Offseason Brogdon sweepstakes

[babyjax13]

The move we all assume is coming is the Pacers trading Brogdon this offseason. What are teams willing to offer? Where does he fit?

[Godaddycurse]

Boston? Horford + 2 picks?

[HartfordWhalers]

The move we all assume is coming is the Pacers trading Brogdon this offseason. What are teams willing to offer? Where does he fit?

Lots of caveats that you all can assume…

And then after that, and only after all that,

Brogdon Hield + for Simmons.

I would t take it as a serious offer but on the flip side I would not put something off that basis (and everyone screams about what the plus is) completely off the realm of possibilities

[Scoot McGroot]

Boston? Horford + 2 picks?

Pretty poor value and fit for the Pacers, right?

[Godaddycurse]

Boston? Horford + 2 picks?

Pretty poor value and fit for the Pacers, right?

An expiring and 2 1sts is about right for someone as injury prone as Brogdon is. That was about his value at the beginning of the year and I dont think his value went up this year with more time missed from injury

[HartfordWhalers]

Boston? Horford + 2 picks?

Pretty poor value and fit for the Pacers, right?

Horford would be expiring then, so it is expiring and two picks that are probably 20? Not great value, especially after this week, but not awful.

[Godaddycurse]

But then again if leVert can fetch 1st and early second... maybe it is too light

[cgf]

Would love Brogdon on the knicks, but I have no clue what sort of package would make sense.

[Skin]

Magic GM John Hammond drafted Brogdon. I could see something there.

Cole Anthony, T-Ross, DEN 1st, 2 2nds?

[Scoot McGroot]

Magic GM John Hammond drafted Brogdon. I could see something there.

Cole Anthony, T-Ross, DEN 1st, 2 2nds?

I don't think that gets you into conversations at all. Indy will be making this deal with likely already having Haliburton and Duarte locked into the guard spots, with possibly having Buddy/McConnell off the bench, so Cole doesn't bring much interest. The Den 1st and 2nds are pretty low. Ross just isn't that either.

[Mamba4Goat]

Why does Brogdon have to go? I like Hali+Brogs.

[giberish]

Why is Brodgon definitely gone? Explain to someone who doesn't follow Indy that closely.

It seems like a Hali/Brodgon backcourt would be very effective. Hield can be a bench guy and probably isn't a key long-term guy for Indy (more needed to match money in the trade). Duarte looks like a credible rotation guy but more a backup who can start in case of injury than a solid starter (and as a 24 yo rookie I'm not expecting that much improvement).

I don't see Indy looking for a deep reset. Hali/Brodgon/Turner is a good start. Just need to fill out the forwards. Probably draft one, use cap space for a 2nd and hope Warren comes back healthy for a 3rd.

[cgf]

Magic GM John Hammond drafted Brogdon. I could see something there.

Cole Anthony, T-Ross, DEN 1st, 2 2nds?

I don't think that gets you into conversations at all. Indy will be making this deal with likely already having Haliburton and Duarte locked into the guard spots, with possibly having Buddy/McConnell off the bench, so Cole doesn't bring much interest. The Den 1st and 2nds are pretty low. Ross just isn't that either.

What are you guys expecting to happen with Brogdon, and if he is sold off, what do you think it takes to get into the conversation?

Would Quickley/Grimes/Reddish + 2 top-10 protected FRPs get us into the mix? Or would your FO be looking for more of a 4 in any Brogdon deal?

[Scoot McGroot]

Why does Brogdon have to go? I like Hali+Brogs.

Why is Brodgon definitely gone? Explain to someone who doesn't follow Indy that closely.

It seems like a Hali/Brodgon backcourt would be very effective. Hield can be a bench guy and probably isn't a key long-term guy for Indy (more needed to match money in the trade). Duarte looks like a credible rotation guy but more a backup who can start in case of injury than a solid starter (and as a 24 yo rookie I'm not expecting that much improvement).

I don't see Indy looking for a deep reset. Hali/Brodgon/Turner is a good start. Just need to fill out the forwards. Probably draft one, use cap space for a 2nd and hope Warren comes back healthy for a 3rd.

Because Duarte is a dude, and definitely needs to be starting at the 2 spot. He's starter every day quality already. Then, use Brogdon to help get those forwards, maybe you draft one, and then you've got your lineup running. But mostly, Brogdon wants to be the PG. And Hali should be the PG long-term. Add in McConnell, Buddy, and even Duane Washington Jr. off the bench, and there's a ton of guards that should get some minutes.

[Scoot McGroot]

Magic GM John Hammond drafted Brogdon. I could see something there.

Cole Anthony, T-Ross, DEN 1st, 2 2nds?

I don't think that gets you into conversations at all. Indy will be making this deal with likely already having Haliburton and Duarte locked into the guard spots, with possibly having Buddy/McConnell off the bench, so Cole doesn't bring much interest. The Den 1st and 2nds are pretty low. Ross just isn't that either.

What are you guys expecting to happen with Brogdon, and if he is sold off, what do you think it takes to get into the conversation?

Would Quickley/Grimes/Reddish + 2 top-10 protected FRPs get us into the mix? Or would your FO be looking for more of a 4 in any Brogdon deal?

I think we would be moving Brogdon to build the forwards, and because we have too many guards, so dealing Brogdon for 2 more guards likely doesn't do much. Probably some kind of SF/PF would be the focus, along with value in draft picks?

[cgf]

I don't think that gets you into conversations at all. Indy will be making this deal with likely already having Haliburton and Duarte locked into the guard spots, with possibly having Buddy/McConnell off the bench, so Cole doesn't bring much interest. The Den 1st and 2nds are pretty low. Ross just isn't that either.

What are you guys expecting to happen with Brogdon, and if he is sold off, what do you think it takes to get into the conversation?

Would Quickley/Grimes/Reddish + 2 top-10 protected FRPs get us into the mix? Or would your FO be looking for more of a 4 in any Brogdon deal?

I think we would be moving Brogdon to build the forwards, and because we have too many guards, so dealing Brogdon for 2 more guards likely doesn't do much. Probably some kind of SF/PF would be the focus, along with value in draft picks?

Gotcha. So Reddish should be more interesting to your FO than Grimes since Grimes is more of a 2/3 than a 3/4, and Grimes should be more interesting than Quickley since IQ is just a guard?

Would Reddish (or Grimes) + our FRP this year* + whichever of our FRPs is highest next year, be in the right area? Or are they just not interesting enough wing prospects to be the centerpieces of a Brogdon trade this summer? We have the draft capital to sweeten the pot if one of them is intriguing enough, but if we're talking Toppin++...nevermind Barrett...then we're probably going to be priced out.


*assuming that the lotto gods don't hook us up

[BuddyBuckets]

Maybe the Pels swoop in with an offer of Graham, Jaxson Hayes, Temple and a LAL or MIL pick?

Brogdon/CJ/Ingram/Zion/Val is pretty interesting.

[Scoot McGroot]

What are you guys expecting to happen with Brogdon, and if he is sold off, what do you think it takes to get into the conversation?

Would Quickley/Grimes/Reddish + 2 top-10 protected FRPs get us into the mix? Or would your FO be looking for more of a 4 in any Brogdon deal?

I think we would be moving Brogdon to build the forwards, and because we have too many guards, so dealing Brogdon for 2 more guards likely doesn't do much. Probably some kind of SF/PF would be the focus, along with value in draft picks?

Gotcha. So Reddish should be more interesting to your FO than Grimes since Grimes is more of a 2/3 than a 3/4, and Grimes should be more interesting than Quickley since IQ is just a guard?

Would Reddish (or Grimes) + our FRP this year* + whichever of our FRPs is highest next year, be in the right area? Or are they just not interesting enough wing prospects to be the centerpieces of a Brogdon trade this summer? We have the draft capital to sweeten the pot if one of them is intriguing enough, but if we're talking Toppin++...nevermind Barrett...then we're probably going to be priced out.


*assuming that the lotto gods don't hook us up

I don’t know that Reddish would hold much value. We tried to get him, but for a second or two. We weren’t willing to include a first, so I doubt he’d be a centerpiece for a Brogdon.

I think you’re trying to do all the odds and ends and not a centerpiece. And Indy would want a centerpiece for Brogdon. A great pick or something.

[Scoot McGroot]

Maybe the Pels swoop in with an offer of Graham, Jaxson Hayes, Temple and a LAL or MIL pick?

Brogdon/CJ/Ingram/Zion/Val is pretty interesting.

That wouldn’t really get you listened to unless the La pick is really good.

[zimpy27]

Brogdon for Davion+Barnes