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T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:04 pm
by Dr Positivity
2018 list1. Russell Westbrook (3 years, 132.7 million, includes 3rd year 47.1 million player option)2. Klay Thompson (4 years, 157.2 million)3. John Wall (3 years, 133 million, includes 3rd year 47.4 million player option)4. Kevin Love (3 years, 91.5 million)5. Blake Griffin (2 years, 75.8 million, includes 2nd year 39.0 million player option)6. D'Angelo Russell (3 years, 90.3 million)7. Andrew Wiggins (3 years, 94.7 million)Please vote for the #8
lowest trade value player taking into account salary, age, health, etc. and not just their caliber of play. In addition please nominate a player to replace them on the list.
Nominees:
Al Horford (2 years, 54.5 million, plus 26.5 million 3rd year with 12 million guaranteed)
Draymond Green (4 years, 99.6 million, includes 4th year 27.6 million player option)
Tobias Harris (4 years, 147.3 million)
Davis Bertans (5 years, 80 million, includes 16 million 5th year early termination option, only 5 million guaranteed final year if plays less than 75% of games in 4th season)
Kemba Walker (3 years, 108 million, includes 37.6 million 3rd year player option)
Marcus Morris (4 years, 64 million)
Buddy Hield (4 years, 87.2 million)
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:08 pm
by FutureKnicksGM
V: Horford
N: E Gordon
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:08 pm
by Dr Positivity
I think Draymond contract is worse than Horford cause of the length. Tempted by Bertans but he is a shooter. Likewise I see more interest in Walker bouncing back than Green.
Vote Draymond
Nominate Eric Gordon
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:09 pm
by gswhoops
V: Horford
N: Porzingis
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:13 pm
by Wolveswin
Horford
Hayward
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:22 pm
by HornetJail
Vote: Harris (he's having a great year, but I'm not touching that contract with any length of pole)
Nominate: Eric Gordon
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:34 pm
by gswhoops
CBA question re: Horford. Can OKC (or whoever ends up with him) stretch-waive the $12M gtd on his last year?
i.e., can they turn his deal into 27/27/4/4/4 instead of 27/27/12
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:41 pm
by loserX
gswhoops wrote:CBA question re: Horford. Can OKC (or whoever ends up with him) stretch-waive the $12M gtd on his last year?
i.e., can they turn his deal into 27/27/4/4/4 instead of 27/27/12
Yes...in 2022.
If you're asking whether they can do that *now*, no. They would have to stretch all of the remaining salary evenly over double the number of remaining years, plus one.
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:41 pm
by shrink
This is where I think it gets much harder, with those seven off the board.
V: Draymond
I can see the argument for Horford, but I agree with Dr Positivity, and I’m worried about Draymond four years out.
Al Horford (2 years, 54.5 million, plus 26.5 million 3rd year with 12 million guaranteed)
Draymond Green (4 years, 99.6 million, includes 4th year 27.6 million player option)
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:42 pm
by Knickfan1982
V:Tobias Harris (good player but that's just waaaaaaaaaay too much money for someone who isn't a perennial MVP candidate)
N: Dennis Smith Jr (G-leaguer earning NBA money)
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:48 pm
by gswhoops
shrink wrote:This is where I think it gets much harder, with those seven off the board.
Agreed. Personally I'd rather rate a good player making way too much (Tobi or Kemba) as less-negative than a bad player making way too much (Horford) even if the delta between $ and production is the same but it's a matter of opinion.
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:53 pm
by slick21
V: Draymond
N: Porzingis
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:54 pm
by Coxy
V Horford
N Eric Gordon
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 9:57 pm
by K_chile22
Vote for Harris. He's having a bounce back season, but 4 years at that number is a big ole yikes.
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 10:03 pm
by FNQ
FNQ wrote:Vote: Draymond Green - with the league the way it is, its tougher and tougher to get close to 0 pts from the PF position, as the C position doesnt have a ton of scorers either. I dont know what we'd get if we put him on the market, there'd just be so few buyers and that contract is so long. Would also note that if Draymond moved to a team that relied less on defensive switching, you'd be losing a decent chunk of his defensive value as well.
Nominate: Porzingis
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 10:16 pm
by Magic_Johnny12
V: Draymond
N: Porzingis
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 10:20 pm
by Catchall
Vote for Draymond here. Too many years remaining for a player who has declined.
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 10:33 pm
by WICKED17
Vote... Draymond
Nominate... Gobert
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Fri Feb 5, 2021 11:01 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
I think this entire list has the ability to look silly if these players' performance moves up or down, but I'm going Kemba here. He's shooting 37/30 on the season so far.
Horford, on the other hand, has been playing well.
Re: T&T board top 10 worst contracts - Vote for #8!
Posted: Sat Feb 6, 2021 12:04 am
by wolves_89
Vote Draymond Green
Nominate Eric Gordon