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Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:38 am
by babyjax13
Toronto trades: Pascal Siakam, Kyle Lowry, Norman Powell
Philadelphia trades: Ben Simmons, Danny Green, Tyrese Maxey, Mike Scott, 2021 PHI 1st
Why Toronto does it: get a young star to build around and recoup some value for guys that may be leaving next season (Lowry/Powell).
Why Philadelphia does it: balance the roster a bit, get two elite players to put around Embiid/Harris and a serviceable 2 guard.

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 12:41 pm
by patman66
that is too much from Philly, and Harris has to play the 4. Why the hell is Philly throwing in a first?

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 2:35 pm
by jbent87
way too much. What's with the over-inflation of 35 year old Lowrys value on here? I would love a Lowry homecoming... as a FA, or trade for expiring's and a protected 1. I'm not giving up Simmons and Maxey for slightly better value than/equal value as Ben Simmons in Siakam, to go along wiith Lowry and nice player Powell. Essentially the Harden package, for Siakam and Lowry. No chance.

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:40 pm
by Parataxis
jbent87 wrote:way too much. What's with the over-inflation of 35 year old Lowrys value on here? I would love a Lowry homecoming... as a FA, or trade for expiring's and a protected 1. I'm not giving up Simmons and Maxey for slightly better value than/equal value as Ben Simmons in Siakam, to go along wiith Lowry and nice player Powell. Essentially the Harden package, for Siakam and Lowry. No chance.


Lowry isn't 35, and as an expiring, his age isn't really relevant regardless.

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:47 pm
by daoneandonly
Harris definitely best at the 4, so I think something would have to give in terms of him and Siakim being on the same roster

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:52 pm
by HartfordWhalers
Parataxis wrote:Lowry isn't 35, and as an expiring, his age isn't really relevant regardless.


If Lowry is just a rental, it lowers his value considerably, no?

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:53 pm
by MessiahUjiri
I think this is actually a lot closer than many people realize, especially after Simmons has already been publicly put out on the block.

Good job.

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:54 pm
by HartfordWhalers
I have Simmons a better fit with Embiid than Siakim, so a simplified Lowry for Green +++ type smaller but still big deal deal would make more sense to me. Again, skipping what the plus plus is, as it has been debated in hundreds of posts (thus the Lowry megathread).

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:54 pm
by HartfordWhalers
MessiahUjiri wrote:I think this is actually a lot closer than many people realize, especially after Simmons has already been publicly put out on the block.

Good job.


Offered for a top 3 player =/= put on the block. Come on now...

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 3:57 pm
by GutUNC
Parataxis wrote:
jbent87 wrote:way too much. What's with the over-inflation of 35 year old Lowrys value on here? I would love a Lowry homecoming... as a FA, or trade for expiring's and a protected 1. I'm not giving up Simmons and Maxey for slightly better value than/equal value as Ben Simmons in Siakam, to go along wiith Lowry and nice player Powell. Essentially the Harden package, for Siakam and Lowry. No chance.


Lowry isn't 35, and as an expiring, his age isn't really relevant regardless.


While it's a semantical point, he'll be 35 when the playoffs come around and since the only way this deal makes sense for the Sixers is if they plan to re-sign him, his age does become relevant.

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:11 pm
by Parataxis
HartfordWhalers wrote:
Parataxis wrote:Lowry isn't 35, and as an expiring, his age isn't really relevant regardless.


If Lowry is just a rental, it lowers his value considerably, no?


Lowry's value is what it is because he's potentially a rental, absolutely. If he was signed to a five year contract, his value would be different. (And if he had a five year contract, his age would be relevant)

But anybody trading for him now, is trading him for the help he can provide this year. As with any player, anything past their UFA years is never guaranteed.

Re: Siakam, Lowry and Powell to Philly

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:18 pm
by youngcrev
I think there's a much simpler deal to be had for Lowry without muddying the waters with a Simmons/Pascal swap.