Re: Raptors-Spurs-Hornets
Posted: Mon Sep 9, 2019 3:12 am
I don't want DeMar back in Toronto. Time to move on.
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CoachD wrote:Zero desire to trade a 2 way center that was key to a title for Demar and his mid range chucks
CoachD wrote:Any Raptor fan with a brain was aware of what Demar was and wasn't.
The only disrespect came over things like not being ranked in the top 40, but immediately after being traded he's top 25. Literally switching markets increased his quality apparently.
He's a volume chucker who loves the mid range, and depends on pick and rolls, isos and free throws. All the nonsense from last sunmer that Pop was going to turn him into a good defender, was proven to be crap, and Demar just is what he is.
Thanks for memories, but this ship has sailed
21 TD wrote:Typical Raptors fan inferiority complex.
21 TD wrote: If anything, the opposite happened because it's become increasingly fashionable in recent years to slobber over the Raptors and bash or ignore everything Spurs related that isn't Pop.
21 TD wrote:CoachD wrote:Any Raptor fan with a brain was aware of what Demar was and wasn't.
The only disrespect came over things like not being ranked in the top 40, but immediately after being traded he's top 25. Literally switching markets increased his quality apparently.
He's a volume chucker who loves the mid range, and depends on pick and rolls, isos and free throws. All the nonsense from last sunmer that Pop was going to turn him into a good defender, was proven to be crap, and Demar just is what he is.
Thanks for memories, but this ship has sailed
Typical Raptors fan inferiority complex. If anything, the opposite happened because it's become increasingly fashionable in recent years to slobber over the Raptors and bash or ignore everything Spurs related that isn't Pop.
21 TD wrote:CoachD wrote:Any Raptor fan with a brain was aware of what Demar was and wasn't.
The only disrespect came over things like not being ranked in the top 40, but immediately after being traded he's top 25. Literally switching markets increased his quality apparently.
He's a volume chucker who loves the mid range, and depends on pick and rolls, isos and free throws. All the nonsense from last sunmer that Pop was going to turn him into a good defender, was proven to be crap, and Demar just is what he is.
Thanks for memories, but this ship has sailed
Typical Raptors fan inferiority complex. If anything, the opposite happened because it's become increasingly fashionable in recent years to slobber over the Raptors and bash or ignore everything Spurs related that isn't Pop.
CoachD wrote:There's been no slobbering.
All I keep hearing from US based media is how this year's Raps wouldn't even make the playoffs in the West (pure nonsense) and that they ONLY won due to injury. Forget about ALL THE THINGS Toronto did throughout the season to put themselves in that position... it's only because the benchless Warriors had injured players.
21 TD wrote:CoachD wrote:There's been no slobbering.
All I keep hearing from US based media is how this year's Raps wouldn't even make the playoffs in the West (pure nonsense) and that they ONLY won due to injury. Forget about ALL THE THINGS Toronto did throughout the season to put themselves in that position... it's only because the benchless Warriors had injured players.
Even before last season, I'd seen way more Raptors praise in the previous 3-4 years than I ever did for similar good-but-not-true-contenders type stretches this decade, such as the Hawks, Grizzlies, Pacers, Trail Blazers.
Almost everyone has them as a mid-tier playoff team, which in the West would equate to being in a jumble with many who could be anywhere from the equivalent to slightly out, because of the superior depth.
CoachD wrote:21 TD wrote:CoachD wrote:There's been no slobbering.
All I keep hearing from US based media is how this year's Raps wouldn't even make the playoffs in the West (pure nonsense) and that they ONLY won due to injury. Forget about ALL THE THINGS Toronto did throughout the season to put themselves in that position... it's only because the benchless Warriors had injured players.
Even before last season, I'd seen way more Raptors praise in the previous 3-4 years than I ever did for similar good-but-not-true-contenders type stretches this decade, such as the Hawks, Grizzlies, Pacers, Trail Blazers.
Almost everyone has them as a mid-tier playoff team, which in the West would equate to being in a jumble with many who could be anywhere from the equivalent to slightly out, because of the superior depth.
Where on earth did you see that?
All we ever hear from the US media is "ya but this chokes in the playoffs"
The ESPN talking heads would have you believe the Raps had the exact same roster and were swept in the first round every year
All last year... The Bucks, Celtics, Sixers and EVEN the PACERS (without Oladipo) were considered as teams that would to further than Toronto.
21 TD wrote:CoachD wrote:21 TD wrote:
Even before last season, I'd seen way more Raptors praise in the previous 3-4 years than I ever did for similar good-but-not-true-contenders type stretches this decade, such as the Hawks, Grizzlies, Pacers, Trail Blazers.
Almost everyone has them as a mid-tier playoff team, which in the West would equate to being in a jumble with many who could be anywhere from the equivalent to slightly out, because of the superior depth.
Where on earth did you see that?
All we ever hear from the US media is "ya but this chokes in the playoffs"
The ESPN talking heads would have you believe the Raps had the exact same roster and were swept in the first round every year
All last year... The Bucks, Celtics, Sixers and EVEN the PACERS (without Oladipo) were considered as teams that would to further than Toronto.
Virtually everywhere, from TV to online. The organization and city are almost universally praised, yet the fan base continues to pretend otherwise.
So from '14-'18, people were supposed to pretend they had a championship ceiling?
Celtics were the off season consensus, then it was Raptors and Bucks throughout the regular season and finally Bucks (who had looked far more impressive in the playoffs) by the time the ECF commenced.
From the moment the trade happened, I never wavered on the Raptors winning the East.
CoachD wrote:I can literally go on YouTube and post hundreds of links here from ESPN, TNT, NBA TV, etc of the talking heads talking about Toronto.
Less than 1% of them referred to Toronto as threats to win the title.
EVEN WHEN THEY ADVANCED TO THE FINALS, and the Warriors were without KD, they opened as MASSIVE underdogs in Vegas, and the media sentiment was, maybe it goes 6 games, but if KD was healthy it's a sweep.
Yes, everyone gushes about Toronto the city because, and I say this without hyperbole, it's the nicest city in North America. Period. I've been in almost every NBA / MLB / NHL city and lived in 4 major US markets. Toronto kicks the crap out of all of them in terms of city quality.
That's why every year, for 2 weeks in August, this city is FULL of NBA players (that have never been with the Raptors) partying it up.
CoachD wrote:I can literally go on YouTube and post hundreds of links here from ESPN, TNT, NBA TV, etc of the talking heads talking about Toronto.
Less than 1% of them referred to Toronto as threats to win the title.
EVEN WHEN THEY ADVANCED TO THE FINALS, and the Warriors were without KD, they opened as MASSIVE underdogs in Vegas, and the media sentiment was, maybe it goes 6 games, but if KD was healthy it's a sweep.
Yes, everyone gushes about Toronto the city because, and I say this without hyperbole, it's the nicest city in North America. Period. I've been in almost every NBA / MLB / NHL city and lived in 4 major US markets. Toronto kicks the crap out of all of them in terms of city quality.
That's why every year, for 2 weeks in August, this city is FULL of NBA players (that have never been with the Raptors) partying it up.