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Zach LaVine for Ben Simmons

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:54 am
by babyjax13
Chicago trades: (S+T) Zach LaVine, + ???
Brooklyn trades: Ben Simmons, + ???

In the unlikely scenario that LaVine decides he wants out of Chicago, is this the best return that the Bulls could get for him? Brooklyn adds a durable star player who has been the first fiddle on a playoff team (or second fiddle...or co-fiddle, idk) while Chicago recoups a different young star. They likely transition into a soft rebuild by moving DeRozan and Vooch for younger players/picks and building around Simmons/Williams.

Re: Zach LaVine for Ben Simmons

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:26 am
by pipfan
Due to sign and trade rules, can't happen. Bulls can only take back half of Lavine's salary-which means they would have to send someone like Vuc into cap space somewhere else

Re: Zach LaVine for Ben Simmons

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:52 am
by psman2
Brooklyn tax apron issue…Chicago BYC issues.

Re: Zach LaVine for Ben Simmons

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:16 am
by Resistance
I don't know of a list specific to the Apron (Hard Cap), but the Luxury Tax List should give a general idea of which teams will have Apron (Hard Cap) issues doing a Sign & Trade for LaVine.

Salary Cap............$122 million
Luxury Tax Line......$149 million
Apron (Hard Cap)....$155.7 million

Roughly 1/3 of the league will 'be really close or over the Apron (Hard Cap) with a LaVine Sign & Trade depending on the salary going out.

Luxury Tax List


The BYC stuff is a different roadblock to navigate around.

Re: Zach LaVine for Ben Simmons

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:34 am
by DoItALL9
A sign and trade would not be unnecessary now but would this not still be viable?

Does either side need to add more here?

Re: Zach LaVine for Ben Simmons

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 5:50 am
by OxAndFox
DoItALL9 wrote:A sign and trade would not be unnecessary now but would this not still be viable?

Does either side need to add more here?


Both sides need to add a jumpshot.

Re: Zach LaVine for Ben Simmons

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 6:34 am
by TheBrooklynKidd
DoItALL9 wrote:A sign and trade would not be unnecessary now but would this not still be viable?

Does either side need to add more here?


I don’t think Brooklyn wants anything to do with Lavine.

They currently have Cam Thomas at the 2 and are publicly chasing Donovan Mitchell.

Re: Zach LaVine for Ben Simmons

Posted: Sun Feb 4, 2024 6:43 am
by babyjax13
I think it makes sense now with no incentive. Chicago gets out of LaVine early, Brooklyn gets a player who is generally pretty available and can be used as ballast for a sign and trade for a different star (if Mitchell wants to come).