giberish wrote:Realistically, something like:
Sac trades: Mitchell, Beasley, Thompson, Jones, 2022 1st (top-4 protected for a couple years) for Siakam
Kings trade Mitchell because they aren't trading Haliburton for Siakam, especially not adding a 1st. They also keep Len as a backup C.
Toronto trades: Van Vleet, Siakam for Simmons, Mitchell, Jones, 2022 Philly 1st (top-4 protected for a couple years).
Toronto gets an interesting rookie PG for Van Vleet along with the Siakam/Simmons swap. Getting the upside if Simmons works out well and adding a 1st as partial coverage if he doesn't.
Philly trades: Simmons, 2022 1st for Van Vleet, Grant.
Grant replaces Simmons forward defensive role while Van Vleet adds another offense-creator option.
Detroit trades Grant for Beasley, Thompson, 2022 Sac 1st
The Kings 1st may be interesting enough for Detroit to move Grant for EC filler.
Also no one adds more then 1 roster spot.
I guess we agree to disagree in value. The trade I did, the way I saw it was essentially Siakam for Haliburton and a protected 1st. I see little to no value in Bagley, Thompson or Len. They are salary fillers. Just like how we ended up with Dragic in the Lowry sign and trade. All 3 would most likely be bought out.
I dont think Haliburton is untouchable. That's cool if you think so, but a 2nd year point guard, where there is a million of point guards in the league, whose numbers have actually gone down a little in his 2nd season, has more value than a 27 year old, Former ALL NBA player just 2 years ago, who is a big and a 2nd option on a nba champ. The Kings should know about Siakam. He just dropped 32 and 8 on them last week in a blowout.
Haliburton could be an all star one day. But he could not. That is why you pay extra when you pay with potential and not a sure thing. Siakam is a sure thing. Siakam is a top 30 to 40 player in this league. You dont get one by giving up Davion Mitchell and some scrubs lol.