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Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 5:58 pm
by OrlMagic05
Keep it simple.
Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)
Portland trades- Damien Lillard
Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.
Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.
Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:00 pm
by BK_2020
This is a pretty good trade for Orlando.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:01 pm
by Malapropism
Portland never picks up the phone ever again for Orlando callers after receiving this offer.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:04 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
What I think an actual Orlando offer could look like:
Harris, Bamba, Anthony, RJ, 3, 8, 2023 Chicago 1st, 2023 Orlando 1st, 2025 Orlando 1st, 2025 Denver 1st
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:06 pm
by The Graduate
Yeah, don't want to pile on, but this really misses the mark for Portland fans. It's missing at least three more future first-round picks to even begin negotiations (and it would possibly take a lot more to actually complete a deal).
Also, the Blazers only trade Dame if he wants out, and I don't think Orlando is making his list. If I'm Orlando, I keep building organically with youth anyway; there is no need to rush the timeline.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:08 pm
by Xman
Not near enough for Portland.
#2, #8, Bamba, Fultz, Harris is closer.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:13 pm
by JRoy
OrlMagic05 wrote:Keep it simple.
Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)
Portland trades- Damien Lillard
Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.
Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.
Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter
Hard pass for POR.
Not trading Lillard for a handful of crap and a pick.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:14 pm
by OrlMagic05
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:What I think an actual Orlando offer could look like:
Harris, Bamba, Anthony, RJ, 3, 8, 2023 Chicago 1st, 2023 Orlando 1st, 2025 Orlando 1st, 2025 Denver 1st
If Lillard was 25 yes. You do not get this much value typically and this is a HARD pass.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:18 pm
by OrlMagic05
JRoy wrote:OrlMagic05 wrote:Keep it simple.
Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)
Portland trades- Damien Lillard
Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.
Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.
Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter
Hard pass for POR.
Not trading Lillard for a handful of crap and a pick.
Could have added a few more picks Orlando's 2022 unprotected, Chicago's 2023 unprotected pick but I wouldnt consider RJ, 8th and Bamba as crap. You have to remember that Lillard is 30 and teams rarely get great value when trading away their stars.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:26 pm
by Magic_Johnny12
At the value OP proposed its a no brainer, but realistically it would require a lot more and Lillard unfortunately does not fit Orlandos timeline or direction so for those reasons I'm out.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:26 pm
by JRoy
OrlMagic05 wrote:JRoy wrote:OrlMagic05 wrote:Keep it simple.
Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)
Portland trades- Damien Lillard
Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.
Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.
Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter
Hard pass for POR.
Not trading Lillard for a handful of crap and a pick.
Could have added a few more picks Orlando's 2022 unprotected, Chicago's 2023 unprotected pick but I wouldnt consider RJ, 8th and Bamba as crap. You have to remember that Lillard is 30 and teams rarely get great value when trading away their stars.
Fair enough.
I’m a Bamba fan, hope he gets some serious minutes this year as I believe he has the chance to be a very solid player.
Have no opinion on Hampton and Harris is a bench guy.
If Lillard were on the market there would be about 20 better offers than this.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:50 pm
by BlazersBroncos
This offer wouldnt get Portland to even pick up the phone.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 6:51 pm
by shrink
The other issue is that Lillard is a fixture in Portland. I think he will be one of those rare players that never leaves, and his contract helps insure that. But if he were to ever move on, I think both Lillard and the Portland organization would make sure he was going to good situation - a team where he would be contending. In other words, I don’t think debating the price really matters.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:31 pm
by Myth
BlazersBroncos wrote:This offer wouldnt get Portland to even pick up the phone.
How would Portland know the offer before picking up the phone? That is impressive.
As for the trade: WTF?
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:50 pm
by tiderulz
OrlMagic05 wrote:Keep it simple.
Orlando trades- Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, RJ Hampton, 8th pick from Chicago (if it sticks there)
Portland trades- Damien Lillard
Orlando gets a star player to with Isaac, Fultz, & their 2021 pick.
Portland gets 2 young prospects and a lottery pick.
Fultz
Lillard
Cade (fingers crossed)
Isaac
Carter
being an Orlando fan, you would have to include our other 2021 pick in this just to talk
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:51 pm
by HornetJail
none of the players are enticing enough to even be sweeteners in a trade revolving around a star like Lillard so you are proposing the 8th pick for Lillard?
what?
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:58 pm
by tiderulz
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:What I think an actual Orlando offer could look like:
Harris, Bamba, Anthony, RJ, 3, 8, 2023 Chicago 1st, 2023 Orlando 1st, 2025 Orlando 1st, 2025 Denver 1st
no, that is way too much. Maybe if Lillard was 25, not 31.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:59 pm
by tiderulz
JRoy wrote:OrlMagic05 wrote:JRoy wrote:
Hard pass for POR.
Not trading Lillard for a handful of crap and a pick.
Could have added a few more picks Orlando's 2022 unprotected, Chicago's 2023 unprotected pick but I wouldnt consider RJ, 8th and Bamba as crap. You have to remember that Lillard is 30 and teams rarely get great value when trading away their stars.
Fair enough.
I’m a Bamba fan, hope he gets some serious minutes this year as I believe he has the chance to be a very solid player.
Have no opinion on Hampton and Harris is a bench guy.
If Lillard were on the market there would be about 20 better offers than this.
unless Bamba develops a motor this summer and takes things seriously, he isnt going to be solid
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:38 pm
by JRoy
tiderulz wrote:JRoy wrote:OrlMagic05 wrote:
Could have added a few more picks Orlando's 2022 unprotected, Chicago's 2023 unprotected pick but I wouldnt consider RJ, 8th and Bamba as crap. You have to remember that Lillard is 30 and teams rarely get great value when trading away their stars.
Fair enough.
I’m a Bamba fan, hope he gets some serious minutes this year as I believe he has the chance to be a very solid player.
Have no opinion on Hampton and Harris is a bench guy.
If Lillard were on the market there would be about 20 better offers than this.
unless Bamba develops a motor this summer and takes things seriously, he isnt going to be solid
Maybe the coaching change will help.
Re: Portland & Orlando
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:23 pm
by JasonStern
D.O.A.
From Portland's standpoint, other teams would easily top this offer (Murray+MPJ from DEN, Simmons from PHI).
From Orlando's standpoint, Dame is being vocal that the Blazers need to contend/win now. If you put him on a gutted Orlando team to play 2003-04 Tracy McGrady, he's going to be ten times more disgruntled than he is now.