[Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st

Post #1 » by **loserX** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:55 pm

Post #2 » by **Domejandro** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:56 pm

Post #3 » by **loserX** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:57 pm

AFAIK Detroit doesn't have any firsts incoming from other teams, so it's definitely one of their own. Obviously protections are a big deal, so waiting on those...

Post #4 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:57 pm

WHEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeee

Post #5 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:59 pm

So guess this settles the partial guarantee thread from yesterday on Ariza

giberish · Post #6 » by **giberish** » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:59 pm

The protections on that pick make all the difference. If there's any plausible chance of Detroit sending back a top-10 pick it's a horrible deal for Detroit.

Post #7 » by **VCfor3** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:01 am

I'm going to be honest, if that Detroit first has decent protections and becomes 2nds then Houston may have straight up sold #16 to get off Ariza's salary. That's pretty gross.

HornetJail · Post #8 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:01 am

yeah, waiting on protections, but anything short of lottery protection is a stupid move for Detroit, and anything that doesn't guarantee a pick conveying looks terrible for Houston

hugepatsfan · Post #9 » by **hugepatsfan** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:02 am

OMG Fritella is such a POOR

Post #10 » by **Domejandro** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:03 am

I feel like Shams, got sniped on this thread by seconds.

What is awful is that this basically equals Robert Covington and cash for Portland's pick next year and (likely) seconds.

hugepatsfan · Post #11 » by **hugepatsfan** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:04 am

DET been rumored to move up. Could have something to do with that too. Maybe #16 + #7 intrigues someone in the top 5.

HornetJail · Post #12 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:04 am

hugepatsfan wrote:DET been rumored to move up. Could have something to do with that too. Maybe #16 + #7 intrigues someone in the top 5.

If Wiseman is gone, you have my interest at pick #3

Pistons888 · Post #13 » by **Pistons888** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:05 am

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DowJones · Post #14 » by **DowJones** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:06 am

Why buy a team if you don’t have the money to run it? Houston is a disaster now.

Post #15 » by **Domejandro** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:06 am

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I actually am not sure I like these protections for Detroit, this massively hamstrings their flexibility on trading picks. The value is absolutely superb, but the protections on that Draft pick are annoying to navigate around for Detroit.

Post #16 » by **Texas Chuck** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:07 am

okay so this is awful for Houston full stop. Agree with Dome that the loss of flexibility stings a bit for Detroit, but the value is clearly terrific and they shouldn't have big plans anytime soon.

Wild. This off-season is already so wild.

Post #17 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:07 am

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BRB calling up whomever is Houston’s GM rn about a lightly used Horford.

Holy crap...

Post #18 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:09 am

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I actually am not sure I like these protections for Detroit, this massively hamstrings their flexibility on trading picks. The value is absolutely superb, but the protections on that Draft pick are annoying to navigate around for Detroit.

Agreed I hate when teams lock their picks up this long I’d rather give up worse protections.

DetroitDon15 · Post #19 » by **DetroitDon15** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:09 am

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I actually am not sure I like these protections for Detroit, this massively hamstrings their flexibility on trading picks. The value is absolutely superb, but the protections on that Draft pick are annoying to navigate around for Detroit.

A rebuilding team shouldn’t be looking to trade future picks. I’m ok with the deal but hope that if we make the playoffs, the pick moves. I’d hate to give up a future low lotto pick in this type of deal.

Post #20 » by **VCfor3** » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:10 am

DowJones wrote:Why buy a team if you don’t have the money to run it? Houston is a disaster now.

Owner was heavy in COVID-hit businesses. He's riding the struggle bus and kicking out every Houston player he can along the way.

Ariza/16 to Detroit for future protected pick: your take?