Thoughts in General, Rumors, etc 4.0

[MoneyTalks41890]

I feel like OKC will do something soon. They have too much cap space setting around to at least not be involved in some sort of salary shedding deal sometime soon.

This is just us having tasted the thrill of Presti making a transaction every other day, only to go cold turkey. I'm inclined to agree with you, but I also think it's just so strange that more hasn't happened.

[BlazersBroncos]

Could Drummond not have got a better contract and position than the one with Philly?

That's kind of odd

Not really. Going to the Lakers showcased his weaknesses more then his strengths. He absolutely would have looked better had James and Davis been healthy. But he got exposed and not playing much in the playoffs, because quite honestly he wouldn’t have been useful, just about killed any value he had left.

Pistons were mediocre at best building around him, Cavs traded almost nothing to get him and were really quick to move on from him. Centers like him don’t have the same impact they used to.

Maybe he gets a little more if he had gone to the hornets instead, but I’m honestly not sure.

Once McGee joined the suns and Howard went back to la, there wasn’t much available for Drummond. And honestly he probably joined the best team that offered a minimum deal. Just funny that Joel is so in his head that Drummond is now his backup

Robin Lopez got $5M in Orlando. I'm convinced he could've done better.

Signing for the minimum in Brooklyn would've been smarter imo
Maybe backing up in Chicago in case Vuc gets traded would've been better

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Lopez is a culture guy. They are paying him that in part to be a good mentor and vet presence for the youngsters. Andre isnt that type of person.

[chrbal]

Could Drummond not have got a better contract and position than the one with Philly?

That's kind of odd

Not really. Going to the Lakers showcased his weaknesses more then his strengths. He absolutely would have looked better had James and Davis been healthy. But he got exposed and not playing much in the playoffs, because quite honestly he wouldn’t have been useful, just about killed any value he had left.

Pistons were mediocre at best building around him, Cavs traded almost nothing to get him and were really quick to move on from him. Centers like him don’t have the same impact they used to.

Maybe he gets a little more if he had gone to the hornets instead, but I’m honestly not sure.

Once McGee joined the suns and Howard went back to la, there wasn’t much available for Drummond. And honestly he probably joined the best team that offered a minimum deal. Just funny that Joel is so in his head that Drummond is now his backup

Robin Lopez got $5M in Orlando. I'm convinced he could've done better.

Signing for the minimum in Brooklyn would've been smarter imo
Maybe backing up in Chicago in case Vuc gets traded would've been better

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And robin has a game that better fits the nba right now

[MoneyTalks41890]

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[Patsfan1081]

Is there a realistic way to get Simmons to Minnesota to play alongside KAT & D. Russell?

Is there a 3 team deal involving Anthony Edwards to be made?

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Wolves won’t include Edwards in a Simmons move unless they are getting more than just Simmons back.

Even with his issues Simmons has more value so I’m not sure how that’s possible.

[jscott]

Is there a realistic way to get Simmons to Minnesota to play alongside KAT & D. Russell?

Is there a 3 team deal involving Anthony Edwards to be made?

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Wolves won’t include Edwards in a Simmons move unless they are getting more than just Simmons back.

Even with his issues Simmons has more value so I’m not sure how that’s possible.

Disagree.

I feel Edwards has more value to a rebuilding team by being younger, having a better contract situation, and by being able to create his own shot.

[jbk1234]

Could Drummond not have got a better contract and position than the one with Philly?

That's kind of odd

It was probably his best chance at seeing significantly minutes as a starter given Biid's load management.

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[shangrila]

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The NBA seems to be one of the few fields where cronyism is actively celebrated.

[Texas Chuck]

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The NBA seems to be one of the few fields where cronyism is actively celebrated.

Not sure how this applies to this post. I know you aren't implying Barea isn't qualified to work for an NBA team lol.

[shangrila]

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The NBA seems to be one of the few fields where cronyism is actively celebrated.

Not sure how this applies to this post. I know you aren't implying Barea isn't qualified to work for an NBA team lol.

Kind of?

It's more of a general statement, sure. I don't know Barea's qualifications. But when nobody can seemingly tell even what his job is supposed to be it makes me chuckle a little. In any other industry this would be textbook cronyism.

[MoneyTalks41890]

The NBA seems to be one of the few fields where cronyism is actively celebrated.

Not sure how this applies to this post. I know you aren't implying Barea isn't qualified to work for an NBA team lol.

Kind of?

It's more of a general statement, sure. I don't know Barea's qualifications. But when nobody can seemingly tell even what his job is supposed to be it makes me chuckle a little. In any other industry this would be textbook cronyism.

This is kind of a strange comparison to draw. In fact in most industries once someone retires from employment, they continue to consult in their industry to provide their experience and expertise. Of course basketball is even more unique because only a few hundred individuals even have that experience. And of course that is valuable right? There are also Of Counsel positions in many law firms which is basically paying for the name of someone past their prime. And in the public sector it’s double dipping.

[pacers33granger]

There are also Of Counsel positions in many law firms which is basically paying for the name of someone past their prime.

I love thinking of JJ Barea as of counsel to the Mavs.

[Scoot McGroot]

The NBA seems to be one of the few fields where cronyism is actively celebrated.

Not sure how this applies to this post. I know you aren't implying Barea isn't qualified to work for an NBA team lol.

Kind of?

It's more of a general statement, sure. I don't know Barea's qualifications. But when nobody can seemingly tell even what his job is supposed to be it makes me chuckle a little. In any other industry this would be textbook cronyism.

Then why automatically assume it’s cronyism? Why assume he can’t be qualified for a position is essentially showing up and sharing your knowledge? Guys have gone straight into head coaching positions before. Here, he’s learning and earning his way.

[shangrila]

Not sure how this applies to this post. I know you aren't implying Barea isn't qualified to work for an NBA team lol.

Kind of?

It's more of a general statement, sure. I don't know Barea's qualifications. But when nobody can seemingly tell even what his job is supposed to be it makes me chuckle a little. In any other industry this would be textbook cronyism.

Then why automatically assume it’s cronyism? Why assume he can’t be qualified for a position is essentially showing up and sharing your knowledge? Guys have gone straight into head coaching positions before. Here, he’s learning and earning his way.

Because nobody has mentioned any qualifications or even what his job role is?

How else do you describe someone employing a former associate in an undefined role without experience in a similar field?

[Apz]

Kind of?

It's more of a general statement, sure. I don't know Barea's qualifications. But when nobody can seemingly tell even what his job is supposed to be it makes me chuckle a little. In any other industry this would be textbook cronyism.

Then why automatically assume it’s cronyism? Why assume he can’t be qualified for a position is essentially showing up and sharing your knowledge? Guys have gone straight into head coaching positions before. Here, he’s learning and earning his way.

Because nobody has mentioned any qualifications or even what his job role is?

How else do you describe someone employing a former associate in an undefined role without experience in a similar field?

Similair field? Could have understood that if he had been hired by the cowboys. Need to start somewhere, how did guys like carlisle and kerr and all the other ex nba players start their coaching careers?

[Scoot McGroot]

Kind of?

It's more of a general statement, sure. I don't know Barea's qualifications. But when nobody can seemingly tell even what his job is supposed to be it makes me chuckle a little. In any other industry this would be textbook cronyism.

Then why automatically assume it’s cronyism? Why assume he can’t be qualified for a position is essentially showing up and sharing your knowledge? Guys have gone straight into head coaching positions before. Here, he’s learning and earning his way.

Because nobody has mentioned any qualifications or even what his job role is?

How else do you describe someone employing a former associate in an undefined role without experience in a similar field?

His job role is to be JJ Barea and share his knowledge while learning the organization for a year or more, likely to see what he wants to do down the line, and for the organization to see where he might be best. Obviously he got the job by his connections with the organization. They want him personally to work for them in any way. You call it cronyism, they light just call it “wanting to keep institutional knowledge in house”. Why assume that he’s not qualified to be JJ Barea?

[HartfordWhalers]

Okay, I'm ready for the last free agents to pick locations and move on.

[jbk1234]

Okay, I'm ready for the last free agents to pick locations and move on.

I think Hart and Lauri could go down to the wire where a threat of them playing on the QO becomes very real. Right now, it doesn't sound like the Bulls and Pelicans are being very reasonable.

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[pacers33granger]

Okay, I'm ready for the last free agents to pick locations and move on.

I think Hart and Lauri could go down to the wire where a threat of them playing on the QO becomes very real. Right now, it doesn't sound like the Bulls and Pelicans are being very reasonable.

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Not sure about Hart's situation, but Lauri's camp isn't exactly being reasonable either.