NY/ATL/DAL

[nykballa2k4]

Knicks are probably getting Brunson (and overpaying financially to do so) Right now, IIRC if they renounce Taj they have 20M cap room. ATL is trying to clear some money on their end as well.
Knicks send Alec Burks (9.5M) to ATL send Quickley(2.2M) to DAL
ATL sends Bogdanovic (18M) to DAL
DAL sends Brunson (25M) to NYK

New York doesn't get the point guard they want, but gets the point guard they deserve. All the collusion stuff (agent, dad is coach), D-Rose was a mentor, Randle was on the scouting trip, etc... No FRP were harmed. IQ is a loss, but I think the team is more attached to Grimes/McBride and there just is not playing time for everyone.

ATL gets a good role player/back up at half the price of their current guy. Cap savings seems to be a priority.

DAL would probably rather keep Brunson, but getting someone who could start and can do some playmaking would be nice assuming Brunson says he is leaving no matter what. IQ provides a good combo to go with a taller playmaking guard as he is more of a scorer than a passer. Working with Kidd could do him wonders as well.

Dallas could pursue pure cap space from NY, but they are looking to compete now and a TPE or just cap space is not going to land them anything useful.

[Mykhyn]

Deal hinges on Atlanta.

I like it for the Mavs, I think the Knicks would do it.

I'm just not sure if Hawks would do that swap. They might with the cap savings though

I love the trade for Dallas a lot

[cgf]

Wait, why are we giving Quickley away?

[Captain_Obvious]

We can only take back half of Brunson's first year. I would love this trade but think its not possible.

However, if the numbers currently circulating are true then it becomes close. 35M that is. God help us.

[Knickfan1982]

Knicks are probably getting Brunson (and overpaying financially to do so) Right now, IIRC if they renounce Taj they have 20M cap room. ATL is trying to clear some money on their end as well.
Knicks send Alec Burks (9.5M) to ATL send Quickley(2.2M) to DAL
ATL sends Bogdanovic (18M) to DAL
DAL sends Brunson (25M) to NYK

New York doesn't get the point guard they want, but gets the point guard they deserve. All the collusion stuff (agent, dad is coach), D-Rose was a mentor, Randle was on the scouting trip, etc... No FRP were harmed. IQ is a loss, but I think the team is more attached to Grimes/McBride and there just is not playing time for everyone.

ATL gets a good role player/back up at half the price of their current guy. Cap savings seems to be a priority.

DAL would probably rather keep Brunson, but getting someone who could start and can do some playmaking would be nice assuming Brunson says he is leaving no matter what. IQ provides a good combo to go with a taller playmaking guard as he is more of a scorer than a passer. Working with Kidd could do him wonders as well.

Dallas could pursue pure cap space from NY, but they are looking to compete now and a TPE or just cap space is not going to land them anything useful.

No reason for the Knicks to include Quickley.

[Mavrelous]

Deal is illegal due to BYC, but Mavs have THJ, Bullock and Luka taking all the minutes at the 2-3, Ntilikina, Green and Hardy provide emergency minutes, if they go for another wing, he would need to bring defense and be less expensive.

[timani]

I'd rather do a straight swap of Brunson for Burks and Dallas' '23 pick back from the Knicks. Mavs need a backup wing and getting their pick back means they can immediately trade 1sts if they want to.

[Captain_Obvious]

I'd rather do a straight swap of Brunson for Burks and Dallas' '23 pick back from the Knicks. Mavs need a backup wing and getting their pick back means they can immediately trade 1sts if they want to.

And Brunson gets his 5th year. Yeah, that would be the prize.

[Texas Chuck]

So lets clear up some stuff:

Brunson can't get 5 years from any team but Dallas, even in a S&T.
Dallas is paying tax on every dollar they take back in a Brunson deal so Bogdan and IQ need to be worth roughly double their combined salary to a team that would still have Luka, Bullock, Dinwiddie, and THJ as their top 4 guards---seems highly unlikely.
BYC means Dallas can't take back this much salary so they'd have to send something else out, but all their filler salary got used up in the Wood deal so its very difficult to pull off.

I'd say Dallas just lets Brunson walk over this. It's not that Bogdan isn't a good player, he is. Or that IQ isn't intriguing. He is. But Dallas can't spend that much money when they already have solid role players at those positions and they are a tax team.

[jayjaysee]

Sorry but Dallas just takes Alec and Quickley here.

And honestly, NY probably can dump Alec on some team and not need to pay Dallas anything.

[Michaellam1987]

NYK can easily dump Burk's contract, without giving up Quickley. If I am DAL, I will not give up anything key to DAL for sign and trade of Brunson, at most a future 2nd round pick. That's it.

[zimpy27]

If Dallas can get IQ back for Brunson then I'd be thrilled if I were a Mavs fan. I might prefer IQ than Brunson as the starting PG in Dallas over the next 5 years.


No chance though, Knicks will take Brunson without helping Dallas, especially because Knicks have the Dallas 23 FRP. They benefit from Dallas being bad.

[Apz]

If Dallas can get IQ back for Brunson then I'd be thrilled if I were a Mavs fan. I might prefer IQ than Brunson as the starting PG in Dallas over the next 5 years.


No chance though, Knicks will take Brunson without helping Dallas, especially because Knicks have the Dallas 23 FRP. They benefit from Dallas being bad.

Mavs will never be bad. And question is who u prefer as sg, cause luka is the pg in mavs

[BeiBeau]

If Dallas can get IQ back for Brunson then I'd be thrilled if I were a Mavs fan. I might prefer IQ than Brunson as the starting PG in Dallas over the next 5 years.


No chance though, Knicks will take Brunson without helping Dallas, especially because Knicks have the Dallas 23 FRP. They benefit from Dallas being bad.

Is Grimes a cheaper get as a Brunson replacement? Not a Knicks fan so I don’t know but he’s a the better defender right?

I think NYK will have a harder time dumping Burke(because of the surgery) and Noel then people suggest on here. I don’t know which contenders have TPE’s to take them and I don’t then teams with space will take them before free agency because they’re all going to try and sign the guys they like. So basically the question is if Brunson wants to leave what is the price that Dallas gets paid to facilitate that?

Also Luka, me, my wife, my dog, and a friend is a 6th seed in the west so no chance they’re bad unless Luka goes down mid season.

[zimpy27]

If Dallas can get IQ back for Brunson then I'd be thrilled if I were a Mavs fan. I might prefer IQ than Brunson as the starting PG in Dallas over the next 5 years.


No chance though, Knicks will take Brunson without helping Dallas, especially because Knicks have the Dallas 23 FRP. They benefit from Dallas being bad.

Is Grimes a cheaper get as a Brunson replacement? Not a Knicks fan so I don’t know but he’s a the better defender right?

I think NYK will have a harder time dumping Burke(because of the surgery) and Noel then people suggest on here. I don’t know which contenders have TPE’s to take them and I don’t then teams with space will take them before free agency because they’re all going to try and sign the guys they like. So basically the question is if Brunson wants to leave what is the price that Dallas gets paid to facilitate that?

Also Luka, me, my wife, my dog, and a friend is a 6th seed in the west so no chance they’re bad unless Luka goes down mid season.

Well they benefit from every slot down the standings that the Mavs are at.

I think Burks is your best bet but I still don't think Knicks do it unless they really can't find any other takers.