MIA/WAS/OKC (No CP3)

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Re: MIA/WAS/OKC (No CP3) 

Post#21 » by Hoops23 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:08 am

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To be clear this is 2 picks. You’re getting two back. And the Heat don’t have the assets for Beal without this kind of arrangement. Bam and Herro are nowhere near enough and they can’t trade any other picks without OKC involved.
two picks or four picks, it aint matter. Miami is not going to do that trade. If no deal of Beal to Miami, then be it. Miami will wait by 2021 to get him to avoid giving assets and taking on Walls contract.


And by then Jimmy is 31+ and out of his prime and very few are coming to play with him. There’s a time crunch on the Heat if the idea is maximizing wins.


but if you weigh it out, waiting on Beal out weighs your trade.

If Beal do not sign an extension, the Wiz will be pressured to trade him by 2020-21 season. Getting something in return is better than losing him for nothing.

Lets see how the Wiz hold up. As Beals free agent dates comes near, the pressure becomes bigger by the day.
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Re: MIA/WAS/OKC (No CP3) 

Post#22 » by DoItALL9 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 5:07 pm

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Dat2U wrote:I think Washington fans have said it million times, there's no benefit in lowering Beal's return by forcing a team to take Wall as well. The Wizards do not need max cap space. They are not a free agent destination, they can get full value for Beal separately, rehab Wall's value and perhaps move him in a year or two if necessary.
nate33 wrote:This. A return in a Beal-alone trade is going to be much higher than any return in a Beal+Wall trade. So if the Wizards trade Beal, they'll do so without including Wall. Keeping Wall around for the duration of his contract is not a problem for a team entering a massive rebuild.
Looking at Herro as essentially still a draft pick the Wizards are getting 4 1st round picks for Beal here. Wall is not bringing anything back realistically or in any other trade for awhile.

So what do you two believe Beal will fetch the Wizards in a trade by himself?
And which teams do you believe need him & would do it?


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I don’t believe that.

The Heat have clearly been interested in Wall for some time. When he gets healthy and plays enough to establish his value, Washington can probably work to trade him to Miami straight up and leave Beal out of it.


You don't believe which part in particular?
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Re: MIA/WAS/OKC (No CP3) 

Post#23 » by nate33 » Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:51 pm

Hoops23 wrote:If Beal do not sign an extension, the Wiz will be pressured to trade him by 2020-21 season. Getting something in return is better than losing him for nothing.

Lets see how the Wiz hold up. As Beals free agent dates comes near, the pressure becomes bigger by the day.

This is all true, but there is no pressure to trade Beal to Miami in particular. If the Wizards make it known that Beal is on the market, there will be multiple suitors and the best package will be better than this one.
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Re: MIA/WAS/OKC (No CP3) 

Post#24 » by Hoops23 » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:37 am

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Hoops23 wrote:If Beal do not sign an extension, the Wiz will be pressured to trade him by 2020-21 season. Getting something in return is better than losing him for nothing.

Lets see how the Wiz hold up. As Beals free agent dates comes near, the pressure becomes bigger by the day.

This is all true, but there is no pressure to trade Beal to Miami in particular. If the Wizards make it known that Beal is on the market, there will be multiple suitors and the best package will be better than this one.

Do you also agree that those multiple suitors trading for Beal will hesitate to give up major assets if he doesnt give them a guaranty of a contract extension???

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