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Aaron Gordon has finally forced the Magic's hand to trade him, and in doing so becomes the first domino to trigger a franchise shake up!



MIN gets: Aaron Gordon / Cole Anthony

ORL gets: Jaylen Nowell / Jaden McDaniels / Scraps for salary matching (Juancho Hernangomez, Ed Davis, Jake Layman)

Minnesota is able to get Gordon without having to give up their new breakout star in Malik Beasley. Beasley's emergence allows MIN to rethink things and desire to rebalance their assets instead of face troubles over playing time. Not only are they able to get Gordon, but they also get Cole Anthony to give them new youth at PG. Gordon is a nice fit for Minnesota as he doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. His ball facilitation, tough defense, hustle and ability to be an X factor on offense alongside Minnesota's scorers makes him an ideal acquisition. Cole Anthony was picked higher than McDaniels in the same draft and was off to a fast start for a rookie before getting hurt. Rubio is old, so getting Gordon is not the only nice pick up.

Orlando is looking for a young player and a draft pick for Gordon alone. Nowell and McDaniels are both young players which is close to the same thing. Magic front office love wingspan, so McDaniels is a natural target. However, Minnesota wants to play hard ball here as they are reluctant to give up 2 young players for Gordon. So they force the Magic to give up Anthony and send back unwanted salary in Hernangomez and Lyman. Magic counter by saying they'll need a pick, and the T-Wolves budge...but only if it's a highly protected pick that could turn into 2 2nds. In a fun side thought, the Magic are also hoping to speed up chemistry by bringing in 2 Washington Huskies to join fellow alums, Markelle Fultz and Terrence Ross... and they may not be done just yet...

I don't think Minnesota will trade for him. They stink right now, and from all indications Gordon doesn't want to go to a bad team. You may say that it's not for him to decide... fair enough. However, he simply has to state that there is no chance in hell he'll resign in Minnesota and then there's just no real reason for them to give up assets for him. Gordon is not a star, and isn't worth the inherent risk for a franchise like Minnesota.

Roy The Natural wrote:I don't think Minnesota will trade for him. They stink right now, and from all indications Gordon doesn't want to go to a bad team. You may say that it's not for him to decide... fair enough. However, he simply has to state that there is no chance in hell he'll resign in Minnesota and then there's just no real reason for them to give up assets for him. Gordon is not a star, and isn't worth the inherent risk for a franchise like Minnesota.

Minnesota seems to want him. Gordon wants to feel wanted and Minnesota has way more talent than Orlando. With Russell, Edwards, Beasley, Gordon and Towns that's a nice young core for him to grow with. He may not be a star, but Minny is not giving up a star to get him.

The earliest 1st Minnesota can offer is actually 2024 because keeping their pick this year means they lose 2022 unprotected. That's just too far down the road for Orlando if they give up Anthony as well.

Would Orlando be interested in the rights to Leandro Bolmaro?

Why would the Magic trade Cole Anthony when Fultz will be out at least half of next season...

I wouldn’t trade for Aaron Gordon myself, but I will say that I think his perceived value is comparable to this package. You’ve done your homework plucking Jaden McDaniels and Jaylen Nowell, and you’ll probably hear from many Wolves fans who wouldn’t consider trading them. I wouldn’t either, but I appreciate the effort here to try to make a trade that’s fair to both sides.

I would say that structurally, I doubt ORL can handle a 2-for-5 trade. While I wouldn’t mind moving the salaries of Juancho, Ed Davis and Layman, it’s probably more realistic to add in a third team here, that takes Rubio or Beasley, and sends ORL one larger contract with the two prospects. For example, when I saw the news that the Clippers had interest in Rubio to take ball handling pressure off of Paul George, I struggled to come up with a way for hardcapped LAC to reach Ricky’s salary. Beverley, Patterson and Oturu barely get there, but it’d make a better trade for ORL in a three way, where ORL takes PBev rather than three MIN players.

Lastly, I can’t see MIN dealing a future 1st. That value has to come from a prospect.

I’d say no, but I think this is a good effort.

The best offer I have seen is an AG/Beasley swap with ORL taking back a contract to get MN out from under the LUX. I would rather keep Nowell and McDaniels, I understand why people want them, but I have them pretty much untouchable, for average players like Gordon anyways. Nowell and McDaniels are core pieces and I think our FO is stoked to have them looking at skill, age, trajectory and contract and frankly I am not sure that both those players have more value to some teams over Gordon, MN being one of them.

I think McDaniels is almost untouchable for the Wolves, and a future 1st would be hard to get as well. I'd pass on the proposed deal for Minnesota.

not sure magic would have intrest in this no real piece...magic have 2 young pf that need min in ji and okeke..and 7 of top 10 prospects in draft are guards...then what looks like to bla 2nds yrs away...i dont see value?

kingcong95 wrote:The earliest 1st Minnesota can offer is actually 2024 because keeping their pick this year means they lose 2022 unprotected. That's just too far down the road for Orlando if they give up Anthony as well.

Would Orlando be interested in the rights to Leandro Bolmaro?

I'd be fine taking out the pick altogether. Don't need Bolmaro.

Ducklett wrote:Why would the Magic trade Cole Anthony when Fultz will be out at least half of next season...

Gotta give to get.. and Nowell could find some time at PG.

shrink wrote:I wouldn’t trade for Aaron Gordon myself, but I will say that I think his perceived value is comparable to this package. You’ve done your homework plucking Jaden McDaniels and Jaylen Nowell, and you’ll probably hear from many Wolves fans who wouldn’t consider trading them. I wouldn’t either, but I appreciate the effort here to try to make a trade that’s fair to both sides.

I would say that structurally, I doubt ORL can handle a 2-for-5 trade. While I wouldn’t mind moving the salaries of Juancho, Ed Davis and Layman, it’s probably more realistic to add in a third team here, that takes Rubio or Beasley, and sends ORL one larger contract with the two prospects. For example, when I saw the news that the Clippers had interest in Rubio to take ball handling pressure off of Paul George, I struggled to come up with a way for hardcapped LAC to reach Ricky’s salary. Beverley, Patterson and Oturu barely get there, but it’d make a better trade for ORL in a three way, where ORL takes PBev rather than three MIN players.

Lastly, I can’t see MIN dealing a future 1st. That value has to come from a prospect.

I’d say no, but I think this is a good effort.

Does taking out the future 1st change your mind to a yes?

SO_MONEY wrote:The best offer I have seen is an AG/Beasley swap with ORL taking back a contract to get MN out from under the LUX. I would rather keep Nowell and McDaniels, I understand why people want them, but I have them pretty much untouchable, for average players like Gordon anyways. Nowell and McDaniels are core pieces and I think our FO is stoked to have them looking at skill, age, trajectory and contract and frankly I am not sure that both those players have more value to some teams over Gordon, MN being one of them.

What do Wolves fans like about Nowell and McDaniels that they would rather give up Beasley?

wolves_89 wrote:I think McDaniels is almost untouchable for the Wolves, and a future 1st would be hard to get as well. I'd pass on the proposed deal for Minnesota.

Do you project McDaniels as a PF or SF?

If in ORL, I would hope they develop him as a SF. But is that the wrong idea?

Skin wrote:

SO_MONEY wrote:The best offer I have seen is an AG/Beasley swap with ORL taking back a contract to get MN out from under the LUX. I would rather keep Nowell and McDaniels, I understand why people want them, but I have them pretty much untouchable, for average players like Gordon anyways. Nowell and McDaniels are core pieces and I think our FO is stoked to have them looking at skill, age, trajectory and contract and frankly I am not sure that both those players have more value to some teams over Gordon, MN being one of them.

What do Wolves fans like about Nowell and McDaniels that they would rather give up Beasley?

1. They look like they both are going to be very good...and

2. They are really cheap and with how our roster is the cheap long-term production gives us more abllity to avoid the LUX.

orlando_joe wrote:not sure magic would have intrest in this no real piece...magic have 2 young pf that need min in ji and okeke..and 7 of top 10 prospects in draft are guards...then what looks like to bla 2nds yrs away...i dont see value?

Let's see how Minny fans respond. Nowell isn't a PF and I don't see McDaniels as PF either. Maybe in small ball for JM, but still don't love it. He loses his size advantage at PF, where at SF he has the chance to develop into something if he raises his scoring efficiency, shot selection, IQ, passing, etc.

Skin wrote:

wolves_89 wrote:I think McDaniels is almost untouchable for the Wolves, and a future 1st would be hard to get as well. I'd pass on the proposed deal for Minnesota.

Do you project McDaniels as a PF or SF?

If in ORL, I would hope they develop him as a SF. But is that the wrong idea?

No. Right idea, but I don't think MN will trade him.

SO_MONEY wrote:

Skin wrote:

wolves_89 wrote:I think McDaniels is almost untouchable for the Wolves, and a future 1st would be hard to get as well. I'd pass on the proposed deal for Minnesota.

Do you project McDaniels as a PF or SF?

If in ORL, I would hope they develop him as a SF. But is that the wrong idea?

No. Right idea, but I don't think MN will trade him.

So what is JM's path to starting minutes at SF?

Skin wrote:

SO_MONEY wrote:

Skin wrote:Do you project McDaniels as a PF or SF?

If in ORL, I would hope they develop him as a SF. But is that the wrong idea?

No. Right idea, but I don't think MN will trade him.

So what is JM's path to starting minutes at SF?

Probably getting past the trade deadline and trading guys we are "showcasing"...he is a rookie, so maybe not, but a lot of us think he should be.

SO_MONEY wrote:

Skin wrote:

SO_MONEY wrote:
No. Right idea, but I don't think MN will trade him.

So what is JM's path to starting minutes at SF?

Probably getting past the trade deadline and trading guys we are "showcasing"...he is a rookie, so maybe not, but a lot of us think he should be.

So future thinking.... Beasley out at SG, Edwards in at SG and McDaniels at SF? Nowell remains blocked?