IF Giannis requests a trade out of MKE real potential offers

Buckfan76 · Post #1 » by **Buckfan76** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 10:09 am

As a Bucks fan hypothetical IF Giannis would request a trade out of MKE what are some real potential offers? PLEASE no bull crap offers.

Off the top of my head teams that would throw an offer:

Knicks: Barrett, Quickley, Randle, TONS of picks
Rockets: Some sort of mix of Smith Jr., J. Green, KPJ, and tons of picks
OKC: Chet, Dort or Giddey, Bertans, and tons of picks.

I know there's others but I don't think Lakers have anything to deal, also the Clippers. As a Bucks fan not sure I would want to trade Giannis to Miami, Philly, or Boston.

jayjaysee · Post #2 » by **jayjaysee** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:15 am

One of the two best players in the league, with at least a few years left of his prime, under contract for this year and another..

Milwaukee would return an entire rebuild if they decided to trade him.

I think you keep him and get another deep playoff run and if he still wants out, trade him on draft night.

If it’s ugly and public, I think Presti would be the top bid... Pairing SGA, Giannis and 1-2 of Chet/Williams/Giddey with the strong depth OKC would still have feels worth giving up 2 of the four and a good amount of additional draft value. Which tops anyone else’s offer like normal.

Post #3 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:21 am

I’d do anything not SGA I mean it’s Giannis after all. But I think OKC could still beat most offers without having to put the all of best pieces on the table.

As the Bucks though you move heaven and earth to make sure he stays in Milwaukee before you even think about trading him. I just don’t see how you could possibly deal him he’s too good and too young.

Wolveswin · Post #4 » by **Wolveswin** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:27 am

To Pelicans: Giannis + Holiday + Thanasis

To Bucks: Zion + Daniels + McCollum + All Bucks 1sts/Swaps (returned) + 24 or 25 Lakers 1st + 24/26/28/30 Pelicans 1sts

facothomas22 · Post #5 » by **facothomas22** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:11 pm

Giannis trades.

Knicks

Julius Randle + Iammanuel Quickley + Quentin Grimes + Knicks 2024/2026/2028/2030 1st round pick + Mavericks 2024 1st round pick(top 10 protected) + Bucks 2025 1st round pick(picks 5-30 returned)

Thunder

Chet Holmgren + Cason Wallace + Jalen Williams + Davis Bertans + Clippers 2024/2026 1st round pick + Rockets 2024/2026 1st round pick(top 4 protected) +Jazz 2024 1st round pick(top 10 protected) + Heat 2025 1st round pick

Pelicans

Zion Williamson + Dyson Daniels + Trey Murphy + All of the Bucks picks returned, Lakers 2024 or 2025 1st round pick + Pelicans 2028/2030 1st round picks

Heat

Bam Adebayo + JJJ + Nikola Jovic + Tyler Herro + the Heat 2028/2030 1st round pick, Heat 2027 and 2029 pick swap option

Hawks

Dejounte Murray + Kobe Bufkin + Onyeka Okongwu + AJ Griffin + Deandre Hunter + Kings 2024 1st round pick + Hawks 2029 1st round pick, Hawks 2030 pick swap option

Celtics

Jaylen Brown + Robert Williams + Jordan Walsh + Warriors 2024 1st round pick(top 4 protected) + Celtics 2024 1st round pick + Celtics 2026 1st round pick + Celtics 2028 1st round pick + Celtics 2030 1st round pick

shrink · Post #6 » by **shrink** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:24 pm

jayjaysee wrote:One of the two best players in the league, with at least a few years left of his prime, under contract for this year and another..

Milwaukee would return an entire rebuild if they decided to trade him.

I agree on value, but I’m curious on direction. If Horst has to trade Giannis, does he bring back a star to try to still win another championship? Like most contenders, the team already has many very good players, but the talent is older. Jrue is 33, Middleton is 32, Brook Lopez is 35. Could they win with someone with the talent-level of a Kevin Durant? Or is the more likely answer that they put everyone on the block, even if they get pennies on the dollar for the other older vets?

Post #7 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:26 pm

facothomas22 wrote:Giannis trades.

Knicks

Julius Randle + Iammanuel Quickley + Quentin Grimes + Knicks 2024/2026/2028/2030 1st round pick + Mavericks 2024 1st round pick(top 10 protected) + Bucks 2025 1st round pick(picks 5-30 returned)

Thunder

Chet Holmgren + Cason Wallace + Jalen Williams + Davis Bertans + Clippers 2024/2026 1st round pick + Rockets 2024/2026 1st round pick(top 4 protected) +Jazz 2024 1st round pick(top 10 protected) + Heat 2025 1st round pick

Pelicans

Zion Williamson + Dyson Daniels + Trey Murphy + All of the Bucks picks returned, Lakers 2024 or 2025 1st round pick + Pelicans 2028/2030 1st round picks

Heat

Bam Adebayo + JJJ + Nikola Jovic + Tyler Herro + the Heat 2028/2030 1st round pick, Heat 2027 and 2029 pick swap option

Hawks

Dejounte Murray + Kobe Bufkin + Onyeka Okongwu + AJ Griffin + Deandre Hunter + Kings 2024 1st round pick + Hawks 2029 1st round pick, Hawks 2030 pick swap option

That Knicks package wouldn’t get a call back. The Hawks the same I think but the Bucks wouldn’t be as offended.

facothomas22 · Post #8 » by **facothomas22** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:31 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
facothomas22 wrote:Giannis trades.

Knicks

Julius Randle + Iammanuel Quickley + Quentin Grimes + Knicks 2024/2026/2028/2030 1st round pick + Mavericks 2024 1st round pick(top 10 protected) + Bucks 2025 1st round pick(picks 5-30 returned)

Thunder

Chet Holmgren + Cason Wallace + Jalen Williams + Davis Bertans + Clippers 2024/2026 1st round pick + Rockets 2024/2026 1st round pick(top 4 protected) +Jazz 2024 1st round pick(top 10 protected) + Heat 2025 1st round pick

Pelicans

Zion Williamson + Dyson Daniels + Trey Murphy + All of the Bucks picks returned, Lakers 2024 or 2025 1st round pick + Pelicans 2028/2030 1st round picks

Heat

Bam Adebayo + JJJ + Nikola Jovic + Tyler Herro + the Heat 2028/2030 1st round pick, Heat 2027 and 2029 pick swap option

Hawks

Dejounte Murray + Kobe Bufkin + Onyeka Okongwu + AJ Griffin + Deandre Hunter + Kings 2024 1st round pick + Hawks 2029 1st round pick, Hawks 2030 pick swap option

That Knicks package wouldn’t get a call back. The Hawks the same I think but the Bucks wouldn’t be as offended.

What else would the Knicks and Hawks need to add in order to make this atleast somewhat close? Jalen Brunson is off the table and the Pistons/Wizards picks don't hold a ton a of value, so I really don't know what the Knicks would be able to do. As for the Hawks, would replacing Dejounte Murray with Trae Young make a significant difference or would this still not be close?

Colbinii · Post #9 » by **Colbinii** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:49 pm

facothomas22 wrote:
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
facothomas22 wrote:Giannis trades.

Knicks

Julius Randle + Iammanuel Quickley + Quentin Grimes + Knicks 2024/2026/2028/2030 1st round pick + Mavericks 2024 1st round pick(top 10 protected) + Bucks 2025 1st round pick(picks 5-30 returned)

Thunder

Chet Holmgren + Cason Wallace + Jalen Williams + Davis Bertans + Clippers 2024/2026 1st round pick + Rockets 2024/2026 1st round pick(top 4 protected) +Jazz 2024 1st round pick(top 10 protected) + Heat 2025 1st round pick

Pelicans

Zion Williamson + Dyson Daniels + Trey Murphy + All of the Bucks picks returned, Lakers 2024 or 2025 1st round pick + Pelicans 2028/2030 1st round picks

Heat

Bam Adebayo + JJJ + Nikola Jovic + Tyler Herro + the Heat 2028/2030 1st round pick, Heat 2027 and 2029 pick swap option

Hawks

Dejounte Murray + Kobe Bufkin + Onyeka Okongwu + AJ Griffin + Deandre Hunter + Kings 2024 1st round pick + Hawks 2029 1st round pick, Hawks 2030 pick swap option

That Knicks package wouldn’t get a call back. The Hawks the same I think but the Bucks wouldn’t be as offended.

What else would the Knicks and Hawks need to add in order to make this atleast somewhat close? Jalen Brunson is off the table and the Pistons/Wizards picks don't hold a ton a of value, so I really don't know what the Knicks would be able to do. As for the Hawks, would replacing Dejounte Murray with Trae Young make a significant difference or would this still not be close?

Why is jalen brunson off the table?

Colbinii · Post #10 » by **Colbinii** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:49 pm

McDaniels + Towns

Wolveswin · Post #11 » by **Wolveswin** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:57 pm

Colbinii wrote:McDaniels + Towns

This is insulting to Bucks. It would take Edwards.

Giannis paired with Towns would be interesting and seems ideal. Giannis defense next to Towns shooting.

To Mavs: Gobert + 2x Bucks Filler (into TPE)

To Bucks: Edwards + Lively + Anderson + 27 Mavs 1st

To Wolves: Giannis + THJ + Holmes
Towns | Reid
Giannis | Holmes
McDaniels (take some D pressure off Giannis as he ages)
THJ | NAW
Conley

Post #12 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 12:57 pm

Colbinii wrote:McDaniels + Towns

That definitely wouldn’t get a call back.

Colbinii · Post #13 » by **Colbinii** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:04 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
Colbinii wrote:McDaniels + Towns

That definitely wouldn’t get a call back.

It is the best Minnesota can offer :lol:

shrink · Post #14 » by **shrink** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:06 pm

This isn’t just a trade for Giannis. It’s a trade for Giannis without a commitment to re-sign.

With that commitment, Giannis can bring back virtually any player in the NBA, including Ant. Without it though, MIN couldn’t risk losing Edwards, who is under contract through 2029 on the baby max.

Godaddycurse · Post #15 » by **Godaddycurse** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:08 pm

Wouldnt giannis dictate where he goes

Post #16 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:09 pm

shrink wrote:This isn’t just a trade for Giannis. It’s a trade for Giannis without a commitment to re-sign.

With that commitment, Giannis can bring back virtually any player in the NBA, including Ant. Without it though, MIN couldn’t risk losing Edwards, who is under contract for five more years.

Eh it’s still two full years of arguably the best player in the NBA in his prime. I don’t think Minny should trade Edwards for him but even without a commitment it should still be pretty close to virtually any player except the others in the argument for the top spots.

Post #17 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:12 pm

Godaddycurse wrote:Wouldnt giannis dictate where he goes

The answer is yes but he’s kind of interesting in terms of what he might be open to. From the accounts we have the only real gripe in Milwaukee here would be sustained winning and not market size location etc. so I’m not sure he would have a big market list.

Wolveswin · Post #18 » by **Wolveswin** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:13 pm

shrink wrote:This isn’t just a trade for Giannis. It’s a trade for Giannis without a commitment to re-sign.

With that commitment, Giannis can bring back virtually any player in the NBA, including Ant. Without it though, MIN couldn’t risk losing Edwards, who is under contract through 2029 on the baby max.

Even the great Shrink doesn’t know why Giannis won’t commit to re-sign in MKE. If some of those things (only Giannis knows) are addressed on NEW team, ownership gets a motivated Giannis. With that said…

Still will limit teams bidding and what offers are - unless Giannis commits to re-sign with NEW team that is his hand picked destination (see NBA trend) and addresses whatever concerns Giannis has in MKE.

shrink · Post #19 » by **shrink** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:13 pm

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:
shrink wrote:This isn’t just a trade for Giannis. It’s a trade for Giannis without a commitment to re-sign.

With that commitment, Giannis can bring back virtually any player in the NBA, including Ant. Without it though, MIN couldn’t risk losing Edwards, who is under contract for five more years.

Eh it’s still two full years of arguably the best player in the NBA in his prime. I don’t think Minny should trade Edwards for him but even without a commitment it should still be pretty close to virtually any player except the others in the argument for the top spots.

MIL is in the same boat MIN would be - non-destination, cold weather city with a player who might leave. We don’t know if Giannis unwillingness to extend (for a team that has done everything for him) will lead to a trade, but it does have talking heads considering the question, because a team can’t afford to lose a talent like that for nothing.

I think there is a vast difference in trade value between Giannis and an extended Giannis. And an extended Giannis wouldn’t even be available for trade.

shrink · Post #20 » by **shrink** » Wed Aug 30, 2023 1:16 pm

Wolveswin wrote:
shrink wrote:This isn’t just a trade for Giannis. It’s a trade for Giannis without a commitment to re-sign.

With that commitment, Giannis can bring back virtually any player in the NBA, including Ant. Without it though, MIN couldn’t risk losing Edwards, who is under contract through 2029 on the baby max.

Even the great Shrink doesn’t know why Giannis won’t commit to re-sign in MKE.

The great shrink knows you can’t value players without real extensions like they have imaginary extensions.