Make Your Best Offer: Gordon Hayward
Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 4:07 pm
What would the Hornets want for Hayward? Which teams would make such an offer?
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Wolveswin wrote:How much value are Hornets willing to add to Hayward?
Is Hayward playing well enough to not be considered negative value?
Colbinii wrote:Wolveswin wrote:How much value are Hornets willing to add to Hayward?
Is Hayward playing well enough to not be considered negative value?
He is negative value
Colbinii wrote:Wolveswin wrote:How much value are Hornets willing to add to Hayward?
Is Hayward playing well enough to not be considered negative value?
He is negative value
NYG wrote:Colbinii wrote:Wolveswin wrote:How much value are Hornets willing to add to Hayward?
Is Hayward playing well enough to not be considered negative value?
He is negative value
So the Knicks could get him for Fournier and Rose?
NYG wrote:Colbinii wrote:Wolveswin wrote:How much value are Hornets willing to add to Hayward?
Is Hayward playing well enough to not be considered negative value?
He is negative value
So the Knicks could get him for Fournier and Rose?
Wolveswin wrote:NYG wrote:Colbinii wrote:
He is negative value
So the Knicks could get him for Fournier and Rose?
Why would Knicks do that? Fournier last year is TO, so he is same length as Hayward but less money. Rose is expiring on TO. Knicks would say no to Hayward zapping their cap flexibility.
NYG wrote:Wolveswin wrote:NYG wrote:
So the Knicks could get him for Fournier and Rose?
Why would Knicks do that? Fournier last year is TO, so he is same length as Hayward but less money. Rose is expiring on TO. Knicks would say no to Hayward zapping their cap flexibility.
Hayward has been pretty bad when healthy I guess? I don't watch a ton of Charlotte games
Scoot McGroot wrote:NYG wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Why would Knicks do that? Fournier last year is TO, so he is same length as Hayward but less money. Rose is expiring on TO. Knicks would say no to Hayward zapping their cap flexibility.
Hayward has been pretty bad when healthy I guess? I don't watch a ton of Charlotte games
Charlotte is 7-12 when Hayward plays. They’re 3-14 when he doesn’t play. I think they’d say that he’s still a major positive impact on winning for them.
Wolveswin wrote:To try and find a solution…
Hayward
FOR
Robinson + Dipo
Heat shorten their years owed bad money and align to when Lowry expires.
Hornets take flyer on player young enough to take flyer in Robinson. Dipo most likely opts out of PO and ring chases.
Topofthekey wrote:Wolveswin wrote:To try and find a solution…
Hayward
FOR
Robinson + Dipo
Heat shorten their years owed bad money and align to when Lowry expires.
Hornets take flyer on player young enough to take flyer in Robinson. Dipo most likely opts out of PO and ring chases.
Duncan Robinson is going to be 29 by the end of the season
He's not a young player
Topofthekey wrote:Wolveswin wrote:To try and find a solution…
Hayward
FOR
Robinson + Dipo
Heat shorten their years owed bad money and align to when Lowry expires.
Hornets take flyer on player young enough to take flyer in Robinson. Dipo most likely opts out of PO and ring chases.
Duncan Robinson is going to be 29 by the end of the season
He's not a young player
Resistance wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Wolveswin wrote:To try and find a solution…
Hayward
FOR
Robinson + Dipo
Heat shorten their years owed bad money and align to when Lowry expires.
Hornets take flyer on player young enough to take flyer in Robinson. Dipo most likely opts out of PO and ring chases.
Duncan Robinson is going to be 29 by the end of the season
He's not a young player
Hayward
Born: March 23, 1990 (Age: 32-283d) in Indianapolis, Indiana
Scoot McGroot wrote:NYG wrote:Wolveswin wrote:Why would Knicks do that? Fournier last year is TO, so he is same length as Hayward but less money. Rose is expiring on TO. Knicks would say no to Hayward zapping their cap flexibility.
Hayward has been pretty bad when healthy I guess? I don't watch a ton of Charlotte games
Charlotte is 7-12 when Hayward plays. They’re 3-14 when he doesn’t play. I think they’d say that he’s still a major positive impact on winning for them.
Colbinii wrote:Scoot McGroot wrote:NYG wrote:
Hayward has been pretty bad when healthy I guess? I don't watch a ton of Charlotte games
Charlotte is 7-12 when Hayward plays. They’re 3-14 when he doesn’t play. I think they’d say that he’s still a major positive impact on winning for them.
Keep in mind 8 of the 19 games Hayward played in were with Ball [Ball has played in just 12 games].
The sample size is really small [19 games with, 17 games without] and his +/- family numbers aren't great [+4.4 On/Off].
Hayward is still a positive player [I wouldnt say major but thats a subjective term] but he misses time [a lot of time] which doesn't justify his current contract.
I dont see Charlotte doing the deal unless one of the protected 1sts are coming back.
Fournier + Rose + Protected 1st which becomes 2nds for Hayward
Wolveswin wrote:Resistance wrote:Topofthekey wrote:Duncan Robinson is going to be 29 by the end of the season
He's not a young player
Hayward
Born: March 23, 1990 (Age: 32-283d) in Indianapolis, Indiana
Read post exchange again. Top of the key was aging Robinson by a year, Hayward gets same.
Resistance wrote:Wolveswin wrote:
Read post exchange again. Top of the key was aging Robinson by a year, Hayward gets same.
I am not assigning any upside to Robinson. Just that Hayward is (4) years older and declining.