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Portland & Orlando 

Post#1 » by OrlMagic05 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:58 pm

Keep it simple.

Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)

Portland trades- Damien Lillard

Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.

Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.

Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter
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Post#2 » by BK_2020 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:00 pm

This is a pretty good trade for Orlando.
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Post#3 » by Malapropism » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:01 pm

Portland never picks up the phone ever again for Orlando callers after receiving this offer.
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Post#4 » by MoneyTalks41890 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:04 pm

What I think an actual Orlando offer could look like:

Harris, Bamba, Anthony, RJ, 3, 8, 2023 Chicago 1st, 2023 Orlando 1st, 2025 Orlando 1st, 2025 Denver 1st
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Post#5 » by The Graduate » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:06 pm

Yeah, don't want to pile on, but this really misses the mark for Portland fans. It's missing at least three more future first-round picks to even begin negotiations (and it would possibly take a lot more to actually complete a deal).

Also, the Blazers only trade Dame if he wants out, and I don't think Orlando is making his list. If I'm Orlando, I keep building organically with youth anyway; there is no need to rush the timeline.
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Post#6 » by Xman » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:08 pm

Not near enough for Portland.
#2, #8, Bamba, Fultz, Harris is closer.
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Post#7 » by JRoy » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:13 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:Keep it simple.

Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)

Portland trades- Damien Lillard

Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.

Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.

Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter


Hard pass for POR.

Not trading Lillard for a handful of crap and a pick.
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Post#8 » by OrlMagic05 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:14 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:What I think an actual Orlando offer could look like:

Harris, Bamba, Anthony, RJ, 3, 8, 2023 Chicago 1st, 2023 Orlando 1st, 2025 Orlando 1st, 2025 Denver 1st


If Lillard was 25 yes. You do not get this much value typically and this is a HARD pass.
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Post#9 » by OrlMagic05 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:18 pm

JRoy wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:Keep it simple.

Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)

Portland trades- Damien Lillard

Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.

Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.

Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter


Hard pass for POR.

Not trading Lillard for a handful of crap and a pick.


Could have added a few more picks Orlando's 2022 unprotected, Chicago's 2023 unprotected pick but I wouldnt consider RJ, 8th and Bamba as crap. You have to remember that Lillard is 30 and teams rarely get great value when trading away their stars.
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Post#10 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:26 pm

At the value OP proposed its a no brainer, but realistically it would require a lot more and Lillard unfortunately does not fit Orlandos timeline or direction so for those reasons I'm out.
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Re: Portland & Orlando 

Post#11 » by JRoy » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:26 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:Keep it simple.

Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)

Portland trades- Damien Lillard

Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.

Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.

Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter


Hard pass for POR.

Not trading Lillard for a handful of crap and a pick.


Could have added a few more picks Orlando's 2022 unprotected, Chicago's 2023 unprotected pick but I wouldnt consider RJ, 8th and Bamba as crap. You have to remember that Lillard is 30 and teams rarely get great value when trading away their stars.


Fair enough.

I’m a Bamba fan, hope he gets some serious minutes this year as I believe he has the chance to be a very solid player.

Have no opinion on Hampton and Harris is a bench guy.

If Lillard were on the market there would be about 20 better offers than this.
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Post#12 » by BlazersBroncos » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:50 pm

This offer wouldnt get Portland to even pick up the phone.
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Post#13 » by shrink » Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:51 pm

The other issue is that Lillard is a fixture in Portland. I think he will be one of those rare players that never leaves, and his contract helps insure that. But if he were to ever move on, I think both Lillard and the Portland organization would make sure he was going to good situation - a team where he would be contending. In other words, I don’t think debating the price really matters.
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Post#14 » by Myth » Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:31 pm

BlazersBroncos wrote:This offer wouldnt get Portland to even pick up the phone.

How would Portland know the offer before picking up the phone? That is impressive.

As for the trade: WTF?
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Re: Portland & Orlando 

Post#15 » by tiderulz » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:50 pm

OrlMagic05 wrote:Keep it simple.

Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)

Portland trades- Damien Lillard

Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.

Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.

Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter

being an Orlando fan, you would have to include our other 2021 pick in this just to talk
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Post#16 » by KEMBAtheMETEOR » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:51 pm

none of the players are enticing enough to even be sweeteners in a trade revolving around a star like Lillard so you are proposing the 8th pick for Lillard?

what?
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Re: Portland & Orlando 

Post#17 » by tiderulz » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:58 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:What I think an actual Orlando offer could look like:

Harris, Bamba, Anthony, RJ, 3, 8, 2023 Chicago 1st, 2023 Orlando 1st, 2025 Orlando 1st, 2025 Denver 1st

no, that is way too much. Maybe if Lillard was 25, not 31.
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Re: Portland & Orlando 

Post#18 » by tiderulz » Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:59 pm

JRoy wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
JRoy wrote:
Hard pass for POR.

Not trading Lillard for a handful of crap and a pick.


Could have added a few more picks Orlando's 2022 unprotected, Chicago's 2023 unprotected pick but I wouldnt consider RJ, 8th and Bamba as crap. You have to remember that Lillard is 30 and teams rarely get great value when trading away their stars.


Fair enough.

I’m a Bamba fan, hope he gets some serious minutes this year as I believe he has the chance to be a very solid player.

Have no opinion on Hampton and Harris is a bench guy.

If Lillard were on the market there would be about 20 better offers than this.

unless Bamba develops a motor this summer and takes things seriously, he isnt going to be solid
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Re: Portland & Orlando 

Post#19 » by JRoy » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:38 pm

tiderulz wrote:
JRoy wrote:
OrlMagic05 wrote:
Could have added a few more picks Orlando's 2022 unprotected, Chicago's 2023 unprotected pick but I wouldnt consider RJ, 8th and Bamba as crap. You have to remember that Lillard is 30 and teams rarely get great value when trading away their stars.


Fair enough.

I’m a Bamba fan, hope he gets some serious minutes this year as I believe he has the chance to be a very solid player.

Have no opinion on Hampton and Harris is a bench guy.

If Lillard were on the market there would be about 20 better offers than this.

unless Bamba develops a motor this summer and takes things seriously, he isnt going to be solid


Maybe the coaching change will help.
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Re: Portland & Orlando 

Post#20 » by JasonStern » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:23 pm

D.O.A.

From Portland's standpoint, other teams would easily top this offer (Murray+MPJ from DEN, Simmons from PHI).

From Orlando's standpoint, Dame is being vocal that the Blazers need to contend/win now. If you put him on a gutted Orlando team to play 2003-04 Tracy McGrady, he's going to be ten times more disgruntled than he is now.
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