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Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:41 pm
by bondom34
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Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 6:49 pm
by loserX
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I feel confused. There's 6 hours of free agency and *then* the moratorium starts? I'm obviously tired so I'm missing something.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 7:57 pm
by Scoot McGroot
loserX wrote:
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I feel confused. There's 6 hours of free agency and *then* the moratorium starts? I'm obviously tired so I'm missing something.


Tampering period starts before the moratorium, and signings can start after the moratorium ends. It reads weird, but it’s generally the same. The moratorium also has other transaction lockup’s, not just free agency.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 1:29 am
by NYG
I have a random question...

The postponed Covid games... when are the going to be played or are they just skipped over?

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 2:40 am
by Scoot McGroot
NYG wrote:I have a random question...

The postponed Covid games... when are the going to be played or are they just skipped over?


They’re being made up as we go. Indy made up two postponed Covid games in the last week.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2021 5:25 pm
by loserX
Austin Rivers to Denver on a 10-day.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 4:22 am
by Texas Chuck
Remember when Blake Griffin, LMA and Andre Drummond getting a buyout wrecked the league?

Yeah me either.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:40 am
by cl2117
Texas Chuck wrote:Remember when Blake Griffin, LMA and Andre Drummond getting a buyout wrecked the league?

Yeah me either.

Blake's averaging 9/5 on 60% TS.

LMA played only 5 games because of heart condition, but was averaging 13/5 on 60% TS.

Drummond has been an unmitigated disaster and is still a free double double 11/10.

Still way better production than the normal scrubs available

*Same goes for what C's have gotten outta Jabari Parker to a lesser extent.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 9:44 am
by Devilanche
cl2117 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:Remember when Blake Griffin, LMA and Andre Drummond getting a buyout wrecked the league?

Yeah me either.

Blake's averaging 9/5 on 60% TS.

LMA played only 5 games because of heart condition, but was averaging 13/5 on 60% TS.

Drummond has been an unmitigated disaster and is still a free double double 11/10.

Still way better production than the normal scrubs available

*Same goes for what C's have gotten outta Jabari Parker to a lesser extent.


Yeap, at their price , any production is a win .

The either displace less useful player out of the rotation or they soak up minutes that maybe would keep some better rotational players fresher for the playoff.

Don’t think anyone of them will be the reason their team win a playoff game though.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:10 pm
by loserX
Couple of uates, people may already know:

- Clippers sign Boogie Cousins until the end of the season
- Kings sign Damian Jones to a multi-year deal, waive Chris Silva

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:15 pm
by Mamba4Goat
It’s been a minute since I’ve thrown a vague outline of a trade out on here so I may be rusty but...how far off is something around a Winslow+Tillman for Bagley type of trade? Minor salary filler/balancing may be me needed. (This counts as a general thought right?)

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2021 11:40 pm
by VCfor3
Mamba4Goat wrote:It’s been a minute since I’ve thrown a vague outline of a trade out on here so I may be rusty but...how far off is something around a Winslow+Tillman for Bagley type of trade? Minor salary filler/balancing may be me needed. (This counts as a general thought right?)

Honestly it seems fair to me. Tillman has been very good this year and has outplayed Bagley, but Bagley without question has the higher ceiling so could be worth the gamble for Memphis. Tillman would be cost controlled and lack Bagley's injury history while being the same age so could entice SAC if they don't think they can retain Holmes at a reasonable price. Winslow would be an expiring deal and would let the Kings take a look at a young guy who, if healthy, can maybe be a quality rotation piece. Winslow is still looking rusty offensively (or could just be bad lol), but he has had some good defensive games for us so may be worth a look for the Kings. Could easily see both teams saying no though SAC is probably more likely to say no since they'd be giving up on their #2 pick, but the value feels mostly ok.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 1:48 am
by Texas Chuck
If I'm Memphis I'd just decline Winslow and keep Tillman and have more financial flexibility. I don't have either Winslow or Bagley worth their salary to Memphis.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:57 pm
by kalenclayton
The Kings signed Chimezie Metu to a multi-year deal and the Raptors signed Freddie Gillespie to a two-year deal.

I like both signings. I’m genuinely curious why the Spurs let Metu go. Was he just not getting it over there? He’s really starting to show he belongs in the NBA.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 10:06 pm
by blind prophet
kalenclayton wrote:The Kings signed Chimezie Metu to a multi-year deal and the Raptors signed Freddie Gillespie to a two-year deal.

I like both signings. I’m genuinely curious why the Spurs let Metu go. Was he just not getting it over there? He’s really starting to show he belongs in the NBA.


Meh on Metu. But 2 years of non guarantee?

Why not?

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:07 pm
by kalenclayton
blind prophet wrote:
kalenclayton wrote:The Kings signed Chimezie Metu to a multi-year deal and the Raptors signed Freddie Gillespie to a two-year deal.

I like both signings. I’m genuinely curious why the Spurs let Metu go. Was he just not getting it over there? He’s really starting to show he belongs in the NBA.


Meh on Metu. But 2 years of non guarantee?

Why not?

I think he has a skill set with a trajectory that should make him a comfortable 10th man on a lot of teams. He just has to iron out a few kinks. I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him. I’ve seen too many people on social media hyping him up past 10th man status and I think it speaks to just how bad the Kings bench has been all year.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:51 pm
by NYG
Texas Chuck wrote:If I'm Memphis I'd just decline Winslow and keep Tillman and have more financial flexibility. I don't have either Winslow or Bagley worth their salary to Memphis.


One thing I wonder... what is Justise Winslow's 2021-22 salary if the Grizzlies let him go?

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:02 am
by psman2
NYG wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:If I'm Memphis I'd just decline Winslow and keep Tillman and have more financial flexibility. I don't have either Winslow or Bagley worth their salary to Memphis.


One thing I wonder... what is Justise Winslow's 2021-22 salary if the Grizzlies let him go?


0 from Grizz. However I could see a scenario where we decline the option but give him a 2/20 deal. Lowers his salary next year but locks in another year of guaranteed money, this would free up 3m for Memphis and gives us a longer look at him if the front office still believes in him.

I think he could get anything from the TMLE to the MLE still on the open market. He may rather take a one year deal somewhere if he still believes in himself to gamble on a bigger pay day down the road.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:08 am
by NYG
psman2 wrote:
NYG wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:If I'm Memphis I'd just decline Winslow and keep Tillman and have more financial flexibility. I don't have either Winslow or Bagley worth their salary to Memphis.


One thing I wonder... what is Justise Winslow's 2021-22 salary if the Grizzlies let him go?


0 from Grizz. However I could see a scenario where we decline the option but give him a 2/20 deal. Lowers his salary next year but locks in another year of guaranteed money, this would free up 3m for Memphis and gives us a longer look at him if the front office still believes in him.

I think he could get anything from the TMLE to the MLE still on the open market. He may rather take a one year deal somewhere if he still believes in himself to gamble on a bigger pay day down the road.


Yeah like a Tax MLE with Golden State to boost his value for a season.

Re: Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 3.0

Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 11:22 pm
by bondom34
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Huh.