in very well under Stevens.
I have the value difference as large, I think Brown is living a bit off his Boston hype and really didn’t have a good year.
VORP
DS: 2.6
JB: 0.0
RPM
DS: 1.52
JB: -1.07
PER
DS: 21
JB: 13
Those are massive gaps in advanced stats.
I think the Sacramento pick narrows the game and works for both sides. JMO
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shi-woo wrote:I'm just interested in seeing what other teams fans think. I know what is perceived value is, but that isn't always what youll get. If Celtics don't make the AD trade, I still think they have to consolidate talent, and JB would probably get traded before JT/Hayward and we just signed Smart to a fair deal.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a move like JB+LAC pick for Lou Williams and a future pick. Assuming Clips strike out on FA
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What would be the protection on the future pick from the Clippers?
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:I have the value difference as large, I think Brown is living a bit off his Boston hype and really didn’t have a good year.
I've been personally high on Brown for awhile, so I oddly might be biased. I think there's something to be said for the position he was put in this year with Hayward coming back whereas Domas was admittedly put in a position to succeed this year. Comparatively, Domas looked pretty bad when he was used as a stretch 4.
I think bottom line is that, while the swap makes a lot of sense (with a degree of sweetener added), it's a tough one to make for either team being conference rivals.
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Not to derail the thread, but I would have been okay with Brown plus for Leonard last off-season. I think it's sort of amazing how far he's fallen in the eyes of this site. With one year left, I'd consider swapping him out for Lonnie Walker, but 19, 49 and Beli would probably be my offer. I still believe in him, but Boston has held onto him for too long if their plan has been to flip him.
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Resistance wrote:shi-woo wrote:I'm just interested in seeing what other teams fans think. I know what is perceived value is, but that isn't always what youll get. If Celtics don't make the AD trade, I still think they have to consolidate talent, and JB would probably get traded before JT/Hayward and we just signed Smart to a fair deal.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a move like JB+LAC pick for Lou Williams and a future pick. Assuming Clips strike out on FA
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What would be the protection on the future pick from the Clippers?
I am assuming it’s this years 20th pick that the Cs own from the clippers.
I would not do that deal from a Boston Perspective and I assume Ainge wouldn’t either. But IDK. It is interesting. With Smart on the team perhaps the Cs could mesh well with an offense only guy like Williams. I may be wearing the green colored glasses but I still like Brown’s likely effect on winning in the next couple years more than I do Williams.
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Chicago-Bull-E wrote:pacers33granger wrote:brackdan70 wrote:Yeah at this point Sabonis likely has more trade value... I would argue Brown has more upside. I don’t think the value difference is multiple picks though. Maybe Brown and 22 but that feels like a bad trade for the Cs.
I'd agree that there isn't a huge gap in value. Both have one cheap year left and both have holes in their game despite being great prospects still. I think the reason we'd need more than a mid to late first is we'd be very hesitant to hand Boston their potential starting center for years to come who would also likely fit in very well under Stevens.
I have the value difference as large, I think Brown is living a bit off his Boston hype and really didn’t have a good year.
VORP
DS: 2.6
JB: 0.0
RPM
DS: 1.52
JB: -1.07
PER
DS: 21
JB: 13
Those are massive gaps in advanced stats.
I think the Sacramento pick narrows the game and works for both sides. JMO
Argument for Brown is that his ideal role is also filled by Tatum and Hayward so in another situation he likely looks better.
I'd be willing to take that risk on the Spurs, but I'd definitely want Sabonis more
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Chinook wrote:Not to derail the thread, but I would have been okay with Brown plus for Leonard last off-season. I think it's sort of amazing how far he's fallen in the eyes of this site. With one year left, I'd consider swapping him out for Lonnie Walker, but 19, 49 and Beli would probably be my offer. I still believe in him, but Boston has held onto him for too long if their plan has been to flip him.
Wouldn't give up Lonnie....
Forbes + 19 + 29 I'd be ok with though. I really want to see a half a year with White/Dejounte/Lonnie before considering sacrificing 1... and if things go well I'd be looking to trade Derozan 1st.
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Chinook wrote:Not to derail the thread, but I would have been okay with Brown plus for Leonard last off-season. I think it's sort of amazing how far he's fallen in the eyes of this site. With one year left, I'd consider swapping him out for Lonnie Walker, but 19, 49 and Beli would probably be my offer. I still believe in him, but Boston has held onto him for too long if their plan has been to flip him.
I can’t see Ainge selling him off for anything like that. It is interesting to see how his value according to this forum has fallen. Take out the first 1/4 of the season and Brown has been as good or better than last season. (I better go check the numbers on that lol, but that’s my anecdotal impression)
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brackdan70 wrote:Resistance wrote:shi-woo wrote:I'm just interested in seeing what other teams fans think. I know what is perceived value is, but that isn't always what youll get. If Celtics don't make the AD trade, I still think they have to consolidate talent, and JB would probably get traded before JT/Hayward and we just signed Smart to a fair deal.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a move like JB+LAC pick for Lou Williams and a future pick. Assuming Clips strike out on FA
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What would be the protection on the future pick from the Clippers?
I am assuming it’s this years 20th pick that the Cs own from the clippers.
I would not do that deal from a Boston Perspective and I assume Ainge wouldn’t either. But IDK. It is interesting. With Smart on the team perhaps the Cs could mesh well with an offense only guy like Williams. I may be wearing the green colored glasses but I still like Brown’s likely effect on winning in the next couple years more than I do Williams.
I wouldn't be surprised to see a move like JB+LAC pick for Lou Williams and 'a future pick. Assuming Clips strike out on FA
My interpretation of the above is that the 2019 LAC first (#20) would be returned to the Clippers and the Clippers would owe a future first to Boston. If my interpretation is correct, then clarity on the future pick owed to Boston is being sought.
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Can Brown play SF? Hard pressed to see the clippers giving away Lou for anyone
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Mo Bamba and a 2rp
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