DeRozan back to the Raps

Laimbeer · Post #1 » by **Laimbeer** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 3:35 pm

DeRozan, Belinelli

for

Ibaka, Powell, FRP

Spurs get a pick and cheaper player under longer control.

The Raps didn't win with DeRozan, but they're a different team now and need someone to help fill a star/scoring void.

dalton749 · Post #2 » by **dalton749** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 3:39 pm

Laimbeer wrote:DeRozan, Belinelli

for

Ibaka, Powell, FRP

Spurs get a pick and cheaper player under longer control.

The Raps didn't win with DeRozan, but they're a different team now and need someone to help fill a star/scoring void.

No they don’t. Siakam is a better player than derozan ever was. He is the replacement.

mademan · Post #3 » by **mademan** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 4:12 pm

I dont want Derozan back. I especially dont want to give up a first and pay him the max he's gonna command in the summer.

Resistance · Post #4 » by **Resistance** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 4:29 pm

Ujiri knows DDR well and Ujiri had all summer to make a trade offer for him. I don't know what could happen to make Ujiri change his mind and decide to trade for DRR over the next few months.

Mykhyn · Post #5 » by **Mykhyn** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 4:29 pm

If Powell can be turned into non bad salary... maybe

Post #6 » by **Morris_Shatford** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 4:50 pm

I like DeRozan;
But I was beyond thrilled to get out from that contract given his performance in his role in Toronto.
I would be in no rush to be the team that has to offer him his next contract.

Laimbeer · Post #7 » by **Laimbeer** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 5:03 pm

dalton749 wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:DeRozan, Belinelli

for

Ibaka, Powell, FRP

Spurs get a pick and cheaper player under longer control.

The Raps didn't win with DeRozan, but they're a different team now and need someone to help fill a star/scoring void.

No they don’t. Siakam is a better player than derozan ever was. He is the replacement.

Agree Siakim is better, but if Siakim continues to blossom he could step up to Kawhi's offensive production while DeRozan backfills for Siakim's offensive production of a year ago.

Keep in mind when DeRozan was around there was no Gasol and Siakim, OG, and VanVleet were lesser players.

Post #8 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 5:07 pm

I get the whole moving on thing but the Raps have glaring holes at SG and SF and they could easily reintegrate DD. But I could also see him being an easy scapegoat when things aren't going great.

mademan · Post #9 » by **mademan** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 5:31 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I get the whole moving on thing but the Raps have glaring holes at SG and SF and they could easily reintegrate DD. But I could also see him being an easy scapegoat when things aren't going great.

Hes gonna want the max and he's probably the biggest name in 2020 FA right now. I dont want to be the team tying up a third of our cap in DD and paying a 1st rounder for that privilege.

Post #10 » by **Duffman100** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 5:43 pm

Nah, I'm not interested in getting Demar back. He plays zero defense...

Post #11 » by **dakomish23** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 5:47 pm

I think he ends up in DET

Post #12 » by **jbk1234** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 6:12 pm

There's a decent amount of evidence that Lowry was more effective without DeRozan. DeRozan needs to go to a team with an offensively challenged PG. The problem is that Suns have Booker while the Clippers have PG and Leonard. Charlotte is a possibility but they'd be crazy to surrender assets for him given where they're at in the rebuild. Maybe the Magic or the Wolves would be willing to do something but the Spurs would have to be willing to take back a matching contract and pick(s). Plus, I suspect the Magic are going to want to see what they have with Fultz before they shake up that roster.

Post #13 » by **Duffman100** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 7:17 pm

jbk1234 wrote:There's a decent amount of evidence that Lowry was more effective without DeRozan. DeRozan needs to go to a team with an offensively challenged PG. The problem is that Suns have Booker while the Clippers have PG and Leonard. Charlotte is a possibility but they'd be crazy to surrender assets for him given where they're at in the rebuild. Maybe the Magic or the Wolves would be willing to do something but the Spurs would have to be willing to take back a matching contract and pick(s). Plus, I suspect the Magic are going to want to see what they have with Fultz before they shake up that roster.

There was a decent amount of evidence that the Raptors as a whole were more effective without Derozan. That Lowry was the true engine and star of the team.

TheProfessor · Post #14 » by **TheProfessor** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 7:35 pm

Ehh, I would roll the dice on it, But the pick should come the other way.

jimmy keys · Post #15 » by **jimmy keys** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 11:17 pm

Laimbeer wrote:DeRozan, Belinelli

for

Ibaka, Powell, FRP

Spurs get a pick and cheaper player under longer control.

The Raps didn't win with DeRozan, but they're a different team now and need someone to help fill a star/scoring void.

I'd consider trading for DeRozan, but not for the deal you propose. These conditions have to be met though.

1. Gotta keep Ibaka.
2. No 1st round picks
3. DeRozan has to be willing to sign a one year extension like Lowry.

Without those 3 conditions I wouldn't do it.

DeRozan for Powell, FVV & Johnson

See how far that team can go had they not made the Kawhi deal. Even then I'd rather look elsewhere.

Post #16 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 11:20 pm

jimmy keys wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:DeRozan, Belinelli

for

Ibaka, Powell, FRP

Spurs get a pick and cheaper player under longer control.

The Raps didn't win with DeRozan, but they're a different team now and need someone to help fill a star/scoring void.

I'd consider trading for DeRozan, but not for the deal you propose. These conditions have to be met though.

1. Gotta keep Ibaka.
2. No 1st round picks
3. DeRozan has to be willing to sign a one year extension like Lowry.

Without those 3 conditions I wouldn't do it.

DeRozan for Powell, FVV & Johnson

See how far that team can go had they not made the Kawhi deal. Even then I'd rather look elsewhere.

Yeah that’s terrible look elsewhere

jimmy keys · Post #17 » by **jimmy keys** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 11:26 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
jimmy keys wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:DeRozan, Belinelli

for

Ibaka, Powell, FRP

Spurs get a pick and cheaper player under longer control.

The Raps didn't win with DeRozan, but they're a different team now and need someone to help fill a star/scoring void.

I'd consider trading for DeRozan, but not for the deal you propose. These conditions have to be met though.

1. Gotta keep Ibaka.
2. No 1st round picks
3. DeRozan has to be willing to sign a one year extension like Lowry.

Without those 3 conditions I wouldn't do it.

DeRozan for Powell, FVV & Johnson

See how far that team can go had they not made the Kawhi deal. Even then I'd rather look elsewhere.

Yeah that’s terrible look elsewhere

is Ibaka that much > than FVV?

Post #18 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Tue Oct 8, 2019 11:32 pm

jimmy keys wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
jimmy keys wrote:
I'd consider trading for DeRozan, but not for the deal you propose. These conditions have to be met though.

1. Gotta keep Ibaka.
2. No 1st round picks
3. DeRozan has to be willing to sign a one year extension like Lowry.

Without those 3 conditions I wouldn't do it.

DeRozan for Powell, FVV & Johnson

See how far that team can go had they not made the Kawhi deal. Even then I'd rather look elsewhere.

Yeah that’s terrible look elsewhere

is Ibaka that much > than FVV?

It’s the extension