[Haynes]: Derozan to Chicago Update: 3/$85M sign and trade

Post #1 » by **bondom34** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:00 pm

Read on Twitter

Post #2 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:01 pm

It's the Spurs that need to agree not DDR

Post #3 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:01 pm

For the non-tax MLE?

Post #4 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:01 pm

Chicago not defending anyone, but lots of talent all of a sudden.

Post #5 » by **bondom34** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:02 pm

Editing OP:

Read on Twitter

Post #6 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:03 pm

So Collins no longer has his leverage right? Would be funny if Atlanta came down from 5/125 now and he played himself.

Also what happens with Markannen now? Chicago needs defense desperately. Markkanen in this? Thad is not enoough salary.

Post #7 » by **VCfor3** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:03 pm

I'm not digging this for Chicago. Using another 1st is rough.

psman2 · Post #8 » by **psman2** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:04 pm

Good for the Spurs.

Chicago is now a relevant sixth seed team now....congrats I guess. In for a penny in for a pound...

Troubadour · Post #9 » by **Troubadour** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:05 pm

Happy for DeMar!

Post #10 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:06 pm

Had to include Troy Brown right?

Edit: Aminu.

Post #11 » by **BullyKing** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:07 pm

Well I've got a new choice for worst move with apologies to David Griffin

Post #12 » by **bondom34** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:07 pm

Yeah the rest of the Bulls stuff I was with, not so sure on this.

Resistance · Post #13 » by **Resistance** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:07 pm

In hindsight, they would have been better offer by trading LaVine for the best rebuilding package possible and starting over.

The patching with DDR and Vucevic isn't going to elevate them to being a true contender.

R-DAWG · Post #14 » by **R-DAWG** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:08 pm

While, if I were a Bulls fan, I wouldn't love giving up 3 first round picks for Nikola Vucevic and DeMarr DeRozan, I kind of like how these pieces fit.

DeRozan is a mid range player who is surrounded by 3 guys in LaVine, Vucevic and Ball who are plus shooters. There is still some upside pieces in Patrick Williams and Coby White, plus some nice other pieces. Not a championship contender, but a better version of what the Knicks are trying to build.

Post #15 » by **HartfordWhalers** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:08 pm

I hope it is a top 20 protected pick, or else this looks like a big meh to me.

Ball/LaVine/DDR/Pat Williams/Vuc
Ayo Dosunmu/ White/Caruso/ ?/ ??

Look right?

LightTheBeam · Post #16 » by **LightTheBeam** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:08 pm

Vuc/
Pat Williams/Aminu
DeRozan/Troy Brown
LaVine/Coby
Lonzo/Caruso

Its a oddly shaped team, but I like they at least continued all in after last years move. Need to vet depth up front for sure.

Post #17 » by **zimpy27** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:09 pm

So are they keeping Lauri?

Thought they'd keep Thad

rpa · Post #18 » by **rpa** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:09 pm

VCfor3 wrote:I'm not digging this for Chicago. Using another 1st is rough.

+1

Bulls just traded a mid-lottery pick for Vuc and still owe a 2023 (for him) and what is probably a 2025 for DDR. Bad/mediocre teams trading away future 1st rarely ends well.

Post #19 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:09 pm

R-DAWG wrote:While, if I were a Bulls fan, I wouldn't love giving up 3 first round picks for Nikola Vucevic and DeMarr DeRozan, I kind of like how these pieces fit.

DeRozan is a mid range player who is surrounded by 3 guys in LaVine, Vucevic and Ball who are plus shooters. There is still some upside pieces in Patrick Williams and Coby White, plus some nice other pieces. Not a championship contender, but a better version of what the Knicks are trying to build.

Offensively they can be very good if Zach Lavine understands his new role is largely off-ball and let the better creators DD and Vuc run the offense--I have real doubts about LaVine's willingness here.

But defensively this is really really rough. Ball/Caruso don't remotely solve that.

Post #20 » by **Texas Chuck** » Tue Aug 3, 2021 8:11 pm

Aminu is the other matching piece.