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Based on securing another 2021 1st round pick in Hoford/Walker deal, what team in the lottery would be interested in trading down for a package of those 3 picks?

Im assuming the Houston pick will be top 4 thereby allocating the Miami 2021 1st to OKC. The Thunder still have their own 1st, #36, #55 picks.

11 + Richards for 16 and 18?

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:11 + Richards for 16 and 18?

I'd do that. But I would prefer to try to use 16 and 18+ to move up twice. That's harder to pull off, but OKC does have a lot of sweetener.

I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Bentley1225 wrote:Based on securing another 2021 1st round pick in Hoford/Walker deal, what team in the lottery would be interested in trading down for a package of those 3 picks?

Im assuming the Houston pick will be top 4 thereby allocating the Miami 2021 1st to OKC. The Thunder still have their own 1st, #36, #55 picks.

There's pretty clearly a top 5 (Cunningham, Mobley, Suggs, Green, and Kumminga) in some order, and I think any team picking inside that range is unlikely to be willing to move down. My gut says it'd get you in the 10-14 range.

BlazersBroncos wrote:I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

E S V L wrote:

BlazersBroncos wrote:I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

which potential star is dropping to #11?

According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

Ruzious wrote:According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

I doubt you're getting into top half of lottery with #16/#18/#35. I think between 8-12 objectively speaking is realistic.

Bentley1225 wrote:

Ruzious wrote:According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

I doubt you're getting into top half of lottery with #16/#18/#35. I think between 8-12 objectively speaking is realistic.

I'm thinking between 6 and 10 in this draft.

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:

E S V L wrote:

BlazersBroncos wrote:I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

which potential star is dropping to #11?

Bouknight. Plenty of stars break out without being strong defensively. Devon Booker comes to mind.

Ruzious wrote:

Bentley1225 wrote:

Ruzious wrote:According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

I doubt you're getting into top half of lottery with #16/#18/#35. I think between 8-12 objectively speaking is realistic.

I'm thinking between 6 and 10 in this draft.

If I were 6-10 I don't think I'd make that trade, but that is what I'm hoping OKC is able to do.

I'd probably give #10 for that Doritos sampler pack but I'd be asking for 7 if I'm OKC.

Looking at history, 9-11 is the likely projection.

MasterIchiro wrote:

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:

E S V L wrote:
Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

which potential star is dropping to #11?

Bouknight. Plenty of stars break out without being strong defensively. Devon Booker comes to mind.

I don't know if he lasts until 11. There's noise out there that he's climbing up boards. His 3p% was pretty abysmal last year though so maybe he does slip.

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KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:

E S V L wrote:

BlazersBroncos wrote:I think CHA is the play. 11 + Cheap Salary Guy for 17 + 18. Or just 11 for 16 + 18.

Charlotte should think twice: there are potential stars in the range of 6-11.

which potential star is dropping to #11?

Moody, Bouknight, Jalen Johnson, Keon Johnson

Some might argue that Mitchell and Kispert can be seen by Charlotte as way too valuable to trade down for 2 most likely role players.

In a typical draft, I have that at

42 + 38/2 + 17/3 = 66 2/3 as #8.

The #35 moves it from #9 to #8, but that small a margin is really going to depend on the two players there.

jbk1234 wrote:

MasterIchiro wrote:

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:which potential star is dropping to #11?

Bouknight. Plenty of stars break out without being strong defensively. Devon Booker comes to mind.

I don't know if he lasts until 11. There's noise out there that he's climbing up boards. His 3p% was pretty abysmal last year though so maybe he does slip.

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He's not taking set threes. He's shooting them off the dribble. He's able to create his own three point opportunities. So I think there's great potential. He shot 80% on FT across two years. Evaluators favor freshman and he's a sophomore, so hopefully he falls.

Ruzious wrote:

Bentley1225 wrote:

Ruzious wrote:According to Kevin Pelton's 2017 chart http://nbasense.com/draft-pick-trade-value/2/kevin-pelton-2 that package o picks has the value of between the 3rd and 4th picks.

I doubt you're getting into top half of lottery with #16/#18/#35. I think between 8-12 objectively speaking is realistic.

I'm thinking between 6 and 10 in this draft.

If someone moved from 6, I think it would take more than those two. Specifically because Mitchell seems like a good prospect with a solid floor. To move from him back to unknown picks/players is high risk. 8 Seems like the right number, but if TOR stays at 7 then I could see them, because of their management, dropping down willingly. Can't see Orlando doing that(8) nor Kings (9) but everyone else could have reasonable motivation if their 1A is gone.

A look at previous history.

Vlade traded the 10 for the 15 & 20

So, for the 16 & 18......maybe you get anywhere from 8-12?