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Yup. Utah should just cut out Chicago. But what if they didn’t..

Chicago: Zach LaVine
Chicago: Collins, Harris, 2025 worst of Utah/Den/Minn/Cleve

Chicago trims 10+ million a year off LaVine’s deal while getting one of the last few picks in the draft. If they don’t want to bottom out, Harris and Collins are decent fits around Vuc/Williams/Demar/Caruso/White. But they should bottom out and trade Demar/Dre to Philly for a pick and get the best pick package possible for Caruso, even find a couple 2nds for Vooch..

Utah: Sexton, Collins, worst of Den/Minn/Utah/Cleveland
Utah: LaVine, Denver 2025 first

Ainge gets a “star” to pair with Lauri. It’s cap neutral next year, so they can still get Lauri locked up on renegotiated near max contract before adding a real second star.. the swap this year would only be a two spot jump, but there’s always a chance for next year..

Orlando: Harris and Denver first
Orlando: Sexton

Orlando pays a first to get a young enough small guard having a great season back healthy, locked up on a nice contract.

Value is ok for Orlando, but Sexton wouldnt be my choice.

For Orlando, I want to know can they move off of Cole Anthony? If they can, then yeah I like this for them. I guess one option is to send him instead of Harris with Orlando giving Chicago more value, but then Orlando probably doesn't view him as bad money, but for Chicago they'd just be downgrading with no savings for very little, so I don't think its that simple.

I don't mind this for Utah. Take money you are already spending and get a more talented guy. But I'd probably just keep rolling with Sexton and see if I can't trick Detroit into Collins this summer if nobody takes their money. Or Dallas if they can't trade for something good. Or the Kings if they want bad Kuzma only for free. Or whatever.

Like it for Chicago. Cut LaVine into Collins, then looks to do the above with Collins this summer and walk away out of the deal, with a pick, and can move Caruso for pure value on top of it.

The Bulls do it. Now they set themselves up to be able to trade DeRozan and Caruso for young under performing guys who haven't lost their potential and picks that for a change could be 2027 or later.

The 2025 pick fills in the blank for the one they need to send SA, Collins becomes the PF, Patrick Williams moves to the SF and if DeRozan stays he's the SG or they get a SG or PG for him. Caruso backs up White at either guard slot or a guy they get back for him does.

I do this too. Collins would fit well with Vuc, and PWill can play the 3. Trade DDR to Philly too (Covington, Morris, '26 1st) and the Bulls finish the year with

White/Ayo/Carter
Caruso/Harris/Ayo
PWill/Caruso/Terry
Collins/Craig/Covington
Vuc/Drummond/MMorris

Better D and younger-plus a late 1st and a future 1st and tons of long term savings.

Sexton isnt as much a passer as i would like, more combo guard. But between him, Suggs and Black, i think they could hold down the PG spot and would give the Magic a scoring and 3 pt threat at PG. If that is what it would cost, i would do it for the Magic. I agree with Chuck that a trade would need to follow, for Fultz or Anthony, or both.

Yeah, with Sexton - I think Cole should be traded. But no idea how to value him.

I think Ainge picking up Lavine on the cheap tracks. Orlando is desperate for shooting but I do wonder if Sexton is the guy.

tiderulz wrote:Sexton isnt as much a passer as i would like, more combo guard. But between him, Suggs and Black, i think they could hold down the PG spot and would give the Magic a scoring and 3 pt threat at PG. If that is what it would cost, i would do it for the Magic. I agree with Chuck that a trade would need to follow, for Fultz or Anthony, or both.

Wouldn’t Fultz make more sense that Harris heading out in the trade? Expiring money. Harris hasn’t shot well this year but for a playoff run I’d rather have home playing 15-20 minutes as a spot up guy thinking he could start hitting again. Fultz can’t shoot.

jredsaz wrote:I think Ainge picking up Lavine on the cheap tracks. Orlando is desperate for shooting but I do wonder if Sexton is the guy.

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Never mind lol

I'd rather have Collins than Lavine, and I don't want Collins.

Yeah, I didn’t know LaVine was hurt.

Time to start a DDR thread.

What about Brooklyn for Simmons. Brooklyn gets a very good player for their own overpaid permanent injured guy. Probably add a first for value. Chicago gets off the contract earlier and picks up whatever asset is the sweetener. The Nets don't lose anything by not having LaVine the rest of the season.

jayjaysee wrote:Yeah, I didn’t know LaVine was hurt.

Time to start a DDR thread.

Even hurt I think he'll have value somewhere, but it's obviously lower than it was - and IMO a team like Utah with an amazing "#2" and no "#1" is the wrong team to pay LaVine. Especially with how Sexton is playing.

babyjax13 wrote:What about Brooklyn for Simmons. Brooklyn gets a very good player for their own overpaid permanent injured guy. Probably add a first for value. Chicago gets off the contract earlier and picks up whatever asset is the sweetener. The Nets don't lose anything by not having LaVine the rest of the season.

(As Simmons’ last fan)

It’s a week late for that. Ben played and did some Ben things in his first game back a few days ago.

jayjaysee wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:What about Brooklyn for Simmons. Brooklyn gets a very good player for their own overpaid permanent injured guy. Probably add a first for value. Chicago gets off the contract earlier and picks up whatever asset is the sweetener. The Nets don't lose anything by not having LaVine the rest of the season.

(As Simmons’ last fan)

It’s a week late for that. Ben played and did some Ben things in his first game back a few days ago.

And then immediately was injured again. He's a 20 game a year guy now, good if healthy, but I don't think anyone should project him as an important part of their team.

babyjax13 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:Yeah, I didn’t know LaVine was hurt.

Time to start a DDR thread.

Even hurt I think he'll have value somewhere, but it's obviously lower than it was - and IMO a team like Utah with an amazing "#2" and no "#1" is the wrong team to pay LaVine. Especially with how Sexton is playing.

I think if Zach is more than a number 3, your team isn’t winning. I know he’s too expensive to be a number 3 but yeah.

The OP’s picture was Utah adding a player as good/better than Lauri this offseason, after he renegotiate/extend.

jayjaysee wrote:

babyjax13 wrote:

jayjaysee wrote:Yeah, I didn’t know LaVine was hurt.

Time to start a DDR thread.

Even hurt I think he'll have value somewhere, but it's obviously lower than it was - and IMO a team like Utah with an amazing "#2" and no "#1" is the wrong team to pay LaVine. Especially with how Sexton is playing.

I think if Zach is more than a number 3, your team isn’t winning. I know he’s too expensive to be a number 3 but yeah.

The OP’s picture was Utah adding a player as good/better than Lauri this offseason, after he renegotiate/extend.

I think that add is probably impossible if we have to pay LaVine like that, and Sexton looks like a good enough #3 option. He's suddenly really fantastic, which is great! We will see if it continues, I'm more skeptical that I was with Lauri. With him you watched one game and immediately thought, "oh, he's actually a star."

Value is good for ORL but really have to rationalize Sexton’s fit. Being small doesnt make one a PG. He’s thriving now, because he’s not playing point (I haven’t watched, just read). Unless Suggs is moving to the bench, this really doesn’t solve ORL’s problems. He’s, I guess, a better Cole Anthony - which is a good player, but not really what’s missing in ORL.

It’s too convenient for us ORL fans to keep saying “Suggs is a PG. Sexton’s a PG. Cole Anthony is a PG”. ORL may not need a 100% old-school CP3 at PG (because of Franz & Paolo’s skillsets), but they do need a little more offensive creation from the backcourt to give them a break.