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Mavs in
Otto porter jr
Quin cook

Mavs out
Tim hardaway jr
Delon wright
31 overall

Chicago in
28th overall from the lakers
Delon wright
Kentavious Caldwell pope
Javale McGee
31 overall

Chicago out
Otto porter jr

Lakers in
Tim hardaway jr

Lakers out
Kentavious Caldwell pope
Javale McGee
28th overall
Quin cook

Mavs get a better fit on the wing in otto porter jr as well as open up more 21 cap room

Bulls get a solid backup guard option as well as a late first for porter

Lakers add a third guy in tim Hardaway jr that can spread the floor

Pinkyring wrote:Mavs in
Otto porter jr

Mavs out
Tim hardaway jr
Delon wright

Chicago in
28th overall from the lakers
Delon wright
Kentavious Caldwell pope
Javale McGee

Chicago out
Otto porter jr

Lakers in
Tim hardaway jr

Lakers out
Kentavious Caldwell pope
Javale McGee
28th overall

Mavs get a better fit on the wing in otto porter jr as well as open up more 21 cap room

Bulls get a solid backup guard option as well as a late first for porter

Lakers add a third guy in tim Hardaway jr that can spread the floor

I like it ... open a way to send Jackson + Brunson and get Kcp to Dallas.?

Mike lorenzo wrote:

Pinkyring wrote:Mavs in
Otto porter jr

Mavs out
Tim hardaway jr
Delon wright

Chicago in
28th overall from the lakers
Delon wright
Kentavious Caldwell pope
Javale McGee

Chicago out
Otto porter jr

Lakers in
Tim hardaway jr

Lakers out
Kentavious Caldwell pope
Javale McGee
28th overall

Mavs get a better fit on the wing in otto porter jr as well as open up more 21 cap room

Bulls get a solid backup guard option as well as a late first for porter

Lakers add a third guy in tim Hardaway jr that can spread the floor

I like it ... open a way to send Jackson + Brunson and get Kcp to Dallas.?

That deal doesn't take Brunson just jackson

Is that really enough outgoing salary for the Lakers? Also deal feels light for Chicago. I'd add in 31 from Dallas since the team gets to dump Wright's extra year.

Texas Chuck wrote:Is that really enough outgoing salary for the Lakers? Also deal feels light for Chicago. I'd add in 31 from Dallas since the team gets to dump Wright's extra year.

Whoops wasn't enough salary i had a brain freeze revised the op

Chicago already has a shortage of quality small forwards. They pass.

gobullschi wrote:Chicago already has a shortage of quality small forwards. They pass.

pretty sure the idea for Chicago is we aren't competing this year so let's save a little cash and pick up an asset. Pretty typical stuff non-competitive teams try to do.

Not sure if they is a real need for Tim, LAL would cut the Mavs out and take Porter.

Texas Chuck wrote:

gobullschi wrote:Chicago already has a shortage of quality small forwards. They pass.

pretty sure the idea for Chicago is we aren't competing this year so let's save a little cash and pick up an asset. Pretty typical stuff non-competitive teams try to do.

I didn’t say the value wasn’t there. I’m all for the Bulls acquiring as many draft picks as possible, but I think the Bulls new front office is going to want to make a playoff push.

They have 1 other small forward (Chandler Hutchison) on their roster and he hasn’t been able to stay healthy.

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Not sure if they is a real need for Tim, LAL would cut the Mavs out and take Porter.

I could definitely see that--particularly if they say we only worry about the other LA team and we want a guy for Kawhi. OTOH that's now arguably your 4 best players all arguably best at PF(AD should be a center, but he wants to be a PF so...). THJ provides some more balance and obviously less injury risk which might be important on a shallow team.

gobullschi wrote: but I think the Bulls new front office is going to want to make a playoff push.

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Is this something you are hearing? I hadn't heard that but obviously don't follow them as closely as you. Obviously if they are doing that then they will be trading future assets for players themselves because obviously the current roster isn't close to playoff caliber even with the East only being 7 deep in quality at the moment.

That feels like a mistake, but that doesn't mean the team won't make it.

Texas Chuck wrote:

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Not sure if they is a real need for Tim, LAL would cut the Mavs out and take Porter.

I could definitely see that--particularly if they say we only worry about the other LA team and we want a guy for Kawhi. OTOH that's now arguably your 4 best players all arguably best at PF(AD should be a center, but he wants to be a PF so...). THJ provides some more balance and obviously less injury risk which might be important on a shallow team.

Thid doesn't even account for the fact the lakers would also have to add green just to make the money wprk

Texas Chuck wrote:

gobullschi wrote: but I think the Bulls new front office is going to want to make a playoff push.

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Is this something you are hearing? I hadn't heard that but obviously don't follow them as closely as you. Obviously if they are doing that then they will be trading future assets for players themselves because obviously the current roster isn't close to playoff caliber even with the East only being 7 deep in quality at the moment.

That feels like a mistake, but that doesn't mean the team won't make it.

They've been stressing player development. The Bulls had playoff expectations this year, so failing to make the playoffs next season wouldn’t be a good look. The fan base has really fallen off and they were closing down parts of the United Center because it was so empty.

Pinkyring wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:Not sure if they is a real need for Tim, LAL would cut the Mavs out and take Porter.

I could definitely see that--particularly if they say we only worry about the other LA team and we want a guy for Kawhi. OTOH that's now arguably your 4 best players all arguably best at PF(AD should be a center, but he wants to be a PF so...). THJ provides some more balance and obviously less injury risk which might be important on a shallow team.

Thid doesn't even account for the fact the lakers would also have to add green just to make the money wprk

Money works with DG + Bradley - McGee for porter.

I'm personally not one to bet on somebody career shooting year to carry over. KCP has been decently consistent the last 3 years spacing. THJ would be taking SG away minutes from DG while losing KCP PG defense. I don't see the trade as a net positive for the Lakers.

THJ is fine if LAL can get him for the non rotation players plus a first. Would allow them to add the depth.

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:

Pinkyring wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:
I could definitely see that--particularly if they say we only worry about the other LA team and we want a guy for Kawhi. OTOH that's now arguably your 4 best players all arguably best at PF(AD should be a center, but he wants to be a PF so...). THJ provides some more balance and obviously less injury risk which might be important on a shallow team.

Thid doesn't even account for the fact the lakers would also have to add green just to make the money wprk

Money works with DG + Bradley - McGee for porter.

I'm personally not one to bet on somebody career shooting year to carry over. KCP has been decently consistent the last 3 years spacing. THJ would be taking SG away minutes from DG while losing KCP PG defense. I don't see the trade as a net positive for the Lakers.

THJ is fine if LAL can get him for the non rotation players plus a first. Would allow them to add the depth.

U view kcp as a good defender?

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:

Pinkyring wrote:

Texas Chuck wrote:
I could definitely see that--particularly if they say we only worry about the other LA team and we want a guy for Kawhi. OTOH that's now arguably your 4 best players all arguably best at PF(AD should be a center, but he wants to be a PF so...). THJ provides some more balance and obviously less injury risk which might be important on a shallow team.

Thid doesn't even account for the fact the lakers would also have to add green just to make the money wprk

Money works with DG + Bradley - McGee for porter.

I'm personally not one to bet on somebody career shooting year to carry over. KCP has been decently consistent the last 3 years spacing. THJ would be taking SG away minutes from DG while losing KCP PG defense. I don't see the trade as a net positive for the Lakers.

THJ is fine if LAL can get him for the non rotation players plus a first. Would allow them to add the depth.

Yep if I am the Lakers I am just going all the way for Porter or make a move for Schroder with their limited assets before THJ. However if neither of those moves can pan out THJ is not a bad fall back option, but he would easily be my 3rd target here.

Pinkyring wrote:

kobe_vs_jordan wrote:

Pinkyring wrote:Thid doesn't even account for the fact the lakers would also have to add green just to make the money wprk

Money works with DG + Bradley - McGee for porter.

I'm personally not one to bet on somebody career shooting year to carry over. KCP has been decently consistent the last 3 years spacing. THJ would be taking SG away minutes from DG while losing KCP PG defense. I don't see the trade as a net positive for the Lakers.

THJ is fine if LAL can get him for the non rotation players plus a first. Would allow them to add the depth.

U view kcp as a good defender?

Compare to thj? Absolutely.

Like the trade for Chicago, but it looks bad in a vacuum because they would have to make another move to get someone to play SF. Although to be fair, he's only played what, 29 odd games in the last 2 years for the team.

Dont understand why the Lakers are trading all of that to get thj. I get that Dallas doesnt want to sacrifice their assets but its bit one sided and bad for Bulls, Lakers.

I wouldnt mind a deal where thj goes to the Lakers and Danny Green, Delon Wright, 31 to Chicago while OPJ goes to Dallas.

The Bulls are fine with this, if the players cooperate and they can make other deals. The main thing about it is they don't take on extra BIG years in trading Porter.

Hutchison starts at the SF which is a risk with his constant injury history, they likely draft a forward at #4. Wright is a good pickup, solidifies the back court bench with Satoransky.

#28 and #31 when added to #4 and #44 give them too many bodies on the roster. They have qualifying offers for Dunn and Valentine, low cost Harrison, Arcidiacono and Kornet who could be bought out, Young and Felicio who could be traded, oh please let them be traded. Best might be trading #28 and either #31 or #44 for a future FRP.

Next is does KCP take that player option because he sees White and Lavine starting, Satoransky a holdover and Wright getting a new Red uniform, where's his playing time? He's listed at 6-5 he's not likely a SF. Does McGee have a better destination than Chicago and opt out? Because they Bulls just don't need another center unless they can get rid of one.

It's not as easy as it looks