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OKC trade: Bertans, Jaylin Williams, worse of MIA/PHI 2025 protected 1st
OKC receive: Portis, OPJ

Toronto trade: Brown, OPJ
Toronto receive: Connaughton, Bertans, min filler, worse of MIA/PHI 2025 protected 1st

Milwaukee trade: Portis, Connaughton, filler
Milwaukee receive: Brown, Jaylin Williams

Why for OKC: Load up on veteran forwards for playoffs
Why for Milwaukee: upgrade D
Why for Toronto: get a late 1st for Brown

Raps are not taking on 2 more years of Conn and having to buyout Bertans for a very late 1st.

They should be able to get a late 1st without also taking on 2 bad vontracts that don't expire.

OKC might do it for Portis, but OPJ would be buried on the bench. Milwaukee probably shouldn't do it as losing the size of Portis probably hurts their rotation more than adding Brown would help. I'm not sure about Toronto here. I guess the thinking is they can take the $5.25M hit for Bertans next year as they'll be rebuilding and can flip Connaughton for another pick down the line.

It might work better without OPJ. Connaughton to OKC with AJ Green, expiring, from Milwaukee to Toronto. Then adding the lesser of OKC/LAC 2024 FRP to Toronto. So Toronto gets two FRP and only takes on the $5.25M hit for next year with Bertans. They might even keep him in hopes of using his expiring to work out a trade next season.

I like the structure of:

OKC: Portis, Connaughton
MKE: Perimeter defender, serviceable big
Team X: Filler, picks

I really think Portis would be awesome for OKC, Connaughton a great culture guy that can soak some minutes. They can use some of their lesser picks to make it happen, Bucks flip those picks for a 2 next to Lillard.

Not sold that guy is Bruce Brown, but it is interesting.

Presti see’s that Bertan’s contract as an asset as it can be bought out for 5 mil next year

I think he’s after something better than Portis and definitely wouldn’t give up a first here

5salmon wrote:Presti see’s that Bertan’s contract as an asset as it can be bought out for 5 mil next year

I think he’s after something better than Portis and definitely wouldn’t give up a first here

Let’s not create untrue statement .

Paying 5m for nothing is not an asset.

Devilanche wrote:

5salmon wrote:Presti see’s that Bertan’s contract as an asset as it can be bought out for 5 mil next year

I think he’s after something better than Portis and definitely wouldn’t give up a first here

Let’s not create untrue statement .

Paying 5m for nothing is not an asset.

But it does open up 10.75 mill in cap space.

Yeah Toronto isn't doing this, we are a bad team right now. Trading Brown who is a slightly positive asset for a negative one in Bertans and another we don't need in Pat isn't a smart look. Just to get a late first next year from Philly or Miami

I don't think OKC would trade a first straight up for Portis, let alone give up a young versatile big when that's exactly the type of player they want backing up Chet.

Portis for Kenrich Williams makes a little more sense.

I have Toronto and the Bucks both getting too much value at OKC's expense. Pat C and $5M in dead is definitely worth taking on to get a first for Brown.

And Portis shouldn't dump Pat C, and get Brown and Williams.

This only works because OKC overpays.

CP3nthusiast wrote:Portis for Kenrich Williams makes a little more sense.

Nah, it really doesn't.

Swish77 wrote:

Devilanche wrote:

5salmon wrote:Presti see’s that Bertan’s contract as an asset as it can be bought out for 5 mil next year

I think he’s after something better than Portis and definitely wouldn’t give up a first here

Let’s not create untrue statement .

Paying 5m for nothing is not an asset.

But it does open up 10.75 mill in cap space.

And 5m as dead cap , if you waive him.

Devilanche wrote:

Swish77 wrote:

Devilanche wrote:Let’s not create untrue statement .

Paying 5m for nothing is not an asset.

But it does open up 10.75 mill in cap space.

And 5m as dead cap , if you waive him.

He makes 16 mill. Thats 10.75 in open cap space.

Swish77 wrote:

Devilanche wrote:

Swish77 wrote:

But it does open up 10.75 mill in cap space.

And 5m as dead cap , if you waive him.

He makes 16 mill. Thats 10.75 in open cap space.

Once you waived him that’s 5m as dead cap .

If you get someone else instead as 16-17m expiring that’s still 17m sitting on the bench as potential production or salary matching but a waived player is dead cap on your salary.


Put it this way, would you rather trade an expiring today for him so you can waive him for 5m next year ?
Or would you rather hold on to the expiring ?

Devilanche wrote:

Swish77 wrote:

Devilanche wrote:
And 5m as dead cap , if you waive him.

He makes 16 mill. Thats 10.75 in open cap space.

Once you waived him that’s 5m as dead cap .

If you get someone else instead as 16-17m expiring that’s still 17m sitting on the bench as potential production or salary matching but a waived player is dead cap on your salary.


Put it this way, would you rather trade an expiring today for him so you can waive him for 5m next year ?
Or would you rather hold on to the expiring ?

Id rather release him cost me 5 mill so It can open up 10.75 mill so i can take on someone else's bad contract and grab more assets like OKC has done for years. Only a few teams have cap space. If okc is one of them they can take on more money. Like they have been for years.And its working for them.

Swish77 wrote:

Devilanche wrote:

Swish77 wrote:
He makes 16 mill. Thats 10.75 in open cap space.

Once you waived him that’s 5m as dead cap .

If you get someone else instead as 16-17m expiring that’s still 17m sitting on the bench as potential production or salary matching but a waived player is dead cap on your salary.


Put it this way, would you rather trade an expiring today for him so you can waive him for 5m next year ?
Or would you rather hold on to the expiring ?

Id rather release him cost me 5 mill so It can open up 10.75 mill so i can take on someone else's bad contract and grab more assets like OKC has done for years. Only a few teams have cap space. If okc is one of them they can take on more money. Like they have been for years.And its working for themt. There winning now with him making 17 on the bench so why does it matter? its working for them so why stop?

Swish77 wrote:

Swish77 wrote:

Devilanche wrote:Once you waived him that’s 5m as dead cap .

If you get someone else instead as 16-17m expiring that’s still 17m sitting on the bench as potential production or salary matching but a waived player is dead cap on your salary.


Put it this way, would you rather trade an expiring today for him so you can waive him for 5m next year ?
Or would you rather hold on to the expiring ?

Id rather release him cost me 5 mill so It can open up 10.75 mill so i can take on someone else's bad contract and grab more assets like OKC has done for years. Only a few teams have cap space. If okc is one of them they can take on more money. Like they have been for years.And its working for themt. There winning now with him making 17 on the bench so why does it matter? its working for them so why stop?

because now is the best time to add win now help and still stay under the tax before all their rookie scale players need new contracts

Godaddycurse wrote:

Swish77 wrote:

Swish77 wrote:

Id rather release him cost me 5 mill so It can open up 10.75 mill so i can take on someone else's bad contract and grab more assets like OKC has done for years. Only a few teams have cap space. If okc is one of them they can take on more money. Like they have been for years.And its working for themt. There winning now with him making 17 on the bench so why does it matter? its working for them so why stop?

because now is the best time to add win now help and still stay under the tax before all their rookie scale players need new contracts

There winning tho? Your acting like there not winning. Add win now help there 2nd in the west? and at times looked like the best team in the west. 4 years from now the cap could be 50% more then it is now. plus you got rookie ext. Which don't hurt the teams now.

Swish77 wrote:

Godaddycurse wrote:

Swish77 wrote:
Id rather release him cost me 5 mill so It can open up 10.75 mill so i can take on someone else's bad contract and grab more assets like OKC has done for years. Only a few teams have cap space. If okc is one of them they can take on more money. Like they have been for years.And its working for themt. There winning now with him making 17 on the bench so why does it matter? its working for them so why stop?

because now is the best time to add win now help and still stay under the tax before all their rookie scale players need new contracts

There winning tho? Your acting like there not winning. Add win now help there 2nd in the west? and at times looked like the best team in the west. 4 years from now the cap could be 50% more then it is now. plus you got rookie ext. Which don't hurt the teams now.

Playoffs is a different beast

Swish77 wrote:

Devilanche wrote:

Swish77 wrote:
He makes 16 mill. Thats 10.75 in open cap space.

Once you waived him that’s 5m as dead cap .

If you get someone else instead as 16-17m expiring that’s still 17m sitting on the bench as potential production or salary matching but a waived player is dead cap on your salary.


Put it this way, would you rather trade an expiring today for him so you can waive him for 5m next year ?
Or would you rather hold on to the expiring ?

Id rather release him cost me 5 mill so It can open up 10.75 mill so i can take on someone else's bad contract and grab more assets like OKC has done for years. Only a few teams have cap space. If okc is one of them they can take on more money. Like they have been for years.And its working for them.

If you are a cap space team , sure . But OKC as a cap space team just sell that cap space for decent-ish expiring and then reroute those elsewhere to end up with bad contract that we then buyout.