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Vuc for 2+Wiggins again (GSW/ORL/MIL/NOP)
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:05 pm
by Godaddycurse
Combining feedback from buzzards thread of vuc to bucks (need better guard/halfcourt play) and the other feedback from vuc for wiggins/2 (gsw need better wing, not center)
GSW trade: wiggins, looney, #2, Minn 2021 1st
GSW receive middleton, brolo (tpe)
Orlando trade: vucevic, ross
Orlando receives: wiggins, #2
Milwaukee trades middleton, bledsoe, brolo
Milwaukee receives: holiday, vucevic, hart, ross
New Orleans trade holiday, hart
New orleans receive looney, bledsoe, minn 2021 1st
Why for gsw: complete their starting lineup with an allstar wing and cost controlled starting C
Why for orlando: start their rebuild
Why for milwaukee: improve guard and center play while getting some good shooters for their wings
Why for NOP: sell holiday for a nice future pick
Re: Vuc for 2+Wiggins again (GSW/ORL/MIL/NOP)
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:51 pm
by trwi7
Breaking up Middleton into lesser parts is always a no. Stop trying it.
Re: Vuc for 2+Wiggins again (GSW/ORL/MIL/NOP)
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:05 pm
by Skybox
I think MIL makes out well. NOLA debatable- as good as Jrue is, they may not really need him and that's a nice pick. ORL- I like, but others may not. GSW is certainly better than they were prior to trade but they are giving up two choice picks-they could maybe do better....If I were GSW, I trade directly with ORL as is, take Vuc and Ross who will both immediately and significantly contribute. Then I look elsewhere with the valuable Minny pick for another solid piece...but good OP...Middleton is very good, not great. Complementary player-not a star on his own, IMO. IMO, GSW looks to grab multiple strong complementary players...Middleton (like Jrue) may reside in that middle ground where he demands a big return but isn't going to lift you like a Beal-level guy.
Re: Vuc for 2+Wiggins again (GSW/ORL/MIL/NOP)
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:14 pm
by gswhoops
Skybox wrote:I think MIL makes out well. NOLA debatable- as good as Jrue is, they may not really need him and that's a nice pick. ORL- I like, but others may not. GSW is certainly better than they were prior to trade but they are giving up two choice picks-they could maybe do better....If I were GSW, I trade directly with ORL as is, take Vuc and Ross who will both immediately and significantly contribute. Then I look elsewhere with the valuable Minny pick for another solid piece...but good OP...Middleton is very good, not great. Complementary player-not a star on his own, IMO. IMO, GSW looks to grab multiple strong complementary players...Middleton (like Jrue) may reside in that middle ground where he demands a big return but isn't going to lift you like a Beal-level guy.
Strongly disagree from a Warriors perspective - I'd MUCH rather have Middleton and BroLo than Vuc and Ross.
Re: Vuc for 2+Wiggins again (GSW/ORL/MIL/NOP)
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:21 pm
by Skybox
gswhoops wrote:Skybox wrote:I think MIL makes out well. NOLA debatable- as good as Jrue is, they may not really need him and that's a nice pick. ORL- I like, but others may not. GSW is certainly better than they were prior to trade but they are giving up two choice picks-they could maybe do better....If I were GSW, I trade directly with ORL as is, take Vuc and Ross who will both immediately and significantly contribute. Then I look elsewhere with the valuable Minny pick for another solid piece...but good OP...Middleton is very good, not great. Complementary player-not a star on his own, IMO. IMO, GSW looks to grab multiple strong complementary players...Middleton (like Jrue) may reside in that middle ground where he demands a big return but isn't going to lift you like a Beal-level guy.
Strongly disagree from a Warriors perspective - I'd MUCH rather have Middleton and BroLo than Vuc and Ross.
In a vacuum, I agree but, IMO the difference is not enough to include that MIN pick as well.
Re: Vuc for 2+Wiggins again (GSW/ORL/MIL/NOP)
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:25 pm
by gswhoops
Skybox wrote:gswhoops wrote:Skybox wrote:I think MIL makes out well. NOLA debatable- as good as Jrue is, they may not really need him and that's a nice pick. ORL- I like, but others may not. GSW is certainly better than they were prior to trade but they are giving up two choice picks-they could maybe do better....If I were GSW, I trade directly with ORL as is, take Vuc and Ross who will both immediately and significantly contribute. Then I look elsewhere with the valuable Minny pick for another solid piece...but good OP...Middleton is very good, not great. Complementary player-not a star on his own, IMO. IMO, GSW looks to grab multiple strong complementary players...Middleton (like Jrue) may reside in that middle ground where he demands a big return but isn't going to lift you like a Beal-level guy.
Strongly disagree from a Warriors perspective - I'd MUCH rather have Middleton and BroLo than Vuc and Ross.
In a vacuum, I agree but, IMO the difference is not enough to include that MIN pick as well.
Yeah sorry, should have been clear - strongly prefer Wiggins/2/MIN 21 for Midd/BroLo to Wiggins/2 for Vuc/Ross, even accounting for the extra cost
Re: Vuc for 2+Wiggins again (GSW/ORL/MIL/NOP)
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:45 pm
by Ducklett
I might be in the minority but I would love to watch the Bucks with Vuc and Ross. I think they would be much better off but I am abnormally low on both Bledsoe and Middleton.