What is Brunson deal with the Knicks..?

[Mike lorenzo]

As a Mavs fan, we have been listening to the music of Jalen to the Knicks for a long time...it seems that they have strong ties and more importantly Brunson has taken another step this season, with Luka gone he has proven to be really good...he is young and seems to fit perfectly in the young nucleus that they are creating with Barrett/Reddish/Robinson...etc... would it

be now or out of season in an ST?

-Brunson/Bullock/Maxi/Dallas22 for Randle/Kemba/Dallas23..??

-Robinson/Kemba or Burks/Dallas 23 for Brunson/Bullock

-Brunson for Dallas 23+2 Round..??



Do you think that would happen?

What deal would it be?

Do the Mavs cling to Jalen?

[Mavrelous]

None of these deals interest me TBH, only deal possible is unlocking the 23 pick + assets (JB is worth more than the 23 pick), to bring an all star to DAL or other young talent to DAL (Sexton or in a much larger deal for Simmons).

[Texas Chuck]

I'm curious still how true this is. I know a New York guy recently wrote about this again. And I know lots of Dallas guys then picked up the story and run with it.

But the Knicks can't sign him in free agency without Dallas help and they just used a first on Reddish. Are they really going to turn around and meet Dallas' asking price for Brunson now? Because sorry but just getting their own first back isn't going to be enough.

And on this board anyway Knicks fans think they have Dallas over a barrel by owning that pick(they don't) and think its a Brooklyn pick 2.0. So there is no discussion to be had. The Knicks fans here aren't going to give up anything good. And the Mavs IRL aren't interested in trading a guy having an incredible year who has fit beautifully next to Luka in the starting lineup. The price would be higher than New York or any team would realistically want to pay.

[jayjaysee]

If (Maxi, THJ, and) 2022, 2024, and 2026 picks got
Simmons to Dallas, I’d do Alec with the 2023 first for Brunson. KP/Ben/DFS/Alec/Luka and hope we do better with the MLE next offseason..

Outside of that, there’s no reason to lose Brunson and we just hope he gives us a chance to be the team to overpay him this offseason.

No reason to downgrade talent in the Hope of a future trade IMO. Our team, Luka.., is too good when healthy to take steps back.

[Rockazoids]

The thing you should do is look and see how many Knicks Fans are posting trades for Brunson on this board.
Then look how many Mavs or other teams fans are posting Brunson to the Knicks. DAL can keep Brunson, have fun paying
him & DFS without going into cap hell. It's always the same, NYK give up a lot of assets, get Bullock dumped on them for a UFA.
If NYK don't have the cap to sign Brunson, than he asking for to much from them.

He's a good player but not worth the asking price.

[Mavrelous]

The thing you should do is look and see how many Knicks Fans are posting trades for Brunson on this board.

How many Knicks fans post any trades on this board? I've been here for a year and they really aren't active in posting trades, some of them are very active in shooting down every trade

[R-DAWG]

I personally would not be willing to give up a first round pick for Brunson. He is going to be looking to get paid in the same range as Fred Van Vleet and Lonzo Ball - 4 years between $80-85MM. Both Lonzo and Van Vleet were coming off years where they shot around 38% from 3 on 7 attempts per game. By comparison, Brunson shoots 34% from 3 on 3 attempts per game. Very nice player who has shown he is a starter in the NBA, but IMO not the guy you give up assets for the right to overpay him.

If Brunson was locked into a long term deal in the low teens per year, different story. Also remember, the Knicks are going to have to pay or make a decision on Mitchell Robinson this summer, RJ Barrett and Cam Reddish the following summer. The roster is going to get expensive soon. I know the money does not matter with Dolan, but the lack of flexibility is meaningful.

[R-DAWG]

The thing you should do is look and see how many Knicks Fans are posting trades for Brunson on this board.

How many Knicks fans post any trades on this board? I've been here for a year and they really aren't active in posting trades, some of them are very active in shooting down every trade

I agree there are more proposals from Dallas side based on Brunson and the 2023 pick.

[Mavrelous]

I agree there are more proposals from Dallas side based on Brunson and the 2023 pick.

That's true, but that's not what I said, I said there isn't a lot of Knicks fans proposing trades here in general, while there a lot of trades from other teams fans, DAL is among them.

[Rockazoids]

The thing you should do is look and see how many Knicks Fans are posting trades for Brunson on this board.

How many Knicks fans post any trades on this board? I've been here for a year and they really aren't active in posting trades, some of them are very active in shooting down every trade

Well I have been here a lot longer and it's always the same. Their players are not valued as much no matter who they are.

[Pinkyring]

Rose return of mavs first for Brunson and powell would get it done for me, mavs get a replacement and their pick, Knicks get their pg

[Texas Chuck]

The thing you should do is look and see how many Knicks Fans are posting trades for Brunson on this board.

How many Knicks fans post any trades on this board? I've been here for a year and they really aren't active in posting trades, some of them are very active in shooting down every trade

Well I have been here a lot longer and it's always the same. Their players are not valued as much no matter who they are.

Oh please let's not do this. Victim complexes never help anything. I can assure you this board is not out here devaluing Knicks assets because they are Knicks assets. Occam's Razor tells us you feel this way because like almost all of us, we overvalue our own players rather than everyone else devaluing them.

There are exceptions of course, but rarely. Non-fans are as a rule going to be more objective than fans. For this thread us Mavs fans are going to overvalue Brunson. Goes without saying. But we aren't undervaluing Knicks stuff because its Knicks stuff. We don't care about the Knicks one way or the other really. You might get a Mavs fan to devalue the Heat or Spurs players out of pettiness, but hopefully not on this board. Goes against the very idea.

But like I tell every poster who feels their players aren't loved enough--there are boards on the internet for sure that will have a high valuation of all things your team. You can find a safe space. This board is never going to be that because what would be the point?

[Rockazoids]

How many Knicks fans post any trades on this board? I've been here for a year and they really aren't active in posting trades, some of them are very active in shooting down every trade

Well I have been here a lot longer and it's always the same. Their players are not valued as much no matter who they are.

Oh please let's not do this. Victim complexes never help anything. I can assure you this board is not out here devaluing Knicks assets because they are Knicks assets. Occam's Razor tells us you feel this way because like almost all of us, we overvalue our own players rather than everyone else devaluing them.

There are exceptions of course, but rarely. Non-fans are as a rule going to be more objective than fans. For this thread us Mavs fans are going to overvalue Brunson. Goes without saying. But we aren't undervaluing Knicks stuff because its Knicks stuff. We don't care about the Knicks one way or the other really. You might get a Mavs fan to devalue the Heat or Spurs players out of pettiness, but hopefully not on this board. Goes against the very idea.

But like I tell every poster who feels their players aren't loved enough--there are boards on the internet for sure that will have a high valuation of all things your team. You can find a safe space. This board is never going to be that because what would be the point?

No one having Victim complexes, He wondering why Knicks fan don't post a lot of trade and I gave him my opinion.
I didn't say fact or I had real knowledge or statistics so I gave my opinion just like you did.

[pacers33granger]

A late first is fair value but what's the incentive for Dallas then? They're trying to win and Brunson is a big part of that.

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[BlazersBroncos]

Brunson is playing really well. Dallas should keep him. I tend to think his lack of being a big 3PT threat will keep his asking price reasonable this summer (That and only SAS, DET, ORL having cap space, albeit other teams could make room).

Non superstar PGs and Cs are in surplus right now, I think DAL should be optimistic on getting a reasonable deal done. DFS is who I would worry about getting overpaid IMO.

[NYG]

I'm curious still how true this is. I know a New York guy recently wrote about this again. And I know lots of Dallas guys then picked up the story and run with it.

But the Knicks can't sign him in free agency without Dallas help and they just used a first on Reddish. Are they really going to turn around and meet Dallas' asking price for Brunson now? Because sorry but just getting their own first back isn't going to be enough.

And on this board anyway Knicks fans think they have Dallas over a barrel by owning that pick(they don't) and think its a Brooklyn pick 2.0. So there is no discussion to be had. The Knicks fans here aren't going to give up anything good. And the Mavs IRL aren't interested in trading a guy having an incredible year who has fit beautifully next to Luka in the starting lineup. The price would be higher than New York or any team would realistically want to pay.

Yeah, I have this as Dallas only selling very high and the Knicks buying low leading to no deal here.

However, is there any good fitting rookie contract point guards for the Knicks that have some defensive ability and could be had for less than Brunson?

[aguiar95]

There is no deal here. No disrespect to the NY roster, but there isn't a guy there that would make sense for the Mavs (NY does not have good offensive players, which DAL also lacks). The only way this is news is because of NY writers trying to speak it into existance with the Rick Brunson/Leon Rose conections. DAL will not trade him as he's an integral part of what we're doing. Getting the '23 pick back is not enough incentive for getting worse on court. If JB lets us know he's not re-signing here (kinda what Reddish did), then we start pondering the deals.

[loserX]

Yeah the deal is if Dallas wants to acquire Player X from a 3rd team and need to give up Brunson as part of the value, and the third team says "we'd rather have keeper assets than an impending FA", and then the Knicks swoop in.

As a two-team deal it's hard to make work.

[R-DAWG]

Some more context here from today’s NY Post. Jalen father, Rick Brunson (3rd string point guard on the 1999 Eastern Conference Champion Knicks) was Leon Rose (president of Knicks and former CAA agent) first NBA client. Additionally, Rick Brunson was an assistant coach under Tom Thibodeau for years. Taking it full circle Thibs was an assistant under Jeff Van Gundy on the 1999 Knicks.

So this is why there is a ton of interest on the Knicks regarding Brunson. Does not mean they will overpay.

The one trade idea that could make some sense is Duce McBride for Brunson. Dallas resets the rookie clock with McBride while the Knicks get a more established player, albeit one they have to pay, in Brunson.

[Swish1906]

As a Mavs fan, we have been listening to the music of Jalen to the Knicks for a long time...it seems that they have strong ties

No, you listened to know nothing Marc Berman who pulled something out of his ass and that was some ties between Brunsons father and Rose and how it would affect Brunsons FA decision

Brunson is a die hard Nova and Eagles fans, i would be more worried about Philly than this wannabe ties with Daddy and Rose