Proposal: Jrue to the Heat for a package centred around Herro

Alonzo_Morning · Post #1 » by **Alonzo_Morning** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:11 pm

Haven't really nutted this out other than the two players mentioned in the title. Maybe throw Olynyk to NO. Don't need salaries matching because of Heat's cap space

Add Jrue to the Heat and you've got two of the top 5 (3?) perimeter defenders in the league on the same team. They'd be instant championship favourites for years to come IMO. Heat have tons of cap space so extending Jrue isn't a problem.

Pels get their starting shooting guard of the future who can grow with the rest of the group.

Big win-win for both clubs IMO

Jordan Syndrome · Post #2 » by **Jordan Syndrome** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:13 pm

How does a team that is on the verge of making the NBA Finals in part because of a 20 year old rookie trade the rookie?

The Heat are already going to be in the running for a Championship for many more years than you are proposing here by simply keeping Herro. I don't think the Heat would trade Herro for any realistic offer at this point, including Zion.

Alonzo_Morning · Post #3 » by **Alonzo_Morning** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:14 pm

Jordan Syndrome wrote:How does a team that is on the verge of making the NBA Finals in part because of a 20 year old rookie trade the rookie?

The Heat are already going to be in the running for a Championship for many more years than you are proposing here by simply keeping Herro. I don't think the Heat would trade Herro for any realistic offer at this point, including Zion at this point.

Because Jrue pushes them over the top to overwhelming championship favourites

Jordan Syndrome · Post #4 » by **Jordan Syndrome** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:18 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Jordan Syndrome wrote:How does a team that is on the verge of making the NBA Finals in part because of a 20 year old rookie trade the rookie?

The Heat are already going to be in the running for a Championship for many more years than you are proposing here by simply keeping Herro. I don't think the Heat would trade Herro for any realistic offer at this point, including Zion at this point.

Because Jrue pushes them over the top to overwhelming championship favourites

I don't even think Holiday makes the team significantly better. Herro has unparalleled synergy and chemistry with the team and provides "elite" spacing on a team that needs the spacing with Jimmy Butler. Holiday can simply bolt after next season.

Why do the Heat need to be "overwhelming championship favorites" when they are 2 games away from the NBA championship? Do you think the Heat care about what the media or feeble fans think of their "favorites"?

Papi_swav · Post #5 » by **Papi_swav** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:21 pm

I would not do this if I was HEAT. Herro is a big part of that team and they may make the finals. Plus heats want to keep their cap space to make a run at Giannis etc.. I love Jrue but this doesn't make sense from heat standpoint. Just send Jrue to the Nets

Alonzo_Morning · Post #6 » by **Alonzo_Morning** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:21 pm

Jordan Syndrome wrote:
Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Jordan Syndrome wrote:How does a team that is on the verge of making the NBA Finals in part because of a 20 year old rookie trade the rookie?

The Heat are already going to be in the running for a Championship for many more years than you are proposing here by simply keeping Herro. I don't think the Heat would trade Herro for any realistic offer at this point, including Zion at this point.

Because Jrue pushes them over the top to overwhelming championship favourites

I don't even think Holiday makes the team significantly better. Herro has unparalleled synergy and chemistry with the team and provides "elite" spacing on a team that needs the spacing with Jimmy Butler. Holiday can simply bolt after next season.

Why do the Heat need to be "overwhelming championship favorites" when they are 2 games away from the NBA championship? Do you think the Heat care about what the media or feeble fans think of their "favorites"?

I meant from a talent point of view, not a media viewpoint. Get a confirmation from Jrue that he's willing to re-sign

Post #7 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:22 pm

At least wait to see where the Heat end up before you start breaking up that team. If for no other reason, that's exactly what the Heat are going to do.

gom · Post #8 » by **gom** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:27 pm

It's more likely for the Heat to keep Herro and resign Dragić. Dragić, Butler, and Bam are the core of the team right now.

ProcessDoctor · Post #9 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:30 pm

Just wait until Jrue opts our next summer.

Post #10 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:33 pm

Yeah more likely Jrue is picked up as a consolation prize in FA if Miami doesn't land a bigger fish than they make a trade for him now.

Alonzo_Morning · Post #11 » by **Alonzo_Morning** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:35 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Yeah more likely Jrue is picked up as a consolation prize in FA if Miami doesn't land a bigger fish than they make a trade for him now.

Pels don't let him walk. Too many teams interested in his services

Jordan Syndrome · Post #12 » by **Jordan Syndrome** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:39 pm

Alonzo_Morning wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:Yeah more likely Jrue is picked up as a consolation prize in FA if Miami doesn't land a bigger fish than they make a trade for him now.

Pels don't let him walk. Too many teams interested in his services

The teams interested in his services then can trade what they want for him. The fact is Holiday is a Free Agent next year and if he wants to win a championship he is going to leave New Orleans.

Alonzo_Morning · Post #13 » by **Alonzo_Morning** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:45 pm

I don't think there has been a better defensive duo ever than if you combined Butler and Jrue

Post #14 » by **BBallFreak** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:20 pm

Not trading Herro for Jrue, and I love Jrue. But we're going to resign Dragic, keep developing Herro, and preserve our cap space...

vxmike · Post #15 » by **vxmike** » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:43 pm

Jordan Syndrome wrote:How does a team that is on the verge of making the NBA Finals in part because of a 20 year old rookie trade the rookie?

The Heat are already going to be in the running for a Championship for many more years than you are proposing here by simply keeping Herro. I don't think the Heat would trade Herro for any realistic offer at this point, including Zion.

Agree. Herro is exceptionally valuable because he has three years left on a rookie deal. Taking on Jrue not only means you lose Herro but you lose a max FA spot next offseason. That’s a horrible trade.

patman66 · Post #16 » by **patman66** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:11 am

Jordan Syndrome wrote:
Alonzo_Morning wrote:
Jordan Syndrome wrote:How does a team that is on the verge of making the NBA Finals in part because of a 20 year old rookie trade the rookie?

The Heat are already going to be in the running for a Championship for many more years than you are proposing here by simply keeping Herro. I don't think the Heat would trade Herro for any realistic offer at this point, including Zion at this point.

Because Jrue pushes them over the top to overwhelming championship favourites

I don't even think Holiday makes the team significantly better. Herro has unparalleled synergy and chemistry with the team and provides "elite" spacing on a team that needs the spacing with Jimmy Butler. Holiday can simply bolt after next season.

Why do the Heat need to be "overwhelming championship favorites" when they are 2 games away from the NBA championship? Do you think the Heat care about what the media or feeble fans think of their "favorites"?

They are two wins away.

Post #17 » by **Texas Chuck** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:38 am

Alonzo_Morning wrote:I don't think there has been a better defensive duo ever than if you combined Butler and Jrue

Just in today's league Ben Simmons and Embiid, Giannis and BroLo. Gobert and Royce.... Let alone all the historical examples.

Mrakar · Post #18 » by **Mrakar** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:55 am

No way Pels can get Herro considering how he is playing right now and how young he is.
I don't think Heat gets better even right now, and let alone in the future with this trade.
No from Heat 100%.

puppa bear · Post #19 » by **puppa bear** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:25 am

Comparing Herro from before the bubble to in the bubble you can see the improvement. A player with his confidence and desire to improve will keep putting himself in a position to get better - next season we’ll see another step.

Given how well he fits with Jimmy & Bam, I see no reason to be rushing the process and trading for a player we may already be online to sign in 2021.

Nunn is the young player that may be on the block, that’s about it.

GatorbaitDD · Post #20 » by **GatorbaitDD** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:03 pm

nope. Jrue's value has gone down, because of his contract situation. Had more value last summer.