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LAL-UTA-INDI (No Mitchell)
LAL In: Bojan, Turner
LAL Out: 2027 1st, 2029 1st, Russ
Indi In: Conley, LAL 1st
Indi Out: Turner
UTA In: Russ, LAL 1st
UTA Out: Conley
Lakers can add a couple 2nds if needed
Lakers get two rotation guys and keep cap space for next summer if needed
Indi gets a 1st for Turner and get Conley as a mentor for Haliburton
Jazz get a 1st while they continue to rebuild and get assets
The Indi deal with LA for 2 1sts for Hield and Turner seems a bit much, but this feels better
LAL Out: 2027 1st, 2029 1st, Russ
Indi In: Conley, LAL 1st
Indi Out: Turner
UTA In: Russ, LAL 1st
UTA Out: Conley
Lakers can add a couple 2nds if needed
Lakers get two rotation guys and keep cap space for next summer if needed
Indi gets a 1st for Turner and get Conley as a mentor for Haliburton
Jazz get a 1st while they continue to rebuild and get assets
The Indi deal with LA for 2 1sts for Hield and Turner seems a bit much, but this feels better
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Indiana isn't taking on Conley next year and giving up Myles for a singular first
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Yeah Conley is seen as a negative contract.
Maybe if Beasley went to Pacers then it could work. Beasley fits the developing Pacers timeline and has a TO that could be valuable.
Maybe if Beasley went to Pacers then it could work. Beasley fits the developing Pacers timeline and has a TO that could be valuable.
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zimpy27 wrote:Yeah Conley is seen as a negative contract.
Maybe if Beasley went to Pacers then it could work. Beasley fits the developing Pacers timeline and has a TO that could be valuable.
Would still be best if Beasley went to another team (or Conley). Beasley is still best as a pure SG, and Indy would have even less minutes for him as they’d still Buddy in this scenario, to go along with Mathurin, Duarte, Haliburton, McConnell, Nembhard, Nesmith, etc all needing minutes at the guard spots. We could always just waive him, but seems a waste? Waiving Westbrook is fine. He wouldn’t have any value on the market and can’t be kept in any way. Waiving Conley could make sense, even with the future money, if the payment was right (it’s not, here).
I guess send a Beasley home until his 3rd trade this offseason?
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How about:
Lakers get: Turner, Beasley, Conley
Why? Conley is overpaid, but still servicable as a point guard. Beasley shoots 3s really well and can defend some. Turner puts AD at the 4 on defense and provide spacing on offense.
Indy get: Bojan + cash + 2027 1st
Why? They get a 1st for Turner. Can either buy out Bojan, flip him at the deadline og just let him play .
Utah get: Westbrook + 2029 1st
Why? Get a pick. Initially save 10M in 2022-23 as well as Conley's salary the following year. Can buy out Westbrook as well.
Lakers get: Turner, Beasley, Conley
Why? Conley is overpaid, but still servicable as a point guard. Beasley shoots 3s really well and can defend some. Turner puts AD at the 4 on defense and provide spacing on offense.
Indy get: Bojan + cash + 2027 1st
Why? They get a 1st for Turner. Can either buy out Bojan, flip him at the deadline og just let him play .
Utah get: Westbrook + 2029 1st
Why? Get a pick. Initially save 10M in 2022-23 as well as Conley's salary the following year. Can buy out Westbrook as well.
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DanishLakerFan wrote:How about:
Lakers get: Turner, Beasley, Conley
Why? Conley is overpaid, but still servicable as a point guard. Beasley shoots 3s really well and can defend some. Turner puts AD at the 4 on defense and provide spacing on offense.
Indy get: Bojan + cash + 2027 1st
Why? They get a 1st for Turner. Can either buy out Bojan, flip him at the deadline og just let him play .
Utah get: Westbrook + 2029 1st
Why? Get a pick. Initially save 10M in 2022-23 as well as Conley's salary the following year. Can buy out Westbrook as well.
You're missing another pick going to the Jazz.....
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DanishLakerFan wrote:How about:
Lakers get: Turner, Beasley, Conley
Why? Conley is overpaid, but still servicable as a point guard. Beasley shoots 3s really well and can defend some. Turner puts AD at the 4 on defense and provide spacing on offense.
Indy get: Bojan + cash + 2027 1st
Why? They get a 1st for Turner. Can either buy out Bojan, flip him at the deadline og just let him play .
Utah get: Westbrook + 2029 1st
Why? Get a pick. Initially save 10M in 2022-23 as well as Conley's salary the following year. Can buy out Westbrook as well.
Is LA really willing to add an extra $10m in salary immediately onto the books (with a resulting additional $40m in luxury tax payment, approximately)?
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red4hf wrote:DanishLakerFan wrote:How about:
Lakers get: Turner, Beasley, Conley
Why? Conley is overpaid, but still servicable as a point guard. Beasley shoots 3s really well and can defend some. Turner puts AD at the 4 on defense and provide spacing on offense.
Indy get: Bojan + cash + 2027 1st
Why? They get a 1st for Turner. Can either buy out Bojan, flip him at the deadline og just let him play .
Utah get: Westbrook + 2029 1st
Why? Get a pick. Initially save 10M in 2022-23 as well as Conley's salary the following year. Can buy out Westbrook as well.
You're missing another pick going to the Jazz.....
I suppose the Lakers could throw in a minor contract - like rookie Max Christie and perhaps a 2nd rounder. But they dont have much else to give.
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Scoot McGroot wrote:DanishLakerFan wrote:How about:
Lakers get: Turner, Beasley, Conley
Why? Conley is overpaid, but still servicable as a point guard. Beasley shoots 3s really well and can defend some. Turner puts AD at the 4 on defense and provide spacing on offense.
Indy get: Bojan + cash + 2027 1st
Why? They get a 1st for Turner. Can either buy out Bojan, flip him at the deadline og just let him play .
Utah get: Westbrook + 2029 1st
Why? Get a pick. Initially save 10M in 2022-23 as well as Conley's salary the following year. Can buy out Westbrook as well.
Is LA really willing to add an extra $10m in salary immediately onto the books (with a resulting additional $40m in luxury tax payment, approximately)?
The LA front office has been a mess ever since Dr. Buss died, so who the hell knows. They wasted the later part of Kobe's career and are on their way to do the same with Lebron.
Lebron and AD at their best is second to none in the entire league in my opinion, so they should do/spend whatever is needed to put them in position to succeed these next couple of seasons.
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I have Indy trying to cut out Utah, sending Buddy Hield and pocketing the other 1st
investigate Adam Silver
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Scoot McGroot wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Yeah Conley is seen as a negative contract.
Maybe if Beasley went to Pacers then it could work. Beasley fits the developing Pacers timeline and has a TO that could be valuable.
Would still be best if Beasley went to another team (or Conley). Beasley is still best as a pure SG, and Indy would have even less minutes for him as they’d still Buddy in this scenario, to go along with Mathurin, Duarte, Haliburton, McConnell, Nembhard, Nesmith, etc all needing minutes at the guard spots. We could always just waive him, but seems a waste? Waiving Westbrook is fine. He wouldn’t have any value on the market and can’t be kept in any way. Waiving Conley could make sense, even with the future money, if the payment was right (it’s not, here).
I guess send a Beasley home until his 3rd trade this offseason?
Yeah that wouldn't work then. I picked Beasley because he's the youngest player of their bunch.
Do any of these Utah pieces make sense as matching salary for Turner? Conley, Clarkson, Beasley, Bojan?
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KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:I have Indy trying to cut out Utah, sending Buddy Hield and pocketing the other 1st
The possible dilemna here is the Lakers wanting to keep cap space for next year and Hield has 2 years
Hield is a negative contract
He is a very poor defender and more of a speciality player, not great for the playoffs
Turner is worth a 1st imo, but would likely only get a late 1st and would be packaged with a meh deal or two
Russ is worth a 1st to dump
So its a 1st for Turner and a 1st for Russ, but Hield is a negative to me
So who will budge? Something has to be removed/added depending on the party
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zimpy27 wrote:Scoot McGroot wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Yeah Conley is seen as a negative contract.
Maybe if Beasley went to Pacers then it could work. Beasley fits the developing Pacers timeline and has a TO that could be valuable.
Would still be best if Beasley went to another team (or Conley). Beasley is still best as a pure SG, and Indy would have even less minutes for him as they’d still Buddy in this scenario, to go along with Mathurin, Duarte, Haliburton, McConnell, Nembhard, Nesmith, etc all needing minutes at the guard spots. We could always just waive him, but seems a waste? Waiving Westbrook is fine. He wouldn’t have any value on the market and can’t be kept in any way. Waiving Conley could make sense, even with the future money, if the payment was right (it’s not, here).
I guess send a Beasley home until his 3rd trade this offseason?
Yeah that wouldn't work then. I picked Beasley because he's the youngest player of their bunch.
Do any of these Utah pieces make sense as matching salary for Turner? Conley, Clarkson, Beasley, Bojan?
Bojan’s usable for a year, but holds absolutely no future value to Indy. If someone would count him as positive value, he should likely go there.
The rest are just absolutely superfluous to Indy, and maybe, at best, just in the way?
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nzahir wrote:KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:I have Indy trying to cut out Utah, sending Buddy Hield and pocketing the other 1st
The possible dilemna here is the Lakers wanting to keep cap space for next year and Hield has 2 years
Hield is a negative contract
He is a very poor defender and more of a speciality player, not great for the playoffs
Turner is worth a 1st imo, but would likely only get a late 1st and would be packaged with a meh deal or two
Russ is worth a 1st to dump
So its a 1st for Turner and a 1st for Russ, but Hield is a negative to me
So who will budge? Something has to be removed/added depending on the party
Indy has the cap space to essentially do Myles for Russ. The issue is that LA WANTS Buddy, but also wants to lessen the return for getting the player they really want? And Indy has no need or want to pay (or give up extra value they would otherwise receive in a deal) by including Buddy.
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DanishLakerFan wrote:How about:
Lakers get: Turner, Beasley, Conley
Why? Conley is overpaid, but still servicable as a point guard. Beasley shoots 3s really well and can defend some. Turner puts AD at the 4 on defense and provide spacing on offense.
Indy get: Bojan + cash + 2027 1st
Why? They get a 1st for Turner. Can either buy out Bojan, flip him at the deadline og just let him play .
Utah get: Westbrook + 2029 1st
Why? Get a pick. Initially save 10M in 2022-23 as well as Conley's salary the following year. Can buy out Westbrook as well.
Dont see why the lakers want Conley, they have beverly.
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DanishLakerFan wrote:How about:
Lakers get: Turner, Beasley, Conley
Why? Conley is overpaid, but still servicable as a point guard. Beasley shoots 3s really well and can defend some. Turner puts AD at the 4 on defense and provide spacing on offense.
Indy get: Bojan + cash + 2027 1st
Why? They get a 1st for Turner. Can either buy out Bojan, flip him at the deadline og just let him play .
Utah get: Westbrook + 2029 1st
Why? Get a pick. Initially save 10M in 2022-23 as well as Conley's salary the following year. Can buy out Westbrook as well.
You got one part of Beasley's description right , he can shoot 3's
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