Westbrook rumor thread

Celts17Pride · Post #161 » by **Celts17Pride** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:13 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
gom wrote:I've heard Houston is more interested than Miami:

Chris Paul for Russell Westbrook straight up. Paul needs to get out of Houston anyway. Teaming Westbrook with Harden should be a lot of fun.

More likely it's a shump SnT, Gordon, boat load of future picks.

OKC isn't going to take back Paul, might as well keep Russ if that's the case. Younger, cheaper, better, career Thunder player.

Celtics rumored to want Capela. I would look for a 3 team OKC/Hou/Bos

Post #162 » by **Snakebites** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:15 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
gom wrote:I've heard Houston is more interested than Miami:

Chris Paul for Russell Westbrook straight up. Paul needs to get out of Houston anyway. Teaming Westbrook with Harden should be a lot of fun.

More likely it's a shump SnT, Gordon, boat load of future picks.

OKC isn't going to take back Paul, might as well keep Russ if that's the case. Younger, cheaper, better, career Thunder player.

I’d say OKC won’t accept any deal that has them taking on large long term salary, at least not as large or as old as Paul. I could see them taking a freshly extended young player like Winslow.

Taking on Paul serves no purpose for the Thunder- doesn’t help their financials or add young assets- their 2 goals.

They seem to want immediate cap relief, which I don’t think they can get from any of the current suitors without third team involvement. Hence why this is taking so long despite the apparent obviousness of where Russ will land.

Post #163 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:25 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
gom wrote:I've heard Houston is more interested than Miami:

Chris Paul for Russell Westbrook straight up. Paul needs to get out of Houston anyway. Teaming Westbrook with Harden should be a lot of fun.

More likely it's a shump SnT, Gordon, boat load of future picks.

OKC isn't going to take back Paul, might as well keep Russ if that's the case. Younger, cheaper, better, career Thunder player.

Celtics rumored to want Capela. I would look for a 3 team OKC/Hou/Bos

HOU out: Capela, Shump SnT at 15 (last 2 years ung), 2022 HOU 1st
HOU in: Russ, Burton

BOS out: Hayward, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st
BOS in: Capela, Schroder, Nader

OKC out: Russ, Schroder, Nader, Burton
OKC in: Hayward, Shump, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st, 2022 HOU 1st

TheOGJabroni · Post #164 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:47 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
More likely it's a shump SnT, Gordon, boat load of future picks.

OKC isn't going to take back Paul, might as well keep Russ if that's the case. Younger, cheaper, better, career Thunder player.

Celtics rumored to want Capela. I would look for a 3 team OKC/Hou/Bos

HOU out: Capela, Shump SnT at 15 (last 2 years ung), 2022 HOU 1st
HOU in: Russ, Burton

BOS out: Hayward, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st
BOS in: Capela, Schroder, Nader

OKC out: Russ, Schroder, Nader, Burton
OKC in: Hayward, Shump, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st, 2022 HOU 1st

From Boston's perspective, I think that's too much. I don't really have any interest in Schroder either.

Troubadour · Post #165 » by **Troubadour** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:49 pm

Russ + Patrick Patterson
for
Beal + John Wall

who says no

Post #166 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:52 pm

Troubadour wrote:Russ + Patrick Patterson
for
Beal + John Wall

who says no

The CBA

Troubadour · Post #167 » by **Troubadour** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:56 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:Russ + Patrick Patterson
for
Beal + John Wall

who says no

The CBA

ESPN says yes!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyuuqk68

jscott · Post #168 » by **jscott** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:58 pm

Troubadour wrote:Russ + Patrick Patterson
for
Beal + John Wall

who says no

The Wiz imo.

Post #169 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:58 pm

Troubadour wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:Russ + Patrick Patterson
for
Beal + John Wall

who says no

The CBA

ESPN says yes!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyuuqk68

They're still using last years' salary for Wall. Sportrac and a calculator.

Post #170 » by **loserX** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:00 pm

Troubadour wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:Russ + Patrick Patterson
for
Beal + John Wall

who says no

The CBA

ESPN says yes!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyuuqk68

ESPN hasn't updated their data, obviously. That's still using John Wall's salary from last year; his 2019-20 salary is over $37M. It's close to Westbrook's 1 for 1, but adding Beal's max salary to one side and Patterson's sub-MLE deal to the other means it doesn't work.

gambitx777 · Post #171 » by **gambitx777** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:00 pm

The trade Machine hasn't been updated yet. They are still using walls old cap figure. His be deal started with the start of the new league year, which is 38 mill. There for , no it does not work and no we are not trading Beal. Until he asks and so far he's told every one he wants to be here in town.

Troubadour wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Troubadour wrote:Russ + Patrick Patterson
for
Beal + John Wall

who says no

The CBA

ESPN says yes!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyuuqk68

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bigmean · Post #172 » by **bigmean** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:05 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
NBADraft2003 wrote:
bigmean wrote:Miami gets russell westbrook and patrick patterson
Okc gets justice winslow, goran dragic, kelly olynyl and bam adebayo

Okc auction off dragic and olynyk for assests

OKC isn’t getting Bam.

I don't think he's being asked for, unless it's just leverage ploy. But I think both teams are aware he's not getting included.

I feel any deal would start adebayo and winslow given the lack of first and second round pick miami has there has to be some backups out there greg monroe, bender,nene, Chandler, old man johnson or trade for feliciano or maker, labissere

bigmean · Post #173 » by **bigmean** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:07 pm

gambitx777 wrote:The trade Machine hasn't been updated yet. They are still using walls old cap figure. His be deal started with the start of the new league year, which is 38 mill. There for , no it does not work and no we are not trading Beal. Until he asks and so far he's told every one he wants to be here in town.
Troubadour wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
The CBA

ESPN says yes!

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yyuuqk68

Sent from my SM-G965U1 using RealGM mobile app

Washington would include some serious assests and also skew of second rounders 5 to 7

bigmean · Post #174 » by **bigmean** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:10 pm

Also like deal build around westbrook and patterson for teague, culver, covington and pieces but i need alot help getting the value right

Any appetite for westbrook going to the san antonio to pair with DeRozan and Aldridge

Post #175 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:45 pm

CsBsSoxPhins wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:Celtics rumored to want Capela. I would look for a 3 team OKC/Hou/Bos

HOU out: Capela, Shump SnT at 15 (last 2 years ung), 2022 HOU 1st
HOU in: Russ, Burton

BOS out: Hayward, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st
BOS in: Capela, Schroder, Nader

OKC out: Russ, Schroder, Nader, Burton
OKC in: Hayward, Shump, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st, 2022 HOU 1st

From Boston's perspective, I think that's too much. I don't really have any interest in Schroder either.

Feels like Boston would try to flip Smart for Capela. Smart is a perfect long term fit next to SGA.

Post #176 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:46 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
CsBsSoxPhins wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
HOU out: Capela, Shump SnT at 15 (last 2 years ung), 2022 HOU 1st
HOU in: Russ, Burton

BOS out: Hayward, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st
BOS in: Capela, Schroder, Nader

OKC out: Russ, Schroder, Nader, Burton
OKC in: Hayward, Shump, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st, 2022 HOU 1st

From Boston's perspective, I think that's too much. I don't really have any interest in Schroder either.

Feels like Boston would try to flip Smart for Capela. Smart is a perfect long term fit next to SGA.

I'd love to get my hands on Smart, I was under the impression Boston wasn't willing to part with him.

Post #177 » by **ThunderBolt** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:47 pm

SmartWentCrazy wrote:
CsBsSoxPhins wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
HOU out: Capela, Shump SnT at 15 (last 2 years ung), 2022 HOU 1st
HOU in: Russ, Burton

BOS out: Hayward, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st
BOS in: Capela, Schroder, Nader

OKC out: Russ, Schroder, Nader, Burton
OKC in: Hayward, Shump, Langford, 2020 MIL 1st, 2022 BOS 1st, 2022 HOU 1st

From Boston's perspective, I think that's too much. I don't really have any interest in Schroder either.

Feels like Boston would try to flip Smart for Capela. Smart is a perfect long term fit next to SGA.

Do you think Danny would trade Brown? Is he going to try to demand a max contract?

TheOGJabroni · Post #178 » by **TheOGJabroni** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:48 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
CsBsSoxPhins wrote:From Boston's perspective, I think that's too much. I don't really have any interest in Schroder either.

Feels like Boston would try to flip Smart for Capela. Smart is a perfect long term fit next to SGA.

I'd love to get my hands on Smart, I was under the impression Boston wasn't willing to part with him.

I don’t think it’s likely we move Smart either, big part of why I have no interest in Schroeder. But it’s Danny, so you never know.

Post #179 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:52 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
CsBsSoxPhins wrote:From Boston's perspective, I think that's too much. I don't really have any interest in Schroder either.

Feels like Boston would try to flip Smart for Capela. Smart is a perfect long term fit next to SGA.

I'd love to get my hands on Smart, I was under the impression Boston wasn't willing to part with him.

I cant think of any realistic way that they’d be involved in a 3 way with OKC for Capela and OKC didnt demand Smart. He’s an easy guy to sell the fanbase on given his fit and OK ties

Post #180 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:55 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
CsBsSoxPhins wrote:From Boston's perspective, I think that's too much. I don't really have any interest in Schroder either.

Feels like Boston would try to flip Smart for Capela. Smart is a perfect long term fit next to SGA.

Do you think Danny would trade Brown? Is he going to try to demand a max contract?

I think he holds onto Brown