WOJ: OKC in absolute win now mode, aggressively shopping 21st pick

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Re: WOJ: OKC in absolute win now mode, aggressively shopping 21st pick 

Post#21 » by Crazy-Canuck » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:55 am

Wiggs and Saric to okc
They get out of Wiggs contract and from possibly overpaying saric

Schroeder and Roberson to minny
OKC get spacing, and a lottery ticket to see if they can turn wiggs around.

OKC can role out

WB/Felton?
Wiggs/Ferguson
George/Grant
Saric/Grant
Adams/Noel

Minny can role out

Teague/Scroeder
Okogie/Reynolds
Cov/Reynolds/KBD
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Re: WOJ: OKC in absolute win now mode, aggressively shopping 21st pick 

Post#22 » by Monky15 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:40 am

Adams and #21 to Sacramento for Bogdanovic, Ferrel. Kings wanted more rebounding and Adams helps with that while adding a 1st.

Schroder to Minnesota for Dieng, Saric. Wolves do it to turn Dieng's mainly dead salary into a rotation player while saving some money.

PPat, Diallo to Utah for Favors. Jazz do it clear cap space for Russel or Butler. Pick up 2 players for the same as what Favors was guaranteed for. Diallo could be a real steal with Utah's player development.

Westbrook / Ferrel
Bogdanovic / Ferguson
George / Robertson / Nader
Saric / Grant / Noel
Favors / Dieng / Noel

Still have taxpayer exception for someone.
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Re: WOJ: OKC in absolute win now mode, aggressively shopping 21st pick 

Post#23 » by shrink » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:09 am

I don’t agree with OKC’s win-now mode, but if that’s the goal, they are in an unfortunate position. With few positive assets to trade, they may be forced to take on riskier and riskier players, hoping they can get lucky and find a star talent that’s available for peanuts. Love, Wiggins, CP3, and Hayward all have dangerous contracts that give them negative price tags that OKC can actually afford.
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Re: WOJ: OKC in absolute win now mode, aggressively shopping 21st pick 

Post#24 » by Eskobar13 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:51 am

Eh, still think we should probably start by changing the coach.

Other than that, taking on even more salary (longer contract even if at less per year value) or packaging pick with Adams (Sacramento) should be our best options.
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Re: WOJ: OKC in absolute win now mode, aggressively shopping 21st pick 

Post#25 » by Jon1798 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:57 am

I think an under the radar acquisition for OKC could be a guy like E’Twaun Moore
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Post#26 » by Monky15 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:02 am

Jon1798 wrote:I think an under the radar acquisition for OKC could be a guy like E’Twaun Moore

PPat, #21 for Moore, #39 I think would get it done.
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Post#27 » by Jon1798 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:09 am

Monky15 wrote:
Jon1798 wrote:I think an under the radar acquisition for OKC could be a guy like E’Twaun Moore

PPat, #21 for Moore, #39 I think would get it done.


I would agree. Looks about right. Moore is a really solid player with good shooting. But I don’t see a real point on our team next year. I would suspect they will want to play guys like Frank Jackson more off the bench, and I assume we will get a wing or two from the AD trade.
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Post#28 » by kb02 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:19 am

#21 for Bjelica + #47.

OKC needs shooting.
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Post#29 » by Laimbeer » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:20 am

If it's absolute win now, they need to put more than one FRP on the table. #21 is not that high, and they'd probably have to attach a player on an iffy deal.

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Post#30 » by Revenged25 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 11:31 am

Dr Positivity wrote:It's weird how much OKC's strategy has changed over the years from saving money and assets to being the team that will pay any lux tax and trade every pick. They went from Hinkie to Colangelo with the same GM.


Just imagine if OKC hadn't been cheap and had prime and developed Westbrook, Harden, and KD... You basically get to pick which 2 go for 30+ a night while you keep the other to 20.
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Post#31 » by The Moose » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:00 pm

OKC in: Blake Griffin

OKC out: Jerami Grant, Schroder, 21st, 2020 1st round pick

DET in: Jerami Grant, Schroder, 21st, 2020 1st round pick

DET out: Blake Griffin

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Re: WOJ: OKC in absolute win now mode, aggressively shopping 21st pick 

Post#32 » by kb02 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:09 pm

Laimbeer wrote:If it's absolute win now, they need to put more than one FRP on the table. #21 is not that high, and they'd probably have to attach a player on an iffy deal.

BOS: Adams, Schroeder
OKC: Hayward, Baynes


Would rather have Adams and Schroeder than Hayward and Baynes. That hurts them more than it helps them.
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Post#33 » by bulliedog8 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 12:45 pm

Not that I am sure it will help them out but how about something like

Thunder get: Derozan

Spurs get: ....

3rd team gets: Steven Adams, ....
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Post#34 » by mademan » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:38 pm

With Durant out next year, the entire West becomes a crap shoot. Every playoff contender should be going all-in.
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Post#35 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:42 pm

Slava wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I think people are looking at the wrong level of player tbh. What can 21+ some of PPat, Roberson, and Schroeder get you? I kind of like the idea of Wiggins, tbh. It'd possibly be the worst backfire in history, but 21+Schroeder+PPat+Nader for Wiggins could be interesting. A less risky target might be Bazemore, or even TJ Warren.


If there’s a player that ticks all the boxes for a presti target, its Wiggins.


Yeah, but having just had to fight through dumping Melo’s contract, I can’t imagine he’s going to sign up for a bigger, longer contract and the price he’s have to pay to dump it, or closing the books on the Westbrook/Adams era, and killing most all of the Paul George era there in okc if it doesn’t work out.
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Post#36 » by packforfreedom » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:46 pm

OKC should absolutely trade for Wiggins.
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Post#37 » by the_process » Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:58 pm

Adams, Ferguson, 21, and a 2023 lotto protected 1st to SAC for Bogdanovic, Bjelica, and Koufos
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Post#38 » by TGW » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:26 pm

bulliedog8 wrote:Not that I am sure it will help them out but how about something like

Thunder get: Derozan

Spurs get: ....

3rd team gets: Steven Adams, ....


This is....interesting. I kind of like the premise.

How about Adams+Ferguson+21 for Derozan straight up?
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Post#39 » by Scoot McGroot » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:39 pm

the_process wrote:Adams, Ferguson, 21, and a 2023 lotto protected 1st to SAC for Bogdanovic, Bjelica, and Koufos


Koufos is a free agent. He can sign anywhere, and if OKC want him, I'm sure they could sign him for the tax payers exception. They certainly aren't going to hardcap themselves at the apron (less than $3m away after this deal, and 2 players short of filling roster spots) by receiving a player via S&T, especially a player of Koufos status.


But also, are we really undervaluing Steven Adams in these types of threads? I'm seeing a lot of offers for him, where it's asked that OKC also give up their 1st and their young talent (Is Ferguson young talent? closest thing to it, I guess...) for downgrades on the court. I get that he's paid a lot, but he'll only be 26 when this next season starts, he plays almost every game possible (he's only missed 25 games in 6 seasons), is a terrific defender and rebounder, and can actually hit a shot out to 15 feet (though he rarely takes them since he's essentially one of the best garbage offensive players in the league, and with Westbrook and PG13, that's what you want him to do). Yes, I get it. $53m owed over the next two years, but dang if he shouldn't be able to net a Bjelica/Bogdanovic package by himself, and maybe even net a pick in that deal.
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Re: WOJ: OKC in absolute win now mode, aggressively shopping 21st pick 

Post#40 » by meekrab » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:43 pm

Neeva wrote:
Slava wrote:
babyjax13 wrote:I think people are looking at the wrong level of player tbh. What can 21+ some of PPat, Roberson, and Schroeder get you? I kind of like the idea of Wiggins, tbh. It'd possibly be the worst backfire in history, but 21+Schroeder+PPat+Nader for Wiggins could be interesting. A less risky target might be Bazemore, or even TJ Warren.


If there’s a player that ticks all the boxes for a presti target, its Wiggins.

Wiggins is always a monster playing at Chesapeake Energy Arena, not sure why but he just is lol.

I mean, he's had good games and stinkers, just like anywhere else?

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