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[Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:55 pm
by loserX
[WOJ] Trevor Ariza +16 to Detroit for a future first
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:56 pm
by Domejandro
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:57 pm
by loserX
AFAIK Detroit doesn't have any firsts incoming from other teams, so it's definitely one of their own. Obviously protections are a big deal, so waiting on those...
Re: [WOJ] Trevor Ariza +16 to Detroit for a future first
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:57 pm
by HartfordWhalers
WHEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeee
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:59 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
So guess this settles the partial guarantee thread from yesterday on Ariza
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:59 pm
by giberish
The protections on that pick make all the difference. If there's any plausible chance of Detroit sending back a top-10 pick it's a horrible deal for Detroit.
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:01 am
by VCfor3
I'm going to be honest, if that Detroit first has decent protections and becomes 2nds then Houston may have straight up sold #16 to get off Ariza's salary. That's pretty gross.
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:01 am
by HornetJail
yeah, waiting on protections, but anything short of lottery protection is a stupid move for Detroit, and anything that doesn't guarantee a pick conveying looks terrible for Houston
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:02 am
by hugepatsfan
OMG Fritella is such a POOR
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:03 am
by Domejandro
I feel like Shams, got sniped on this thread by seconds.
What is awful is that this basically equals Robert Covington and cash for Portland's pick next year and (likely) seconds.
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:04 am
by hugepatsfan
DET been rumored to move up. Could have something to do with that too. Maybe #16 + #7 intrigues someone in the top 5.
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:04 am
by HornetJail
hugepatsfan wrote:DET been rumored to move up. Could have something to do with that too. Maybe #16 + #7 intrigues someone in the top 5.
If Wiseman is gone, you have my interest at pick #3
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:05 am
by Pistons888
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:06 am
by DowJones
Why buy a team if you don’t have the money to run it? Houston is a disaster now.
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:06 am
by Domejandro
Pistons888 wrote:[url]
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I actually am not sure I like these protections for Detroit, this massively hamstrings their flexibility on trading picks. The value is absolutely superb, but the protections on that Draft pick are annoying to navigate around for Detroit.
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:07 am
by Texas Chuck
okay so this is awful for Houston full stop. Agree with Dome that the loss of flexibility stings a bit for Detroit, but the value is clearly terrific and they shouldn't have big plans anytime soon.
Wild. This off-season is already so wild.
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:07 am
by MoneyTalks41890
Pistons888 wrote:[url]
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BRB calling up whomever is Houston’s GM rn about a lightly used Horford.
Holy crap...
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:09 am
by MoneyTalks41890
Domejandro wrote:Pistons888 wrote:[url]
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I actually am not sure I like these protections for Detroit, this massively hamstrings their flexibility on trading picks. The value is absolutely superb, but the protections on that Draft pick are annoying to navigate around for Detroit.
Agreed I hate when teams lock their picks up this long I’d rather give up worse protections.
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:09 am
by DetroitDon15
Domejandro wrote:Pistons888 wrote:[url]
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I actually am not sure I like these protections for Detroit, this massively hamstrings their flexibility on trading picks. The value is absolutely superb, but the protections on that Draft pick are annoying to navigate around for Detroit.
A rebuilding team shouldn’t be looking to trade future picks. I’m ok with the deal but hope that if we make the playoffs, the pick moves. I’d hate to give up a future low lotto pick in this type of deal.
Re: [Woj] Rockets trade Ariza, #16 for DET future 1st
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:10 am
by VCfor3
DowJones wrote:Why buy a team if you don’t have the money to run it? Houston is a disaster now.
Owner was heavy in COVID-hit businesses. He's riding the struggle bus and kicking out every Houston player he can along the way.