Wood the Wizard (Hou-Was trade)
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Wood the Wizard (Hou-Was trade)
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Wood the Wizard (Hou-Was trade)
Assuming the wizards make the playoffs and get the 15th pick:
Wizards out:
Thomas Bryant
Lower protections on owed 2023 pick to top-8, top-5, top-5, top-5, 2 2nds
Pick #15
Rockets out:
Christian Wood
Pick #24
Wizards get a big upgrade on Bryant, especially after gafford showed how badly they needed a good roll man, of which wood is amongst the best.
Rockets sell on Wood since he'll probably leave after his deal because this team stinks
Edit: goofed and meant pick number 15 not 14, fixed it
Wizards out:
Thomas Bryant
Lower protections on owed 2023 pick to top-8, top-5, top-5, top-5, 2 2nds
Pick #15
Rockets out:
Christian Wood
Pick #24
Wizards get a big upgrade on Bryant, especially after gafford showed how badly they needed a good roll man, of which wood is amongst the best.
Rockets sell on Wood since he'll probably leave after his deal because this team stinks
Edit: goofed and meant pick number 15 not 14, fixed it
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I don't hate the idea, but it feels like the Wizards would also need to make another trade for a defensive wing if they are pushing even more assets into this mix. And probably want to get Beal locked up first.
For the Rockets I'd want to route Bryant to the Kings or Hornets or somebody for another small asset, but that can be separate obviously.
For the Rockets I'd want to route Bryant to the Kings or Hornets or somebody for another small asset, but that can be separate obviously.
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The Wizards should be all over this. They've got to add Hutchinson to stay out of the tax, and maybe there's some quibbling about the lowering of those protections, but the current version of Westbrook, Beal, plus Wood, and any internal growth from Deni/Rui, probably makes Beal a lifer in D.C. It's certainly their best chance at such an outcome.
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Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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jbk1234 wrote:The Wizards should be all over this. They've got to add Hutchinson to stay out of the tax, and maybe there's some quibbling about the lowering of those protections, but the current version of Westbrook, Beal, plus Wood, and any internal growth from Deni/Rui, probably makes Beal a lifer in D.C. It's certainly their best chance at such an outcome.
Was my thinking as well. Imagine rockets wouldn't mind taking on hutchinson, just haven't paid attention to him at all so i didn't know how he was playing for the wiz. think they'd be able to fill out on minimums and have about $6M in space under the tax to try to use some of the MLE on a wing if they sent out hutchinson
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Wiz fan here, why would Houston do this? I'm just curious. B/c the offer is a young prospect, this year's pick plus LOWERING protections on the '23 pick. I think the late lotto pick would be enough to extinguish the '23 pick at the very least.
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Rafael122 wrote:I think the late lotto pick would be enough to extinguish the '23 pick at the very least.
Sorry, I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say here?
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K_chile22 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:I think the late lotto pick would be enough to extinguish the '23 pick at the very least.
Sorry, I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say here?
Like in exchange for the 15th pick, the protections on the 2023 pick should go away, meaning it would just convey into two future second round picks. Young prospect plus a late lottery pick plus lowering protections on a pick are a lot for someone like Christian Wood if we're being honest lol.
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Ehhh. Maybe, though I might pass. Im not convinced the Wood is better than Bryant. Better defensive tools, but the emergence of Gafford has made those issues less glaring when Bryant returns.
The real back breaker is the change of protection though. Thats a real risk to go from top 14/12 protection to 8/5.
I also love the 13-17 range of this draft class. Wagner, Bouknight, Springer, Butler, Giddey, Duarte, Jackson... Once you get in the mid 20's, my two favorites would probably be Queta and Filip, but doubt you go that route with the trade for Wood and Gafford.
I think the Wiz stay the course and look at the deadline for any trade when they get a better feel for Rui, Bryant, and Deni along with Beal's plans.
The real back breaker is the change of protection though. Thats a real risk to go from top 14/12 protection to 8/5.
I also love the 13-17 range of this draft class. Wagner, Bouknight, Springer, Butler, Giddey, Duarte, Jackson... Once you get in the mid 20's, my two favorites would probably be Queta and Filip, but doubt you go that route with the trade for Wood and Gafford.
I think the Wiz stay the course and look at the deadline for any trade when they get a better feel for Rui, Bryant, and Deni along with Beal's plans.
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Rafael122 wrote:K_chile22 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:I think the late lotto pick would be enough to extinguish the '23 pick at the very least.
Sorry, I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say here?
Like in exchange for the 15th pick, the protections on the 2023 pick should go away, meaning it would just convey into two future second round picks. Young prospect plus a late lottery pick plus lowering protections on a pick are a lot for someone like Christian Wood if we're being honest lol.
absolutely not lol the rockets are also moving 24 here and Bryant likely has little value around the league. That's essentially the rockets trading 24, another potential first, wood, to move up 9 spots and get a solid player coming off a bad injury. Don't think I'd even do that without wood involved since that pick owed to the rockets will be at absolute worst 38+ another good second, and at best #9
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Rafael122 wrote:K_chile22 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:I think the late lotto pick would be enough to extinguish the '23 pick at the very least.
Sorry, I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say here?
Like in exchange for the 15th pick, the protections on the 2023 pick should go away, meaning it would just convey into two future second round picks. Young prospect plus a late lottery pick plus lowering protections on a pick are a lot for someone like Christian Wood if we're being honest lol.
You're getting a first back and Bryant does not have the trade value, particularly after having missed an entire season, that Wizards fans ascribe to him. If the Wizards don't want to surrender market value for Wood, I actually think this is light, then I'm sure there's a long line of teams who would gladly do so.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
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Rafael122 wrote:K_chile22 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:I think the late lotto pick would be enough to extinguish the '23 pick at the very least.
Sorry, I'm not sure I follow what you're trying to say here?
Like in exchange for the 15th pick, the protections on the 2023 pick should go away, meaning it would just convey into two future second round picks. Young prospect plus a late lottery pick plus lowering protections on a pick are a lot for someone like Christian Wood if we're being honest lol.
You'd not get back the 24, either? Because, it's already a little greedy to get back the entirety of the 2023 1st, along with Wood, all for just Bryant coming off an ACL and a probably non-lotto 1st. If someone would pay a premium for Bryant coming off his injury, and expiring, that should probably happen, and then we could re-assess from there.
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I'm impressed with the creativity of the trade idea in the OP - lowering the trade protection on a pick that was already traded to Houston. I like Wood a lot - thought it was bizarre how long it took for an NBA team to sign him, and then he was still let go. He'd be a very interesting target for Washington - playing with Gafford.
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