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TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 3:54 am
by MessiahUjiri
Here’s something that might work for both Toronto and Minnesota:

Pascal Siakam + Precious Achiuwa + Malachi Flynn
for
Karl Anthony Towns + one of the young backups (Okogie or Nowell)

TWolves cash out on KAT with a nice All star PF + starter PF/C + backup PG.

Raptors move towards a playoff contender with a better balanced front court of OG + Barnes + KAT

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 3:57 am
by Mamba4Goat
I think picks need to be added but if Minnesota trades KAT why would they downgrade and set themselves up to be in similar situation with Siakam (soon to be disgruntled star on a losing team)? Like Simmons, Minnesota would ideally pair KAT and Siakam together, not swap them for each other.

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 3:58 am
by azwfan
MessiahUjiri wrote:Here’s something that might work for both Toronto and Minnesota:

Pascal Siakam + Precious Achiuwa + Malachi Flynn
for
Karl Anthony Towns + one of the young backups (Okogie or Nowell)

TWolves cash out on KAT with a nice All star PF + starter PF/C + backup PG.

Raptors move towards a playoff contender with a better balanced front court of OG + Barnes + KAT

Toronto is gonna need to give up more. Significantly more IMO.

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 4:11 am
by HornetJail
this is multiple picks off in terms of value, and Minnesota wouldn't deal KAT for a 27/28 year old guy that's far worse than KAT, it would have to be a monster rebuild package

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 4:38 am
by Wolveswin
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:this is multiple picks off in terms of value, and Minnesota wouldn't deal KAT for a 27/28 year old guy that's far worse than KAT, it would have to be a monster rebuild package

This.

OP is silly concept. Idea would be to pair them not trade one for another.

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 5:28 am
by babyjax13
Yah, this is stacking nickles on top of a quarter for a dollar. At least the Barnes idea has Minnesota getting a piece that might be an elite player to build around long-term on the same timeline as Edwards.

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 5:35 am
by Slim Charless
Dumb trade. Wolves can get ALOT more for Towns. Isn't Siakam older than KAT too? Lol

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 5:40 am
by zimpy27
I'd be going with OG+FVV+FRPs for KAT

Trent, Barnes, Siakam, KAT is a quality fit IMO. That gets you the defense for KAT and the blend of playmaking and offense to be elite.

I also really like FVV, Edwards, OG, McDaniels

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 5:49 am
by Magic_Johnny12
The real question is Siakam even considered a positive contract with all things considered?

Absolutely brutal for Minnesotta

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 5:56 am
by MessiahUjiri
Wolveswin wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:this is multiple picks off in terms of value, and Minnesota wouldn't deal KAT for a 27/28 year old guy that's far worse than KAT, it would have to be a monster rebuild package

This.

OP is silly concept. Idea would be to pair them not trade one for another.


I’m OP.

I hear you. Let’s pivot and try to combine them.

Minnesota probably prefers Edwards to DLo, so let’s make it a deal around DLo. IMO, Deangelo is worth much lower than KAT. How’s this:

Siakam, Malachi Flynn, future 2nd
for
DeAngelo, Naz Reid and Jarred Vanderbilt


Minn gets an Edwards-Siakam-Towns core
Tor gets solid depth pieces.

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 6:10 am
by hcsilla
MessiahUjiri wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:this is multiple picks off in terms of value, and Minnesota wouldn't deal KAT for a 27/28 year old guy that's far worse than KAT, it would have to be a monster rebuild package

This.

OP is silly concept. Idea would be to pair them not trade one for another.


I’m OP.

I hear you. Let’s pivot and try to combine them.

Minnesota probably prefers Edwards to DLo, so let’s make it a deal around DLo. IMO, Deangelo is worth much lower than KAT. How’s this:

Siakam, Malachi Flynn, future 2nd
for
DeAngelo, Naz Reid and Jarred Vanderbilt

Minn gets an Edwards-Siakam-Towns core
Tor gets solid depth pieces.


Tor doesn't, Russell's value is negative, that's a bad trade for them.

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Mon Nov 8, 2021 11:46 am
by DroseReturnChi
siakam, og seems right. too many quarters.

Re: TOR-MINN: Siakam, Achiuwa, Flynn for Karl Anthony Towns

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:24 am
by Mr Swagtastic
MessiahUjiri wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:this is multiple picks off in terms of value, and Minnesota wouldn't deal KAT for a 27/28 year old guy that's far worse than KAT, it would have to be a monster rebuild package

This.

OP is silly concept. Idea would be to pair them not trade one for another.


I’m OP.

I hear you. Let’s pivot and try to combine them.

Minnesota probably prefers Edwards to DLo, so let’s make it a deal around DLo. IMO, Deangelo is worth much lower than KAT. How’s this:

Siakam, Malachi Flynn, future 2nd
for
DeAngelo, Naz Reid and Jarred Vanderbilt


Minn gets an Edwards-Siakam-Towns core
Tor gets solid depth pieces.


Why would Toronto want D'Angelo Russell? You're basically taking on a guy who is a glorified scorer who plays 0 defense and it's too small to play with Fred VanVleet. Naz Reid isn't a long-term answer for Toronto at the centre position and Jarred Vanderbilt isn't somebody to bridge any sort of gap. That is an extremely easy no thank you from Toronto. Siakam has more value than all those guys combined. People need to stop treating him like he's a garbage contract, let's revisit his contract, the trade deadline or the All-Star break