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Garland and Niang for Bridges and Dinwiddie.

Cleveland: they’ve been on a tear lately with Mitchell being the lead ball handler. They need more and better shooting around him and add a star on a good contract in Bridges. Letting Mitchell be the primary initiator on offense may also convince him to stay beyond his current contract. They also save some money next season.

Allen/Jones
Mobley/Wade
Bridges/Okoro
Strus/Levert
Mitchell/Dinwiddie

Brooklyn: they have an interesting mix of talent but they’re crying out for a point guard to get everyone in the right spots. Garland is about as good as point guards get in the NBA and is locked up. They could do some funky stuff on offense with Thomas and Johnson on the perimeter with Garland being among the best at passing out of the PnR.

Claxton/Giles?
DFS/O’Neale
Johnson/Niang
Thomas/Walker
Garland/Simmons/Smith

Apologies if this has been done already, had a quick search but couldn’t find anything. My sense is that both teams probably say no but both teams would be better post this trade (imo).

gotta be honest, that's a good trade i think nets would/should probably do. true basketball trades like that don't seem to happen anymore but that's a good one.

i have my doubts Cleveland goes for this, as they'll want Garland in the event that Mitchell could leave... but from the Brooklyn side, this is probably the only kind of return they'd accept for Bridges. It doesn't sound like they care about adding picks for a rebuild.

HornetJail wrote:i have my doubts Cleveland goes for this, as they'll want Garland in the event that Mitchell could leave... but from the Brooklyn side, this is probably the only kind of return they'd accept for Bridges. It doesn't sound like they care about adding picks for a rebuild.

You’re probably right but the fit of Mitchell and Bridges reminds me (sort of) of the Bridges/Booker tandem in PHX, if Mitchell gets the ball full time and enjoys playing with a wing like Bridges he might be closer to sticking around.

jarryd3107 wrote:

HornetJail wrote:i have my doubts Cleveland goes for this, as they'll want Garland in the event that Mitchell could leave... but from the Brooklyn side, this is probably the only kind of return they'd accept for Bridges. It doesn't sound like they care about adding picks for a rebuild.

You’re probably right but the fit of Mitchell and Bridges reminds me (sort of) of the Bridges/Booker tandem in PHX, if Mitchell gets the ball full time and enjoys playing with a wing like Bridges he might be closer to sticking around.

agreed- i think this waits till the offseason. I believe Mitchell is eligible for a massive extension then, right? If so, lock him down and then make this move.

In 12 months once Mitchell resigns on a max, this is a maybe for Cleveland if they have a poor playoff run.

Without Mitchell resigning, I’d say its not fixable for Cleveland

jayjaysee wrote:In 12 months once Mitchell resigns on a max, this is a maybe for Cleveland if they have a poor playoff run.

Without Mitchell resigning, I’d say its not fixable for Cleveland

That is where I am at too. Mitchell walks and Clev still has an engine. You make the trade now and Mitchell walks then Clev is screwed.

jayjaysee wrote:In 12 months once Mitchell resigns on a max, this is a maybe for Cleveland if they have a poor playoff run.

Without Mitchell resigning, I’d say its not fixable for Cleveland

Bridges is still really good. Not sure there’s that much daylight in value between him and Garland.

I’d do this in a heart beat if I were Cleveland; seems like the perfect way to incentivize Mitchell to extend. Build a team that can cover all his deficiencies and let him handle the ball as much as he wants.

The trade should be Mitchell and Strus for Bridges and Cam Johnson

bkohler wrote:I’d do this in a heart beat if I were Cleveland; seems like the perfect way to incentivize Mitchell to extend. Build a team that can cover all his deficiencies and let him handle the ball as much as he wants.

Which in turn seems the perfect way to incentivize me, and plenty of other Cavs fans, to tune out. Not interested in watching "The Great and Powerful Donovan Show" week in/week out. May as well then trade Mobley and Allen for 2 lumbering oafs to just sit under the ring, grab the board, and pass back out to Mitchell for another shot. I'm sure that's EXACTLY how Mobley envisaged his career going...

QMemphis wrote:The trade should be Mitchell and Strus for Bridges and Cam Johnson

No. Neither trade should happen. Mitchell or Garland.

Mitchell is Nets most likely candidate to acquire via 2025 free agency. One can’t trade for him (see exceptions below). One can’t trade for a questionable fit in Garland.

Only exception in trading for Mitchell is if Nets go all-in for Mitchell (because they want him now and confident he won’t bolt) AND another player to join him. Nets would spend all their assets but be left holding a big 3 in Mitchell | Bridges | X.

axeman23 wrote:

bkohler wrote:I’d do this in a heart beat if I were Cleveland; seems like the perfect way to incentivize Mitchell to extend. Build a team that can cover all his deficiencies and let him handle the ball as much as he wants.

Which in turn seems the perfect way to incentivize me, and plenty of other Cavs fans, to tune out. Not interested in watching "The Great and Powerful Donovan Show" week in/week out. May as well then trade Mobley and Allen for 2 lumbering oafs to just sit under the ring, grab the board, and pass back out to Mitchell for another shot. I'm sure that's EXACTLY how Mobley envisaged his career going...

It’s amazing as a Jazz fan how much I heard this same type of critique.

What if Wolves jump in deal as 3rd team?

To Nets: Towns + Cavs Filler

To Wolves: Garland

To Cavs: Bridges + DFS

Nets keep Mitchell in play 2025 offseason paired with Towns (vs Garland yet again).
Claxton
Towns
Johnson
Thomas
Dinwiddie

Cavs get Bridges plus.
Allen
Mobley
Bridges
Strus | LeVert | Okoro
Mitchell

Wolves get a PG.
Gobert
Reid | Anderson
Jaden
Edwards
Garland | Conley

Wolveswin wrote:

QMemphis wrote:The trade should be Mitchell and Strus for Bridges and Cam Johnson

No. Neither trade should happen. Mitchell or Garland.

Mitchell is Nets most likely candidate to acquire via 2025 free agency. One can’t trade for him (see exceptions below). One can’t trade for a questionable fit in Garland.

Only exception in trading for Mitchell is if Nets go all-in for Mitchell (because they want him now and confident he won’t bolt) AND another player to join him. Nets would spend all their assets but be left holding a big 3 in Mitchell | Bridges | X.

Please make the case for Garland being a poor fit in BKN. Garland wouldn’t be a bad fit on any team. I think he’d be excellent with players like Thomas, Claxton and Johnson around him.

axeman23 wrote:

bkohler wrote:I’d do this in a heart beat if I were Cleveland; seems like the perfect way to incentivize Mitchell to extend. Build a team that can cover all his deficiencies and let him handle the ball as much as he wants.

Which in turn seems the perfect way to incentivize me, and plenty of other Cavs fans, to tune out. Not interested in watching "The Great and Powerful Donovan Show" week in/week out. May as well then trade Mobley and Allen for 2 lumbering oafs to just sit under the ring, grab the board, and pass back out to Mitchell for another shot. I'm sure that's EXACTLY how Mobley envisaged his career going...

Remind me, what’s the Cavs record while Mitchell has been running the offense? And what’s the cavs record with garland in the side this season?

There's just no chance the Cavs trade Garland while Mitchell is a flight risk.

jarryd3107 wrote:

Wolveswin wrote:

QMemphis wrote:The trade should be Mitchell and Strus for Bridges and Cam Johnson

No. Neither trade should happen. Mitchell or Garland.

Mitchell is Nets most likely candidate to acquire via 2025 free agency. One can’t trade for him (see exceptions below). One can’t trade for a questionable fit in Garland.

Only exception in trading for Mitchell is if Nets go all-in for Mitchell (because they want him now and confident he won’t bolt) AND another player to join him. Nets would spend all their assets but be left holding a big 3 in Mitchell | Bridges | X.

Please make the case for Garland being a poor fit in BKN. Garland wouldn’t be a bad fit on any team. I think he’d be excellent with players like Thomas, Claxton and Johnson around him.

You misunderstood. Bad fit with Mitchell. And by bad I mean Mitchell might not be begging to leave Cleveland to join back with Garland 2025 offseason.

Netaman wrote:gotta be honest, that's a good trade i think nets would/should probably do. true basketball trades like that don't seem to happen anymore but that's a good one.

Not totally dissimilar from the Sabonis-Haliburton deal. The Nets have competent wings but need an offensive engine, so that's like Sabonis and Turner being stacked, and Garland/Mitchell is like Haliburton/Fox.

jarryd3107 wrote:

axeman23 wrote:

bkohler wrote:I’d do this in a heart beat if I were Cleveland; seems like the perfect way to incentivize Mitchell to extend. Build a team that can cover all his deficiencies and let him handle the ball as much as he wants.

Which in turn seems the perfect way to incentivize me, and plenty of other Cavs fans, to tune out. Not interested in watching "The Great and Powerful Donovan Show" week in/week out. May as well then trade Mobley and Allen for 2 lumbering oafs to just sit under the ring, grab the board, and pass back out to Mitchell for another shot. I'm sure that's EXACTLY how Mobley envisaged his career going...

Remind me, what’s the Cavs record while Mitchell has been running the offense? And what’s the cavs record with garland in the side this season?

This wouldn't BE DM "running the offense", this is basically giving DM the green light to BE the offense, while everyone else defends and rebounds, then give him the ball again, with a few garbage point buckets sprinkled around to "the help". STUUUUUUUFFFFF watching THAT! I'd quit watching basketball before I watched that...