OKC Nuggets

RebelWithACause · Post #1 » by **RebelWithACause** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:49 pm

OKC: Gallinari, Noel, Patterson
Denver: Plumlee, Barton, Michael Porter Jr.

Why for OKC: they get a good young prospect

Why for Denver: Gallo really improves the team and likes Colorado (team friendly 3 year 40 Mil Deal after expiring?)

C: Jokic / Noel / Bol Bol
PF: Milsap / Grant / Patterson / Vanderbilt
SF: Gallinari / Craig / Hernangomez
SG: Harris / Beasley
PG: Murray / Morris

Post #2 » by **Mamba4Goat** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:53 pm

I want to ask for Beasley too but I feel like that may be too much.

Coeur · Post #3 » by **Coeur** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:16 pm

Nugs will wait on gallinari being bought out after trade deadline.

Nugs consolidation trades need to be about a long term piece. Don’t need help being a top 3 seed this year.

Post #4 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:49 pm

Coeur wrote:Nugs will wait on gallinari being bought out after trade deadline.

Nugs consolidation trades need to be about a long term piece. Don’t need help being a top 3 seed this year.

What if Gallo's traded to another team? Also, you're getting out of Barton's second year.

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Post #5 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:51 pm

jbk1234 wrote:
Coeur wrote:Nugs will wait on gallinari being bought out after trade deadline.

Nugs consolidation trades need to be about a long term piece. Don’t need help being a top 3 seed this year.
What if Gallo's traded to another team?

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He’s not getting bought out there’s a lot of interest

Post #6 » by **Mamba4Goat** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:19 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
Coeur wrote:Nugs will wait on gallinari being bought out after trade deadline.

Nugs consolidation trades need to be about a long term piece. Don’t need help being a top 3 seed this year.
What if Gallo's traded to another team?

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He’s not getting bought out there’s a lot of interest

Yeah, guys as good as Gallo don't get bought out.

nomansland · Post #7 » by **nomansland** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:30 am

Porter's going to be off the table in 95% of trade scenarios. For a year of Gallo he's definitely not in the mix. I'd throw in a 1st and/or Juancho/Cancar/Vanderbilt though.

Gallo's a good player but he has an injury history, is a rental, and in the end I really don't think it's going to take a whole lot to get him. This could be my post in the eating crow thread but for now I'm sticking with it.

Post #8 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:59 am

If we’re taking Barton I’m looking for a 1st, Juancho, and Bol

SoCalNuggsFan · Post #9 » by **SoCalNuggsFan** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:07 am

Odd that gallo isn’t seen as a bad contract here. I know he’s expiring, but no one wants to pay someone with that injury history 20+ mil a year. I wouldn’t include MPJ in a deal where gallo is the big piece we got back even if it meant getting rid of Barton. Adding in Beasley makes it laughable imo.

Coeur · Post #10 » by **Coeur** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:51 am

Mamba4Goat wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:What if Gallo's traded to another team?

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He’s not getting bought out there’s a lot of interest

Yeah, guys as good as Gallo don't get bought out.

If okc doesn’t trade him you are saying they won’t buy him out after trade deadline?

Coeur · Post #11 » by **Coeur** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:55 am

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:If we’re taking Barton I’m looking for a 1st, Juancho, and Bol

Barton isn’t a bad contract. I doubt your team has enough trade capital for the 4 positive value pieces you’re listing.

Barton got listed as a bad contract because the Nugs are super deep and have 3 guys at the 2/3 coming up for new contracts next year.

Don’t worry about what you’d need to be paid to take Barton. If you’re looking for a bad deal that someone wants to pay out of there are tons of them

Post #12 » by **Mamba4Goat** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:23 am

Coeur wrote:
Mamba4Goat wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
He’s not getting bought out there’s a lot of interest

Yeah, guys as good as Gallo don't get bought out.

If okc doesn’t trade him you are saying they won’t buy him out after trade deadline?

Well, if they tested the market for him, I'm sure he'd fetch plenty. He debatably was the best player on LAC and did amazing last year. Find me a player that's been as good as him that got bought out.

Karmaloop · Post #13 » by **Karmaloop** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:24 am

Coeur wrote:Nugs will wait on gallinari being bought out after trade deadline.

Nugs consolidation trades need to be about a long term piece. Don’t need help being a top 3 seed this year.

I think there's a slightly above non-zero percent chance he gets bought out.

Coeur · Post #14 » by **Coeur** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:28 am

Karmaloop wrote:
Coeur wrote:Nugs will wait on gallinari being bought out after trade deadline.

Nugs consolidation trades need to be about a long term piece. Don’t need help being a top 3 seed this year.

I think there's a slightly above non-zero percent chance he gets bought out.

I’m a math guy but not sure what above non zero percent means

Are you saying it’s a for sure that he gets traded? Or that okc would hold him the whole year even if he isn’t traded?

Post #15 » by **NuggetsWY** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 12:38 pm

No doubt Denver wouldn't object to trading Barton but I seriously doubt they are willing to trade any future potential for any short-term rentals.

Karmaloop · Post #16 » by **Karmaloop** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:41 pm

Coeur wrote:I’m a math guy but not sure what above non zero percent means

Are you saying it’s a for sure that he gets traded? Or that okc would hold him the whole year even if he isn’t traded?

Anything between 0% and 100%, not including 0%. So something like a 0.00001% chance he gets bought out.

Coeur · Post #17 » by **Coeur** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:42 pm

Karmaloop wrote:
Coeur wrote:I’m a math guy but not sure what above non zero percent means

Are you saying it’s a for sure that he gets traded? Or that okc would hold him the whole year even if he isn’t traded?

Anything between 0% and 100%, not including 0%. So something like a 0.00001% chance he gets bought out.

Ridiculous statement

Why do something like that just to avoid answering a question? Are you certain he is traded? You you understand his track record of being injured?

Or are you saying expiring guys like this never get bought out once their team is lottery bound?

Explain something other than your inability to deal with numbers

BadWolf · Post #18 » by **BadWolf** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:30 pm

Gallo doesn't need to be a short term piece, you get bird rights and can sign him longterm, something you'd need cap space for.

Post #19 » by **ThunderBolt** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:31 pm

I’m not really interested in MPJ as any kind of an asset.

Post #20 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:48 pm

Coeur wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:If we’re taking Barton I’m looking for a 1st, Juancho, and Bol

Barton isn’t a bad contract. I doubt your team has enough trade capital for the 4 positive value pieces you’re listing.

Barton got listed as a bad contract because the Nugs are super deep and have 3 guys at the 2/3 coming up for new contracts next year.

Don’t worry about what you’d need to be paid to take Barton. If you’re looking for a bad deal that someone wants to pay out of there are tons of them

That is not why Barton got listed at a bad contract. Barton got listed as a bad contract because he was really inefficient last season and still took 10 shots a game. He's a 28-year old journeyman who is scheduled to make $15M in 2021-22, a year when teams don't want salary on the books. It has nothing to do with Denver's depth.