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I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#1 » by loserX » Wed May 29, 2019 5:14 am

We've had some success and interest in these threads in the past, so figured we'd revive them for this year's lottery teams to start!

How would you handle the Sacramento Kings' offseason?

Front office changes, June draft, July free agency, and trades throughout...it's all on the table!

Current salary:
Harrison Barnes.....25,102,512 (PO)
Bogdan Bojdanovic...8,529,386
Marvin Bagley.........8,556,120.....8,963,640 (TO)...11,312,114 (TO)
Nemanja Bjelica.....6,825,000.....7,150,000(ung)
De'Aaron Fox.........6,392,760
Buddy Hield..........4,861,208
Yogi Ferrell...........3,150,000 (ung)
Harry Giles...........2,578,800.....3,976,510 (TO)
Caleb Swanigan......2,033,160.....3,665,787(TO)
Frank Mason.........1,618,520 (ung)
Matt Barnes..........2,133,541*

*Barnes' salary is "dead money"; it counts against the cap but cannot be traded or otherwise removed.

Free agents: Alec Burks, Kosta Koufos, Willie Cauley-Stein

Total of above: $71,781,007
2019 projected cap: $109,000,000

That leaves the Kings with a little over $37M in cap room.

Draft
They have no first rounder in 2019, but they do have three second rounders: #40, #47 and #60.

They have all their own future picks, and several incoming 2nds in 2020 and 2021.

Some possible questions to consider:
1) Kings Size: Bagley had some great bursts and Bjelica has some range at the 4, but their centre rotation is a question mark with two incumbents hitting free agency. Reports have them interested in Nikola Vucevic, but how big a commitment are they ready to make right now? Do they have a Plan B? And what is Giles' role on a team that clearly wants to make the playoffs in 2020?
2) Barnes-storming: Harrison Barnes has a player option; he did a decent job after joining the team, and now gets to be reunited with Luke Walton. Should the Kings talk to him about opting out and getting ink on a long-term deal? Or ride out the season and see what happens?
3) Cap in hand: the Kings have a lot of room no matter what happens with Barnes, but there are some other big buyers in the market this year. Who should the Kings pursue hard? Should they save some space for trades later in the season?

The Kings made a pretty big leap last season, and would love to keep it going. How would you make it happen?
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#2 » by giberish » Wed May 29, 2019 5:59 am

I see the Kings starting with 7 guys in place for a 2-deep rotation:

Fox/--
Hield/Bogdan
Barnes/--
Bagley/Bjelica
--/Giles

Given their cap space it's tempting to at least consider adding a SF better then Barnes but I don't see Kwahi or Durant signing there and I don't really like a 4 year full max offer to Middleton or Butler (and they may not sign there either). That really leaves center for a big money deal (backup pg shouldn't be that costly even for an upgrade on Yogi). For centers, ideally you find a mobile athletic shot blocker/rebounder who's also a 3-point threat to spread the floor for Bagley. Since that guy doesn't exist the real options tend to be either shooters (Vuc, Brook) or defenders (Favors, Adams - not a FA but I'd expect OKC to consider moving for salary relief). I'd lead towards shooting.

For these teams assume the 3rd string are Swanigan, rookies (no idea who to take in the 40's, and vet min guys.

Unrealistic best-case scenario plan:


Barnes opts out. Sign Kwahi full 30% max. Sign Brook Lopez, 3/$50, declining. trade #60 for Mo Harless, Sign Payton 2/Room

Fox/Payton
Heild/Bogdan
Kwahi/Harkless
Bagley/Bjelica
Lopez/Giles

More plausible good plan:

Sign Vuc 3/$80, declining. Trade #60 + cap space for Harkless. Sign Payton 2/Room

Fox/Payton
Heild/Bogdan
Barnes/Harkless
Bagley/Bjelica
Vicevic/Giles

The best-case scenario plan should be a 55-win team or so. And with GS likely taking a big step back I'd see them as not being outclassed by anyone in a league with more parity then recent years). The plausible scanrio looks more like 45-50 wins, but should still be a playoff team. As much money as Vuc gets the team should be able to resign everyone they want to keep while staying under the tax for all 3 years of his deal.

For either option I'd offer Heild a 4/$90 extension (flat or declining). If he holds our for more than that I'd wait until next summer.
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Post#3 » by blind prophet » Wed May 29, 2019 6:54 am

I'm going to assume Barnes opts in. Instead of chasing upper level talent I'm going to try to grab seasoned veterans.

Let Mason go

Step 1 hope veterans take the cash
Sign Lopez to a 2/25
Sign Beverley 2/25

Vet minimum deals

Resign Kosta for the minimum $2,393,887
Resign Brewer for the minimum $2,393,887

Draft
# 40 draft the best potential larger size wing defender
# 47 Tell Vlade to draft Tacko Fall at 47 early just in case someone else has the same idea.
# 60 Euro stash

Fox/Beverley/Yogi
Buddy/Bogi/Yogi
Barnes/Brewer/second round pick
Bagley/Bjelica
Lopez/Giles/Kosta


Swanigan & Tacko spend most of the year in development. Pray the wing in the second round can enter deep rotations.

Should have about 7.2 million left....less if have to pony up more for Lopez or Beverly

I'm going to hold on to that cash for now for potential trades.
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Post#4 » by Coeur » Wed May 29, 2019 7:08 am

The pick 60 for mo harmless and the lowball price tag you had for vucevic and even elfrid p is going to get paid somewhere, make those plans fall apart


I think you could get some really good picks in the 40’s. Louis the King if you’re lucky.
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Post#5 » by 916fan » Wed May 29, 2019 8:20 am

Free Agency:
Harrison Barnes Opts in
Resign WCS to 3 years $39million (13mpy)
Sign Nikola Mirotic 2 years $30million (15mpy)
Sign Corey Joseph 1 year $7million (7mpy)
Sign Stanley Johnson 1 year minimum

Draft
#40 draft pick: Louis King, young wing
#47 draft pick: Jalen Leque, young raw guard, future investment.
#60 draft pick: Justin Wright-Foreman, 2-way PG (Kings brought him in for predraft workout)

Fox/Joseph/Yogi
Buddy/Bogdan/Leque
Barnes/Bjelica/Johnson/King
Bagley/Mirotic
WCS/Giles/Swanigan


Basic rotation of: Fox-Buddy-Barnes-Bagey-WCS. Substitution of: Joseph-Bogdan-Bjelica-Mirotic-Giles with Stanley Johnson being able to fill in for matchups for Bjelica or even Mirotic as neither of them are traditional SFs. Down the stretch, I think you can alter that lineup however you want as there's many options.

Both lineups play with a high pace as the 2nd unit is very scoring oriented. Joseph-Bogdanovic can make for a very good back court. Mirotic provides experience and scoring expertise to the younger Kings team. I think this team has enough fire power to get to the playoffs. Bank on the young guys taking a big step in their game, while also having a very dynamic bench. Ideal scenario would be to nab KD, Kawhi, or Butler.. but very unlikely. Not a big fan of Tobias nor Vucevic for this team though.
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Post#6 » by sacking123 » Wed May 29, 2019 8:39 am

Waive Yogi
Renounce WCS and give every team that rings a glowing endorsement of him
Sign Dedmon to 2/30 declining deal (15.5/14.5)
Sign Patrick Beverley to 1/18m
Sign Koufos 1/2.5
Sign Jared Dudley 1/2.5
Sign Corey Brewer 1/2.5

Draft: #40 Jaylen Hoard, #47 Jalen Lecque, #60 Brian Bowen (Still has another year on his Sydney deal)
All of the picks won’t play for the Kings. Hoard is the one that might be back and forth between Stockton and Sacramento, but won’t see the floor so sign him for the 2019/20 season.
All three of these guys are gambles, they will just hope they can develop one into a good NBA player.

Sacramento will have to overpay to sign players, they don’t get the big fish they are after, however these pieces
The thinking for Beverley is to give him a figure he just can’t refuse. Sell him on helping the young group make the POs and who knows from there. Reward him with a big dollar figure. He will be a huge asset on the court with helping the D and I believe he would be a great influence on Fox. He can play fast and shoots decent numbers without the ball in his hands too.
Salary wise, the same can be said with Dedmon, overpay with the thinking he will play decent minutes this season and not so much the following year depending on Giles’ development.
This keeps the cap space in great shape moving forward to sign important pieces in Fox, Hield, BB and Giles, and if a superstar gets disgruntled there are loads of options moving forward with expiring contracts (Barnes, Beverley, BB, Bjelica, vets) and youth with some upside.
A lot of people were surprised with the upswing of Sacramento’s players this year, but don’t be next season when all of the same guys take another leap forward and the chemistry is only going to get better and with a coach that will allow Buddy to let the 3 ball rip at any time.

Fox (32)/Beverley (26)/Mason (2)
Hield (32)/BB (22)/Dudley (0)
Barnes (33)/Brewer (8)/Hoard (0)
Bagley (31)/Bjelica (20)/Swanigan (0)
Dedmon (22)/Giles (12)/Koufos (0)

Player Age 2019-20
Harrison Barnes 26 $25,102,512
Patrick Beverley 30 $18,000,000
Dewayne Dedmon 29 $15,500,000
Bogdan Bogdanovic 26 $8,529,386
Marvin Bagley 20 $8,556,120
Nemanja Bjelica 31 $6,825,000
De'Aaron Fox 21 $6,392,760
Buddy Hield 26 $4,861,208
Harry Giles 21 $2,578,800
Caleb Swanigan 22 $2,033,160
Kosta Koufos 30 $2,500,000
Corey Brewer 33 $2,500,000
Jared Dudley 33 $2,500,000
Jaylen Hoard 20 $1,650,000
Frank Mason 25 $1,618,520
Team Totals $109,147,466


What I really want the Kings to do is find a way to get Kurucs from the Nets. He fits perfectly in here.
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Post#7 » by 916fan » Wed May 29, 2019 11:00 am

simonbampfield wrote:Waive Yogi
Renounce WCS and give every team that rings a glowing endorsement of him
Sign Dedmon to 2/30 declining deal (15.5/14.5)
Sign Patrick Beverley to 1/18m
Sign Koufos 1/2.5
Sign Jared Dudley 1/2.5
Sign Corey Brewer 1/2.5

Draft: #40 Jaylen Hoard, #47 Jalen Lecque, #60 Brian Bowen (Still has another year on his Sydney deal)
All of the picks won’t play for the Kings. Hoard is the one that might be back and forth between Stockton and Sacramento, but won’t see the floor so sign him for the 2019/20 season.
All three of these guys are gambles, they will just hope they can develop one into a good NBA player.

Sacramento will have to overpay to sign players, they don’t get the big fish they are after, however these pieces
The thinking for Beverley is to give him a figure he just can’t refuse. Sell him on helping the young group make the POs and who knows from there. Reward him with a big dollar figure. He will be a huge asset on the court with helping the D and I believe he would be a great influence on Fox. He can play fast and shoots decent numbers without the ball in his hands too.
Salary wise, the same can be said with Dedmon, overpay with the thinking he will play decent minutes this season and not so much the following year depending on Giles’ development.
This keeps the cap space in great shape moving forward to sign important pieces in Fox, Hield, BB and Giles, and if a superstar gets disgruntled there are loads of options moving forward with expiring contracts (Barnes, Beverley, BB, Bjelica, vets) and youth with some upside.
A lot of people were surprised with the upswing of Sacramento’s players this year, but don’t be next season when all of the same guys take another leap forward and the chemistry is only going to get better and with a coach that will allow Buddy to let the 3 ball rip at any time.

Fox (32)/Beverley (26)/Mason (2)
Hield (32)/BB (22)/Dudley (0)
Barnes (33)/Brewer (8)/Hoard (0)
Bagley (31)/Bjelica (20)/Swanigan (0)
Dedmon (22)/Giles (12)/Koufos (0)

Player Age 2019-20
Harrison Barnes 26 $25,102,512
Patrick Beverley 30 $18,000,000
Dewayne Dedmon 29 $15,500,000
Bogdan Bogdanovic 26 $8,529,386
Marvin Bagley 20 $8,556,120
Nemanja Bjelica 31 $6,825,000
De'Aaron Fox 21 $6,392,760
Buddy Hield 26 $4,861,208
Harry Giles 21 $2,578,800
Caleb Swanigan 22 $2,033,160
Kosta Koufos 30 $2,500,000
Corey Brewer 33 $2,500,000
Jared Dudley 33 $2,500,000
Jaylen Hoard 20 $1,650,000
Frank Mason 25 $1,618,520
Team Totals $109,147,466


What I really want the Kings to do is find a way to get Kurucs from the Nets. He fits perfectly in here.

No offense, but that team is pretty bad. We get rid of WCS, yet somehow manage to get even worse than before? Dedmond isn't worth that contract. The only clear upgrade we have is backup PG. If we're spending all of our cap, I would assume the team improves. Don't see any type of real progression here despite spending all of our cap space.
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#8 » by daoneandonly » Wed May 29, 2019 11:04 am

simonbampfield wrote:Waive Yogi
Renounce WCS and give every team that rings a glowing endorsement of him
Sign Dedmon to 2/30 declining deal (15.5/14.5)
Sign Patrick Beverley to 1/18m
Sign Koufos 1/2.5
Sign Jared Dudley 1/2.5
Sign Corey Brewer 1/2.5

Draft: #40 Jaylen Hoard, #47 Jalen Lecque, #60 Brian Bowen (Still has another year on his Sydney deal)
All of the picks won’t play for the Kings. Hoard is the one that might be back and forth between Stockton and Sacramento, but won’t see the floor so sign him for the 2019/20 season.
All three of these guys are gambles, they will just hope they can develop one into a good NBA player.

Sacramento will have to overpay to sign players, they don’t get the big fish they are after, however these pieces
The thinking for Beverley is to give him a figure he just can’t refuse. Sell him on helping the young group make the POs and who knows from there. Reward him with a big dollar figure. He will be a huge asset on the court with helping the D and I believe he would be a great influence on Fox. He can play fast and shoots decent numbers without the ball in his hands too.
Salary wise, the same can be said with Dedmon, overpay with the thinking he will play decent minutes this season and not so much the following year depending on Giles’ development.
This keeps the cap space in great shape moving forward to sign important pieces in Fox, Hield, BB and Giles, and if a superstar gets disgruntled there are loads of options moving forward with expiring contracts (Barnes, Beverley, BB, Bjelica, vets) and youth with some upside.
A lot of people were surprised with the upswing of Sacramento’s players this year, but don’t be next season when all of the same guys take another leap forward and the chemistry is only going to get better and with a coach that will allow Buddy to let the 3 ball rip at any time.

Fox (32)/Beverley (26)/Mason (2)
Hield (32)/BB (22)/Dudley (0)
Barnes (33)/Brewer (8)/Hoard (0)
Bagley (31)/Bjelica (20)/Swanigan (0)
Dedmon (22)/Giles (12)/Koufos (0)

Player Age 2019-20
Harrison Barnes 26 $25,102,512
Patrick Beverley 30 $18,000,000
Dewayne Dedmon 29 $15,500,000
Bogdan Bogdanovic 26 $8,529,386
Marvin Bagley 20 $8,556,120
Nemanja Bjelica 31 $6,825,000
De'Aaron Fox 21 $6,392,760
Buddy Hield 26 $4,861,208
Harry Giles 21 $2,578,800
Caleb Swanigan 22 $2,033,160
Kosta Koufos 30 $2,500,000
Corey Brewer 33 $2,500,000
Jared Dudley 33 $2,500,000
Jaylen Hoard 20 $1,650,000
Frank Mason 25 $1,618,520
Team Totals $109,147,466


What I really want the Kings to do is find a way to get Kurucs from the Nets. He fits perfectly in here.


Has Yogi not been decent enough to warrant being a cheap backup to Fox? He was fairly good in Dallas, so curious.
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Post#9 » by 916fan » Wed May 29, 2019 11:15 am

daoneandonly wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:Waive Yogi
Renounce WCS and give every team that rings a glowing endorsement of him
Sign Dedmon to 2/30 declining deal (15.5/14.5)
Sign Patrick Beverley to 1/18m
Sign Koufos 1/2.5
Sign Jared Dudley 1/2.5
Sign Corey Brewer 1/2.5

Draft: #40 Jaylen Hoard, #47 Jalen Lecque, #60 Brian Bowen (Still has another year on his Sydney deal)
All of the picks won’t play for the Kings. Hoard is the one that might be back and forth between Stockton and Sacramento, but won’t see the floor so sign him for the 2019/20 season.
All three of these guys are gambles, they will just hope they can develop one into a good NBA player.

Sacramento will have to overpay to sign players, they don’t get the big fish they are after, however these pieces
The thinking for Beverley is to give him a figure he just can’t refuse. Sell him on helping the young group make the POs and who knows from there. Reward him with a big dollar figure. He will be a huge asset on the court with helping the D and I believe he would be a great influence on Fox. He can play fast and shoots decent numbers without the ball in his hands too.
Salary wise, the same can be said with Dedmon, overpay with the thinking he will play decent minutes this season and not so much the following year depending on Giles’ development.
This keeps the cap space in great shape moving forward to sign important pieces in Fox, Hield, BB and Giles, and if a superstar gets disgruntled there are loads of options moving forward with expiring contracts (Barnes, Beverley, BB, Bjelica, vets) and youth with some upside.
A lot of people were surprised with the upswing of Sacramento’s players this year, but don’t be next season when all of the same guys take another leap forward and the chemistry is only going to get better and with a coach that will allow Buddy to let the 3 ball rip at any time.

Fox (32)/Beverley (26)/Mason (2)
Hield (32)/BB (22)/Dudley (0)
Barnes (33)/Brewer (8)/Hoard (0)
Bagley (31)/Bjelica (20)/Swanigan (0)
Dedmon (22)/Giles (12)/Koufos (0)

Player Age 2019-20
Harrison Barnes 26 $25,102,512
Patrick Beverley 30 $18,000,000
Dewayne Dedmon 29 $15,500,000
Bogdan Bogdanovic 26 $8,529,386
Marvin Bagley 20 $8,556,120
Nemanja Bjelica 31 $6,825,000
De'Aaron Fox 21 $6,392,760
Buddy Hield 26 $4,861,208
Harry Giles 21 $2,578,800
Caleb Swanigan 22 $2,033,160
Kosta Koufos 30 $2,500,000
Corey Brewer 33 $2,500,000
Jared Dudley 33 $2,500,000
Jaylen Hoard 20 $1,650,000
Frank Mason 25 $1,618,520
Team Totals $109,147,466


What I really want the Kings to do is find a way to get Kurucs from the Nets. He fits perfectly in here.


Has Yogi not been decent enough to warrant being a cheap backup to Fox? He was fairly good in Dallas, so curious.

Yogi has been a fan favorite, but he's not much of a PG. The Kings do have Bogdanovic who can play backup point for extended periods, but the Kings still need a true PG to run the offense and take pressure off of him. Going back to Yogi, he's much more of an undersized SG.
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Post#10 » by sacking123 » Wed May 29, 2019 12:31 pm

916fan wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:Waive Yogi
Renounce WCS and give every team that rings a glowing endorsement of him
Sign Dedmon to 2/30 declining deal (15.5/14.5)
Sign Patrick Beverley to 1/18m
Sign Koufos 1/2.5
Sign Jared Dudley 1/2.5
Sign Corey Brewer 1/2.5

Draft: #40 Jaylen Hoard, #47 Jalen Lecque, #60 Brian Bowen (Still has another year on his Sydney deal)
All of the picks won’t play for the Kings. Hoard is the one that might be back and forth between Stockton and Sacramento, but won’t see the floor so sign him for the 2019/20 season.
All three of these guys are gambles, they will just hope they can develop one into a good NBA player.

Sacramento will have to overpay to sign players, they don’t get the big fish they are after, however these pieces
The thinking for Beverley is to give him a figure he just can’t refuse. Sell him on helping the young group make the POs and who knows from there. Reward him with a big dollar figure. He will be a huge asset on the court with helping the D and I believe he would be a great influence on Fox. He can play fast and shoots decent numbers without the ball in his hands too.
Salary wise, the same can be said with Dedmon, overpay with the thinking he will play decent minutes this season and not so much the following year depending on Giles’ development.
This keeps the cap space in great shape moving forward to sign important pieces in Fox, Hield, BB and Giles, and if a superstar gets disgruntled there are loads of options moving forward with expiring contracts (Barnes, Beverley, BB, Bjelica, vets) and youth with some upside.
A lot of people were surprised with the upswing of Sacramento’s players this year, but don’t be next season when all of the same guys take another leap forward and the chemistry is only going to get better and with a coach that will allow Buddy to let the 3 ball rip at any time.

Fox (32)/Beverley (26)/Mason (2)
Hield (32)/BB (22)/Dudley (0)
Barnes (33)/Brewer (8)/Hoard (0)
Bagley (31)/Bjelica (20)/Swanigan (0)
Dedmon (22)/Giles (12)/Koufos (0)

Player Age 2019-20
Harrison Barnes 26 $25,102,512
Patrick Beverley 30 $18,000,000
Dewayne Dedmon 29 $15,500,000
Bogdan Bogdanovic 26 $8,529,386
Marvin Bagley 20 $8,556,120
Nemanja Bjelica 31 $6,825,000
De'Aaron Fox 21 $6,392,760
Buddy Hield 26 $4,861,208
Harry Giles 21 $2,578,800
Caleb Swanigan 22 $2,033,160
Kosta Koufos 30 $2,500,000
Corey Brewer 33 $2,500,000
Jared Dudley 33 $2,500,000
Jaylen Hoard 20 $1,650,000
Frank Mason 25 $1,618,520
Team Totals $109,147,466


What I really want the Kings to do is find a way to get Kurucs from the Nets. He fits perfectly in here.

No offense, but that team is pretty bad. We get rid of WCS, yet somehow manage to get even worse than before? Dedmond isn't worth that contract. The only clear upgrade we have is backup PG. If we're spending all of our cap, I would assume the team improves. Don't see any type of real progression here despite spending all of our cap space.

No offence taken.
I’m not going to get into a WCS v Dedmon debate.
However we improve at the 5 with Dedmon opening up the inside for Bagley. That is something that not only WCS can’t do, but he actually does the opposite. He has no place on this team, he proved as much this past season. He is a terrific runner so I like his game in terms of fit in a fast pace, but that’s it.
The spacing is absolutely critical for the Kings moving forward as Bagley will cement himself as the Kings’ number 1 next season.
We don’t just get an upgrade at the PG position, we sign one of if not the best backup PGs in the NBA and allows the Kings to put together terrific defensive line ups.
In terms of spending big on the guys that don’t deserve it, yes absolutely it is overspending, but what the Kings can do is overpay, what they shouldn’t be doing is signing guys to long term deals unless they are stars and true difference makers.

As you put in your Kings post you would give WCS 13-14m?
If the Kings are going to sign him long term for that much then you might as well go all in for Vucevic and pay the difference.

As you pointed out all of the cap space would be gone, but it preserves future cap space for guys that will truly be the core, Fox, Hield and then Bagley. Not being forced to give a player like WCS almost what 15m in the 2nd year of his deal only for Giles to take his starting spot.



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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#11 » by BoogieTime » Wed May 29, 2019 2:16 pm

916fan wrote:
simonbampfield wrote:Waive Yogi
Renounce WCS and give every team that rings a glowing endorsement of him
Sign Dedmon to 2/30 declining deal (15.5/14.5)
Sign Patrick Beverley to 1/18m
Sign Koufos 1/2.5
Sign Jared Dudley 1/2.5
Sign Corey Brewer 1/2.5

Draft: #40 Jaylen Hoard, #47 Jalen Lecque, #60 Brian Bowen (Still has another year on his Sydney deal)
All of the picks won’t play for the Kings. Hoard is the one that might be back and forth between Stockton and Sacramento, but won’t see the floor so sign him for the 2019/20 season.
All three of these guys are gambles, they will just hope they can develop one into a good NBA player.

Sacramento will have to overpay to sign players, they don’t get the big fish they are after, however these pieces
The thinking for Beverley is to give him a figure he just can’t refuse. Sell him on helping the young group make the POs and who knows from there. Reward him with a big dollar figure. He will be a huge asset on the court with helping the D and I believe he would be a great influence on Fox. He can play fast and shoots decent numbers without the ball in his hands too.
Salary wise, the same can be said with Dedmon, overpay with the thinking he will play decent minutes this season and not so much the following year depending on Giles’ development.
This keeps the cap space in great shape moving forward to sign important pieces in Fox, Hield, BB and Giles, and if a superstar gets disgruntled there are loads of options moving forward with expiring contracts (Barnes, Beverley, BB, Bjelica, vets) and youth with some upside.
A lot of people were surprised with the upswing of Sacramento’s players this year, but don’t be next season when all of the same guys take another leap forward and the chemistry is only going to get better and with a coach that will allow Buddy to let the 3 ball rip at any time.

Fox (32)/Beverley (26)/Mason (2)
Hield (32)/BB (22)/Dudley (0)
Barnes (33)/Brewer (8)/Hoard (0)
Bagley (31)/Bjelica (20)/Swanigan (0)
Dedmon (22)/Giles (12)/Koufos (0)

Player Age 2019-20
Harrison Barnes 26 $25,102,512
Patrick Beverley 30 $18,000,000
Dewayne Dedmon 29 $15,500,000
Bogdan Bogdanovic 26 $8,529,386
Marvin Bagley 20 $8,556,120
Nemanja Bjelica 31 $6,825,000
De'Aaron Fox 21 $6,392,760
Buddy Hield 26 $4,861,208
Harry Giles 21 $2,578,800
Caleb Swanigan 22 $2,033,160
Kosta Koufos 30 $2,500,000
Corey Brewer 33 $2,500,000
Jared Dudley 33 $2,500,000
Jaylen Hoard 20 $1,650,000
Frank Mason 25 $1,618,520
Team Totals $109,147,466


What I really want the Kings to do is find a way to get Kurucs from the Nets. He fits perfectly in here.

No offense, but that team is pretty bad. We get rid of WCS, yet somehow manage to get even worse than before? Dedmond isn't worth that contract. The only clear upgrade we have is backup PG. If we're spending all of our cap, I would assume the team improves. Don't see any type of real progression here despite spending all of our cap space.


No offense, your team is worse. WCS isn’t starting here next year, and you’ll probably be the only variation having that
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#12 » by giberish » Wed May 29, 2019 2:41 pm

Coeur wrote:The pick 60 for mo harmless and the lowball price tag you had for vucevic and even elfrid p is going to get paid somewhere, make those plans fall apart



#60 for Harkless is about salary relief for Portland (obviously not the pick - that's just because teams have to send something out in a trade). There are a few other options for picking up a good defensive SF option. Such as taking on Roberson from OKC (may even get a pick upgrade in that deal), signing Carroll for a 1 or 2 year deal (should be well under the $10M spend on Harkless).

I wouldn't be sure Payton gets more then room money - he got less last summer. Again, while there is a limited market for quality starting PGs, there are a lot of options who would be better bench PG's then Yogi and they won't all get paid so a few will be available for room money if Payton gets more elsewhere.

Finally most fans think $25M is an upper limit for a Vuc deal with many expecting less. This isn't a lowball offer.
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#13 » by Coeur » Wed May 29, 2019 3:28 pm

giberish wrote:
Coeur wrote:The pick 60 for mo harmless and the lowball price tag you had for vucevic and even elfrid p is going to get paid somewhere, make those plans fall apart



#60 for Harkless is about salary relief for Portland (obviously not the pick - that's just because teams have to send something out in a trade). There are a few other options for picking up a good defensive SF option. Such as taking on Roberson from OKC (may even get a pick upgrade in that deal), signing Carroll for a 1 or 2 year deal (should be well under the $10M spend on Harkless).

I wouldn't be sure Payton gets more then room money - he got less last summer. Again, while there is a limited market for quality starting PGs, there are a lot of options who would be better bench PG's then Yogi and they won't all get paid so a few will be available for room money if Payton gets more elsewhere.

Finally most fans think $25M is an upper limit for a Vuc deal with many expecting less. This isn't a lowball offer.


Maybe you are right on mo harmless.

I think the max free agents all return to their teams. Only way vucevic is signed has to be 4 years and more than that I would have thoufht? Orlando should be offering him 5 at close to that right?

I believe Kings should be takers of bad contracts and future assets instead of trying to spend that 37 mill.
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#14 » by HartfordWhalers » Wed May 29, 2019 3:55 pm

giberish wrote:I see the Kings starting with 7 guys in place for a 2-deep rotation:

Fox/--
Hield/Bogdan
Barnes/--
Bagley/Bjelica
--/Giles


Really well written out set up and full post. I am stealing your 7 man rotation and will try to do it justice with a similar one.

That said, I think it will take more to get Vucevic to go to Sac (he is leaving a known place and a tax free state for a very high tax state and a slightly unsettled franchise, although Orlando has drafted a successor so, maybe he is more ready to leave than I expected.

Base case plan:

Fox/--
Hield/Bogdan
Barnes/--
Bagley/Bjelica
Vuc (120m/4years, 30m a year flat) /Giles

It overpays to fill a hole that is the biggest hole. Backup pg is a with room fill, although bringing back Yogi for continuity works. Maybe you get a jeff Green type at the with room exception for depth, and you run back with a team that can live or die on the youth it already has.

Stop gap plan:
Brook Lopez 2 years 30m, 2nd year 2m gtd (just to annoy us who hate a partial gtd).
Terrence Ross 1 year 18m.

Fox/--
Hield/Bogdan
Barnes/Ross
Bagley/Bjelica
Brook /Giles


This is where it gets interesting. Sac roles over their cap space for a single year, aiming to sneak into the playoffs and then make a bigger splash next year signing free agents.

As for who they target, the idea is simple. Shooting. Shooting. Shooting. Add space, watch youth grow, then hope someone better joins youth. If not, re-sign for nonBird rights Ross or use that space for someone else and go on your way.

Much more conservative then any swing for fences ideas...

Unexpected Love-In (and I have concerns) Plan
This is the idea that brings the hate. But remember how long it has been since Sac traded Cleveland a pick that never conveyed?
Spoiler:
Hickson for Caspi
Kevin Love for protected pick, with decent protections.

Fox/--
Hield/Bogdan
Barnes/
Bagley/Bjelica
Love /Giles

Oh you think the defense will be terrible, and it will fail? Okay. I cannot argue with any of that. None. But you try to bring in say Noel (I know, I am biased), and he adds a guy that can be pure defense with Love sliding pf, or with Bjelica spacing.

And how often can you get a near All star caliber player for a pick that is lotto protected? When was the last time Sac made the playoffs? Why not now (anyway).

I will say now I hate it for Sac so no one accuses me of bias if it happens Plan:
Same idea as the unexpected Love-In, but you offer a full max day one to Tobias Harris.

Long term isn't Bagley going to half to play center anyway? Get a flexible tweener and run a spread 4 out offense with
Fox/--
Hield/Bogdan
Barnes/
Harris/Bjelica
Bagley /Giles

It can spread the floor, it can switch back and forth and forth again. It can run. It can win 45 games. And will Tobias get a better offer than a full max with trade kicker and whatever else he wants from an up and coming California team


Finally the get paid to wait plan:
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#15 » by jbk1234 » Wed May 29, 2019 3:59 pm

I think they should make a run at Middleton first, and assuming that fails, get a solid backup PG and rebounding/defensive big man. The Kings have the offensive talent but they've got to upgrade their defense.
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#16 » by giberish » Wed May 29, 2019 4:14 pm

Coeur wrote:
giberish wrote:
Coeur wrote:The pick 60 for mo harmless and the lowball price tag you had for vucevic and even elfrid p is going to get paid somewhere, make those plans fall apart



#60 for Harkless is about salary relief for Portland (obviously not the pick - that's just because teams have to send something out in a trade). There are a few other options for picking up a good defensive SF option. Such as taking on Roberson from OKC (may even get a pick upgrade in that deal), signing Carroll for a 1 or 2 year deal (should be well under the $10M spend on Harkless).

I wouldn't be sure Payton gets more then room money - he got less last summer. Again, while there is a limited market for quality starting PGs, there are a lot of options who would be better bench PG's then Yogi and they won't all get paid so a few will be available for room money if Payton gets more elsewhere.

Finally most fans think $25M is an upper limit for a Vuc deal with many expecting less. This isn't a lowball offer.


Maybe you are right on mo harmless.

I think the max free agents all return to their teams. Only way vucevic is signed has to be 4 years and more than that I would have thoufht? Orlando should be offering him 5 at close to that right?

I believe Kings should be takers of bad contracts and future assets instead of trying to spend that 37 mill.


Vuc is a tough call. Based just on his last year he could credibly make a 30% max deal. But that was his best year by a bunch and he's not that young (so probably won't be as good again). He also had a poor playoff series and is a center - both of which probably reduce his contract size. He's also unrestircted, so if Orlando is offering 4/$90 and he prefers a 3/$80 deal from the Kings Orlando can't just match it to keep him.
Also - Sac was just as good as Orlando last year with WCS starting at C as Orlando was with Vuc playing at an all-star level. Presumably the rest of the Kings are better then the rest of Orlando.

For the Kings, the contract was set to be as much as possible while not creating obvious luxury tax issues resigning guys down the road. 3 years so even if Bagley blows up it's not a contract problem with Heild and Fox already off their rookie deals. If not enough move down the list. I'd probably have Favors 2nd and Lopez 3rd.

In general the top priority for the Kings should be to get their young core into the playoffs. IMO that's far more important than renting cap space for a late 1st or two.
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#17 » by Stillwater » Wed May 29, 2019 4:15 pm

Coeur wrote:The pick 60 for mo harmless and the lowball price tag you had for vucevic and even elfrid p is going to get paid somewhere, make those plans fall apart


I think you could get some really good picks in the 40’s. Louis the King if you’re lucky.


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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#18 » by Coeur » Wed May 29, 2019 4:26 pm

giberish wrote:
Coeur wrote:
giberish wrote:
#60 for Harkless is about salary relief for Portland (obviously not the pick - that's just because teams have to send something out in a trade). There are a few other options for picking up a good defensive SF option. Such as taking on Roberson from OKC (may even get a pick upgrade in that deal), signing Carroll for a 1 or 2 year deal (should be well under the $10M spend on Harkless).

I wouldn't be sure Payton gets more then room money - he got less last summer. Again, while there is a limited market for quality starting PGs, there are a lot of options who would be better bench PG's then Yogi and they won't all get paid so a few will be available for room money if Payton gets more elsewhere.

Finally most fans think $25M is an upper limit for a Vuc deal with many expecting less. This isn't a lowball offer.


Maybe you are right on mo harmless.

I think the max free agents all return to their teams. Only way vucevic is signed has to be 4 years and more than that I would have thoufht? Orlando should be offering him 5 at close to that right?

I believe Kings should be takers of bad contracts and future assets instead of trying to spend that 37 mill.




In general the top priority for the Kings should be to get their young core into the playoffs. IMO that's far more important than renting cap space for a late 1st or two.

Have to respect that plan.

They’ll have to use their cap space and must bring back wcs. He’s not going to command too crazy of money that you can give that asset up now.
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#19 » by Texas Chuck » Wed May 29, 2019 4:35 pm

I'd go really hard after Klay. That's not going to work, but I'd give it the full court press. Next I go after Middleton. If by some chance I land either of those I'm calling up Houston and offering Bogs/Yogi/Giles for Capela. Rockets get some depth and the Kings finish out their starters.

Capela/Bagley/Min FA
Bjelica/Bagley/Barnes
Middleton(Klay?)/Barnes
Hield/Middleton(Klay)
Fox/Room Exception

I feel encouraged about that top 7, should be able to get it to an 8 I like with my backup PG. Need to find some vet min wing depth and I'm probably one year away from filling every hole, but this is a group to grow together.
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Re: I Know What They Should Do This Summer 2019: Sacramento Kings 

Post#20 » by Eskobar13 » Wed May 29, 2019 4:51 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I'd go really hard after Klay. That's not going to work, but I'd give it the full court press. Next I go after Middleton. If by some chance I land either of those I'm calling up Houston and offering Bogs/Yogi/Giles for Capela. Rockets get some depth and the Kings finish out their starters.

Capela/Bagley/Min FA
Bjelica/Bagley/Barnes
Middleton(Klay?)/Barnes
Hield/Middleton(Klay)
Fox/Room Exception

I feel encouraged about that top 7, should be able to get it to an 8 I like with my backup PG. Need to find some vet min wing depth and I'm probably one year away from filling every hole, but this is a group to grow together.


This might not be super realistic but it's also the only roster posted so fair that I can look at and say: playoffs, baby!

I really hope the Kings don't pull the trigger on wasting their assets too soon. I'm honestly not sure if the team didn't overachieve a bit this year and playoffs might be further away than it looked.

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