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Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:13 pm
by Texas Chuck
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Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:18 pm
by zimpy27
Is Kyrie still worth an FRP? He was just paid top dollar in offseason and his efficiency has taken a drop since then.
I also think Lakers look to tank in 27-28 season onwards.. so an FRP offer in 2029 seems like something they may not risk.
I suspect a Lakers deal would offer DLo+Rui and the extra value might be JHS (recent #17) and Christie.
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:25 pm
by daoneandonly
zimpy27 wrote:Is Kyrie still worth an FRP?
He was just paid top dollar in offseason and his efficiency has taken a drop since then.
I also think Lakers look to tank in 27-28 season onwards..
I suspect a Lakers deal would offer DLo+Rui and the extra value might be JHS (recent #17) and Christie.
Even with the reality that Dallas may not have leverage, zero reason to do this. D Lo sucks, and Rui is decent but nothing too special
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:25 pm
by Texas Chuck
zimpy27 wrote:Is Kyrie still worth an FRP?
He was just paid top dollar in offseason and his efficiency has taken a drop since then.
I also think Lakers look to tank in 27-28 season onwards..
I suspect a Lakers deal would offer DLo+Rui and the extra value might be JHS (recent #17) and Christie.
What is he worth? Great question. But in these types of deals there is usually something face-saving for the team trading the distressed star. Maybe that is young players as opposed to a pick, no idea. But I don't have his value as high and the pick might be as much for taking back players Dallas really doesn't want (Russell/Rui), you know?
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:26 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
zimpy27 wrote:Is Kyrie still worth an FRP? He was just paid top dollar in offseason and his efficiency has taken a drop since then.
I also think Lakers look to tank in 27-28 season onwards.. so an FRP offer in 2029 seems like something they may not risk.
I suspect a Lakers deal would offer DLo+Rui and the extra value might be JHS (recent #17) and Christie.
Conversely, Dallas has him locked up and doesn’t need to trade him. I would say Reeves or a 1st is likely needed.
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:27 pm
by 165bows
Shams says Boston likely to look for a depth guy. Who's got a cheap-ish guy who could play in the top-10 rotation for a playoff team?
Boston likely to trade at least one of their 2024 first or the 2024 Chicago second they have, and use either their TPE or some bench fillers to bring someone in.
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:28 pm
by daoneandonly
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Is Kyrie still worth an FRP? He was just paid top dollar in offseason and his efficiency has taken a drop since then.
I also think Lakers look to tank in 27-28 season onwards.. so an FRP offer in 2029 seems like something they may not risk.
I suspect a Lakers deal would offer DLo+Rui and the extra value might be JHS (recent #17) and Christie.
Conversely, Dallas has him locked up and doesn’t need to trade him. I would say Reeves or a 1st is likely needed.
Yea Chuck brought up a great point if he asks out of course that distresses his value. I'm trying to get ahead of that and trade him as soon as the restrictions are up
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:31 pm
by ThatBoyNick
165bows wrote:Shams says Boston likely to look for a depth guy. Who's got a cheap-ish guy who could play in the top-10 rotation for a playoff team?
Boston likely to trade at least one of their 2024 first or the 2024 Chicago second they have, and use either their TPE or some bench fillers to bring someone in.
Feel like Tate could fit as a target, with Brooks, Eason + Thompson/Whitmore seems like it could make sense to move him for draft capital
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:31 pm
by Mamba4Goat
Guys who cares about Kyrie? Let’s do what the title says and talk about Taylor Swift. Favorite songs of hers, go (Shake it Off is the right answer).
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:34 pm
by balsamic_ducks
165bows wrote:Shams says Boston likely to look for a depth guy. Who's got a cheap-ish guy who could play in the top-10 rotation for a playoff team?
Boston likely to trade at least one of their 2024 first or the 2024 Chicago second they have, and use either their TPE or some bench fillers to bring someone in.
How about Naji Marshall?
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:36 pm
by Texas Chuck
Mamba4Goat wrote:Guys who cares about Kyrie? Let’s do what the title says and talk about Taylor Swift. Favorite songs of hers, go (Shake it Off is the right answer).
I'm more a Blank Spaces guy.
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:37 pm
by Mamba4Goat
Texas Chuck wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:Guys who cares about Kyrie? Let’s do what the title says and talk about Taylor Swift. Favorite songs of hers, go (Shake it Off is the right answer).
I'm more a Blank Spaces guy.
Good choice. I can respect that.
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:40 pm
by 165bows
balsamic_ducks wrote:165bows wrote:Shams says Boston likely to look for a depth guy. Who's got a cheap-ish guy who could play in the top-10 rotation for a playoff team?
Boston likely to trade at least one of their 2024 first or the 2024 Chicago second they have, and use either their TPE or some bench fillers to bring someone in.
How about Naji Marshall?
You know, that's a guy I know very little about.

Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 9:58 pm
by daoneandonly
Mamba4Goat wrote:Texas Chuck wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:Guys who cares about Kyrie? Let’s do what the title says and talk about Taylor Swift. Favorite songs of hers, go (Shake it Off is the right answer).
I'm more a Blank Spaces guy.
Good choice. I can respect that.
Well I have an unrequited Love Story with the Mavs, so will always bring them up every which way
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 10:12 pm
by MoneyTalks41890
165bows wrote:balsamic_ducks wrote:165bows wrote:Shams says Boston likely to look for a depth guy. Who's got a cheap-ish guy who could play in the top-10 rotation for a playoff team?
Boston likely to trade at least one of their 2024 first or the 2024 Chicago second they have, and use either their TPE or some bench fillers to bring someone in.
How about Naji Marshall?
You know, that's a guy I know very little about.

Is there a position Boston is looking to bolster?
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 10:22 pm
by JHFVF07
daoneandonly wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Is Kyrie still worth an FRP?
He was just paid top dollar in offseason and his efficiency has taken a drop since then.
I also think Lakers look to tank in 27-28 season onwards..
I suspect a Lakers deal would offer DLo+Rui and the extra value might be JHS (recent #17) and Christie.
Even with the reality that Dallas may not have leverage, zero reason to do this. D Lo sucks, and Rui is decent but nothing too special
Continuing from the other thread, I think Dlo is a better player than Dinnwidie(PER, vorp, BPM, ws/48), and 3 year younger, locked on a friendly deal. DFS is better than Rui but not by much, and the Laker player is 5 year younger. So, I dont think we are too far from what you paid(a 1st?).
I think Dallas was expecting another synergie from Doncic and Irving duo. But from what you saw until now.
Dlo/Curry/Hardy
Doncic/Green
G Will/Green(or Prince)
Rui/Jones
Lively/????/Hayes(?)
Is this team worst than what you have now? You would have a lower ceiling, for sure, but when you add the Day to Day operation? Not having to worry with Irving?
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 10:26 pm
by Texas Chuck
JHFVF07 wrote:
Is this team worst than what you have now? You would have a lower ceiling, for sure, but when you add the Day to Day operation? Not having to worry with Irving?
Oh yeah its meaningfully worse. Kyrie can still take over games offensively. Russell and Rui are good, but far from great offensive players who offer nothing defensively. This makes Dallas 100% Luka reliant to create everything. Russell, THJ, Hardy, Rui trying to be your 2nd best offensive player is really really rough. And its not like Dallas is a defensive juggernaut.
I think an LA trade is still reasonably likely, but make no mistake Dallas suffers for it.
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 10:28 pm
by ejftw
Mamba4Goat wrote:Guys who cares about Kyrie? Let’s do what the title says and talk about Taylor Swift. Favorite songs of hers, go (Shake it Off is the right answer).
I knew this thread was gonna be trouble
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 10:31 pm
by cucad8
ejftw wrote:Mamba4Goat wrote:Guys who cares about Kyrie? Let’s do what the title says and talk about Taylor Swift. Favorite songs of hers, go (Shake it Off is the right answer).
I knew this was trouble when I walked in
So shame on me now
FTFY
Re: Thoughts in General, Random Rumors and Musings 13.0 Taylor Swift Edition
Posted: Tue Dec 5, 2023 10:32 pm
by cucad8
Mamba4Goat wrote:Guys who cares about Kyrie? Let’s do what the title says and talk about Taylor Swift. Favorite songs of hers, go (Shake it Off is the right answer).
Been on a bit of a "betty" kick lately, dunno why.