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Now, more than ever, Philly should add DeRozan. It made sense to me before, but now he can help keep their RS going, while the Sixers wait on Embiid. He can still be a VERY good 3rd option come playoff time

Covington/MMorris/'26 1st Philly is owed (would LOVE to get the Clipper '28 1st-if Drummond is there?)

Sixers get a scorer cheap, and a great vet leader. Does not affect future cap space any

Bulls reset their lineup around Lavine (no need to sell him while his value is SO low). Also, PWill can move to the 3 spot, where he would be better

pipfan wrote:Now, more than ever, Philly should add DeRozan. It made sense to me before, but now he can help keep their RS going, while the Sixers wait on Embiid. He can still be a VERY good 3rd option come playoff time

Covington/MMorris/'26 1st Philly is owed (would LOVE to get the Clipper '28 1st-if Drummond is there?)

Sixers get a scorer cheap, and a great vet leader. Does not affect future cap space any

Bulls reset their lineup around Lavine (no need to sell him while his value is SO low). Also, PWill can move to the 3 spot, where he would be better

I imagine they'd need Drummond in there just to give up that '26 pick.

I'd give up the Clippers pick for Caruso if that was on the table...

As a Sixers fan I say yes, do the Bulls do it?

I think this is a great move for the Bulls and a bad one for Philly especially given the Embiid uncertainty. If they use assets, they need a forward looking return on them not a 35 year old expiring contract. They shouldn't make single year investments right now.

Something like
Philly out: Morris, Covington, Korkmaz, House, '26 1st, 3 2nds, some cash.
Philly in: Derozan, Drummond

Would get Philly out of the tax, bolster the lineup a ton this year, and not take away any cap space plans.

Can be set up like:
Philly out: Morris, Covington, Korkmaz, House, '26 1st, 3 2nds, some cash.
Philly in: Derozan, Drummond

Chicago out: Derozan, Drummond
Chicago in: Morris, Covington, House, '26 1st, 2 2nds

Washington out: fake 2nd
Washington in: Korkmaz, 2nd and cash.

Can rearrange the 2 2nds versus 2nd/cash, but this would really get Philly a thread the needle and so what if you gave up a crappy 1st for a team that still isn't going anywhere without Embiid, as if Embiid comes back you gave him some nice support.

Chicago gets expirings and assets. Washington gets expirings and assets.

Now that Embiid is injured. The Sixers aren’t spending any assets for short term improvement. All moves should now be made with long term success in mind!

Yeah I like the value in HW idea. With that group, Philly could hope to stay out of the play in and hopefully Joel is back healthy by then. Not a Philly fan, but I’d really like to see Joel healthy in playoffs every year..

And I like Chicago waiting a couple years for the pick to convey. They should be bottoming out completely and the pick will convey once they are looking at trying to compete again. No need in starting a rookie contract clock this summer, unless it’s a lottery pick..

For Chicago, this could be the rightful rebuild move or they could look to flip the pick and a minor asset of their own for Grant or Kuzma, or such and continue their play-in push but get a good amount younger..

HartfordWhalers wrote:Something like
Philly out: Morris, Covington, Korkmaz, House, '26 1st, 3 2nds, some cash.
Philly in: Derozan, Drummond

Would get Philly out of the tax, bolster the lineup a ton this year, and not take away any cap space plans.

Can be set up like:
Philly out: Morris, Covington, Korkmaz, House, '26 1st, 3 2nds, some cash.
Philly in: Derozan, Drummond

Chicago out: Derozan, Drummond
Chicago in: Morris, Covington, House, '26 1st, 2 2nds

Washington out: fake 2nd
Washington in: Korkmaz, 2nd and cash.

Can rearrange the 2 2nds versus 2nd/cash, but this would really get Philly a thread the needle and so what if you gave up a crappy 1st for a team that still isn't going anywhere without Embiid, as if Embiid comes back you gave him some nice support.

Chicago gets expirings and assets. Washington gets expirings and assets.

Sixers would only have 13 on the roster after that at around 1.3M under. Can they sign a prorated min player to get back to 14 and stay under?

The Bulls are going to require at least one pick to tank this year. They give up their expiring leading scorer and leader for 2 bench guys who shouldn't take any minutes from Terry, Phillips or even Craig. So without at least one decent pick or 2 late ones where's the gain for getting 2 expiring contracts that total the same as the one with a better player they give up? Oh yeah it has to be 2 picks if Drummond is part of it and the Bulls are helping PHIL get to a title .

If Derozan can get 2 picks or a decent one, Chicago shouldn't hesitate to do so.

the_process wrote:

HartfordWhalers wrote:Something like
Philly out: Morris, Covington, Korkmaz, House, '26 1st, 3 2nds, some cash.
Philly in: Derozan, Drummond

Would get Philly out of the tax, bolster the lineup a ton this year, and not take away any cap space plans.

Can be set up like:
Philly out: Morris, Covington, Korkmaz, House, '26 1st, 3 2nds, some cash.
Philly in: Derozan, Drummond

Chicago out: Derozan, Drummond
Chicago in: Morris, Covington, House, '26 1st, 2 2nds

Washington out: fake 2nd
Washington in: Korkmaz, 2nd and cash.

Can rearrange the 2 2nds versus 2nd/cash, but this would really get Philly a thread the needle and so what if you gave up a crappy 1st for a team that still isn't going anywhere without Embiid, as if Embiid comes back you gave him some nice support.

Chicago gets expirings and assets. Washington gets expirings and assets.

Sixers would only have 13 on the roster after that at around 1.3M under. Can they sign a prorated min player to get back to 14 and stay under?

Without having done hard math, they should be able to. It is less than half a season left.

CHI gets Wiggins, Covington, and 26 OKC 1st
GSW gets Morris and Okeke
ORL gets Korkmaz, House, Craig, 24 NYK 2nd, and 27 PHI 2nd
PHI gets DeRozan, Drummond, and Santos

PhillyNj wrote:Now that Embiid is injured. The Sixers aren’t spending any assets for short term improvement. All moves should now be made with long term success in mind!

Depends on Embiid’s prognosis IMO. If there’s a reasonable chance he comes back before the playoffs, it would definitely be worth spending some assets to get a short-term upgrade to help Philly maintain their seeding and position themselves for a serious playoff run.

Maybe it’s PTSD from the “two timelines” fiasco, but I hate seeing teams with a superstar in his prime throw in the towel on a season that still has promise…

gswhoops wrote:

PhillyNj wrote:Now that Embiid is injured. The Sixers aren’t spending any assets for short term improvement. All moves should now be made with long term success in mind!

Depends on Embiid’s prognosis IMO. If there’s a reasonable chance he comes back before the playoffs, it would definitely be worth spending some assets to get a short-term upgrade to help Philly maintain their seeding and position themselves for a serious playoff run.

Maybe it’s PTSD from the “two timelines” fiasco, but I hate seeing teams with a superstar in his prime throw in the towel on a season that still has promise…

This is how I figure it-DDR is worth the gamble, and MAYBE he, Maxey and Harris win a round without Joel? The '26 pick is not that valuable

gswhoops wrote:

PhillyNj wrote:Now that Embiid is injured. The Sixers aren’t spending any assets for short term improvement. All moves should now be made with long term success in mind!

Depends on Embiid’s prognosis IMO. If there’s a reasonable chance he comes back before the playoffs, it would definitely be worth spending some assets to get a short-term upgrade to help Philly maintain their seeding and position themselves for a serious playoff run.

Maybe it’s PTSD from the “two timelines” fiasco, but I hate seeing teams with a superstar in his prime throw in the towel on a season that still has promise…

It’s s not throwing in the towel. It’s a legitimate injury. Things happen we can’t control. All we can do is the best we can at that point in time.

PhillyNj wrote:

gswhoops wrote:

PhillyNj wrote:Now that Embiid is injured. The Sixers aren’t spending any assets for short term improvement. All moves should now be made with long term success in mind!

Depends on Embiid’s prognosis IMO. If there’s a reasonable chance he comes back before the playoffs, it would definitely be worth spending some assets to get a short-term upgrade to help Philly maintain their seeding and position themselves for a serious playoff run.

Maybe it’s PTSD from the “two timelines” fiasco, but I hate seeing teams with a superstar in his prime throw in the towel on a season that still has promise…

It’s s not throwing in the towel. It’s a legitimate injury. Things happen we can’t control. All we can do is the best we can at that point in time.

I'm not trying to say Embiid's injury isn't legit. But unless he's out for the rest of the season + playoffs, there's no reason to use that as a reason not to pursue short-term improvement. If anything, it makes more sense to spent a little bit to get a guy who can help keep the team on the right track until Embiid is healthy again so you don't lose a chance at a deep playoff run because of bad seeding.

HartfordWhalers wrote:Something like
Philly out: Morris, Covington, Korkmaz, House, '26 1st, 3 2nds, some cash.
Philly in: Derozan, Drummond

Would get Philly out of the tax, bolster the lineup a ton this year, and not take away any cap space plans.

Can be set up like:
Philly out: Morris, Covington, Korkmaz, House, '26 1st, 3 2nds, some cash.
Philly in: Derozan, Drummond

Chicago out: Derozan, Drummond
Chicago in: Morris, Covington, House, '26 1st, 2 2nds

Washington out: fake 2nd
Washington in: Korkmaz, 2nd and cash.

Can rearrange the 2 2nds versus 2nd/cash, but this would really get Philly a thread the needle and so what if you gave up a crappy 1st for a team that still isn't going anywhere without Embiid, as if Embiid comes back you gave him some nice support.

Chicago gets expirings and assets. Washington gets expirings and assets.

I could handle something like this, getting under the tax and bringing in some temporary help hoping Joel is back by the playoffs… but this would be my ceiling for these guys, I think it’s a fuzz steep for what they offer

As a Sixers fan I would love a bulls trade…just without DeRozan. A Harris + DeRozan forward duo is kind of redundant imo. Both operate in the same area offensively and neither are going to D up great wings in the playoffs. I’d rather have Caruso on the Sixers honesty.

How about…Covington, Springer, Bamba, OKC ‘26 1st, and ‘24 2nd for Caruso and Drummond?

PhillyFan11 wrote:As a Sixers fan I would love a bulls trade…just without DeRozan. A Harris + DeRozan forward duo is kind of redundant imo. Both operate in the same area offensively and neither are going to D up great wings in the playoffs. I’d rather have Caruso on the Sixers honesty.

How about…Covington, Springer, Bamba, OKC ‘26 1st, and ‘24 2nd for Caruso and Drummond?

I have that as definitely owing Chicago more value.

Caruso is worth more-Covington and the LA 1st would be the price, I'd think
Chi would say no though-they love Caruso, and rightly so