gom wrote:I don't agree that Butler + Paul is that much better than what we have. As I've said, I'd like to see how the team plays out. We've had a pretty good off-season. We essentially got Butler + Leonard for Richardson + Whiteside and a 2023 protected first. Sometimes the best deals you make are the ones you don't do.
If we could get our 2021 & 2023 picks back, I would be tempted to trade for Paul, even knowing it might eliminate our chance for a run. It just makes sense to get the picks back, so we have them available in case a player we really want comes up on the market. The problem would be, then, where we would get space to sign the targeted player when we already have a high tax situation.
Miami needs to take a break and see what we've got. It could be that Paul gets more suitors by December (like Lakers) who aren't in the same situation we are in. Then OKC can still get out, but I think they'll end up giving up picks to whoever acquires him (unless they get the Wiggins deal offered.)
I’m in the camp of Heat fans who would like to see what happens with CP and our picks back. I don’t think Riley should cave on that stance - if it costs us completing the deal then so be it.
The only way I can see a cave-in where we only get 1 pick back would be to swap the 2020 for the 2021 & 23. That frees up our future picks to be still able to send out up to 3 (22, 24 & 26).
CP does have a habit of making teams better when he arrives, he just seems to grate on co-stars. It’s been mentioned on the Heat board that the stars he’s had issues are not like Butler, it’s probably actually more like they’ve both had the same issues: players taking trainings, prep and games seriously/professionally (Griffin/KAT/Embiid), improving their efforts off-ball (Harden/Wiggins), ball freezing and stalling flow (Harden/Simmons). Butler is a different cut to other stars CP has played with and while they’ll clash it will be in a way that ends up making both better. CP will push Butler to be the best he can be and Butler will challenge him to keep up.
Having said all that: his contract is horrendous & we need incentives to take on that deal. If we can take on a contract we honestly don’t want and get the assets/ability to trade for someone we do (Beal) then it’s a deal worth doing. If not, then we’re not interested.