ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA?

Moderators: MoneyTalks41890, HartfordWhalers, Texas Chuck, BullyKing, Andre Roberstan, loserX, Trader_Joe, Mamba4Goat, pacers33granger

Skybox
RealGM
Posts: 18,367
And1: 8,424
Joined: Jan 21, 2017
 

ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#1 » by Skybox » Sat Feb 10, 2024 4:53 pm

ORL has a glaring need for backcourt scoring and, ideally, floor spreading for Paolo & Franz' unstoppable drives to the hoop.

ORL, assuming they don't fall apart, will look back on a successful season as they have moved forward (even if they get smacked around in the first round), despite not making any moves of significance. They are a good young team and the FO, apparently, is content with slow and steady rather than a big splash mid-season.

They'll have a ton of money with Fultz, Gary Harris, Chuma Okeke, Goga Bitadze expiring and Jonathan Isaac, Caleb Houstan, and Joe Ingles on Team Options.

Who should they be calling at midnight of free agency?

(I think a trade is really where it's at, but let's keep it simple)
jbk1234
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 58,908
And1: 35,992
Joined: Dec 22, 2010
 

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#2 » by jbk1234 » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:17 pm

If Morey tries to get Heild on the cheap, he pairs well with Suggs and Black.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
mademan
RealGM
Posts: 31,925
And1: 31,034
Joined: Feb 18, 2010

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#3 » by mademan » Sat Feb 10, 2024 5:51 pm

I think they'll have enough money to throw a decent offer at Claxton or, failing that, IH. I think they need a defensive C, a bit of shooting and to let the young guys on their team grow.
DowJones
RealGM
Posts: 16,440
And1: 7,522
Joined: Feb 22, 2008

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#4 » by DowJones » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:12 pm

Malik Monk makes sense for them. They really need an A-level PG but I don't see any really available in free agency and I don't think they would be willing to give up Franz in order to bring one in.I guess if they make a massive offer to OG then it makes Franz a more likely trade candidate for a really good PG.
User avatar
tiderulz
RealGM
Posts: 36,918
And1: 14,847
Joined: Jun 16, 2010
Location: Atlanta
 

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#5 » by tiderulz » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:29 pm

DowJones wrote:Malik Monk makes sense for them. They really need an A-level PG but I don't see any really available in free agency and I don't think they would be willing to give up Franz in order to bring one in.I guess if they make a massive offer to OG then it makes Franz a more likely trade candidate for a really good PG.

why would they make a big offer to OG when we already have Franz? and with Orlando's injured player history, OG cant stay healthy himself
JRoy
RealGM
Posts: 16,608
And1: 13,970
Joined: Feb 27, 2019
 

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#6 » by JRoy » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:31 pm

DowJones wrote:Malik Monk makes sense for them. They really need an A-level PG but I don't see any really available in free agency and I don't think they would be willing to give up Franz in order to bring one in.I guess if they make a massive offer to OG then it makes Franz a more likely trade candidate for a really good PG.


They need a big time upgrade at pg, one that can make plays and shoot. Fultz and Anthony are bench pieces.
Edrees wrote:
JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all


I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
Norm2953
RealGM
Posts: 16,457
And1: 2,207
Joined: May 17, 2003
Location: Oregon

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#7 » by Norm2953 » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:36 pm

Skybox would be so happy if Simons ever gets traded to Orlando
DowJones
RealGM
Posts: 16,440
And1: 7,522
Joined: Feb 22, 2008

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#8 » by DowJones » Sat Feb 10, 2024 6:42 pm

tiderulz wrote:
DowJones wrote:Malik Monk makes sense for them. They really need an A-level PG but I don't see any really available in free agency and I don't think they would be willing to give up Franz in order to bring one in.I guess if they make a massive offer to OG then it makes Franz a more likely trade candidate for a really good PG.

why would they make a big offer to OG when we already have Franz? and with Orlando's injured player history, OG cant stay healthy himself


Because that would free Orlando up to trade Franz for a really good PG. Orlando really needs a PG and I don't see any available in free agency that moves the needle, and I don't think Orlando has the trade assets to bring one in unless they offer Franz. I am thinking they could target a Young or Garland type with Franz. That is what Orlando really needs.
zaymon
Head Coach
Posts: 6,072
And1: 3,407
Joined: Jul 01, 2015
   

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#9 » by zaymon » Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:26 pm

DowJones wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
DowJones wrote:Malik Monk makes sense for them. They really need an A-level PG but I don't see any really available in free agency and I don't think they would be willing to give up Franz in order to bring one in.I guess if they make a massive offer to OG then it makes Franz a more likely trade candidate for a really good PG.

why would they make a big offer to OG when we already have Franz? and with Orlando's injured player history, OG cant stay healthy himself


Because that would free Orlando up to trade Franz for a really good PG. Orlando really needs a PG and I don't see any available in free agency that moves the needle, and I don't think Orlando has the trade assets to bring one in unless they offer Franz. I am thinking they could target a Young or Garland type with Franz. That is what Orlando really needs.


No chance we will trade Franz. We want pg next to Franz and Paolo not instead of one of them. Clippers didnt trade George for Harden.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
Skybox
RealGM
Posts: 18,367
And1: 8,424
Joined: Jan 21, 2017
 

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#10 » by Skybox » Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:39 pm

Norm2953 wrote:Skybox would be so happy if Simons ever gets traded to Orlando


You know it...Me, Franz, and, especially, Paolo - who won't have to score 25 for ORL to win every night! He might even get some double digit assists if somebody would make the open 3's he creates. :D
Residual-Heat
Starter
Posts: 2,355
And1: 1,398
Joined: Feb 03, 2023
 

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#11 » by Residual-Heat » Sat Feb 10, 2024 8:41 pm

First thing id do is probably offer Quickley a big contract and see if Toronto matches. Not sure how much id offer, but has to be an overpay.
DowJones
RealGM
Posts: 16,440
And1: 7,522
Joined: Feb 22, 2008

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#12 » by DowJones » Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:18 pm

zaymon wrote:
DowJones wrote:
tiderulz wrote:why would they make a big offer to OG when we already have Franz? and with Orlando's injured player history, OG cant stay healthy himself


Because that would free Orlando up to trade Franz for a really good PG. Orlando really needs a PG and I don't see any available in free agency that moves the needle, and I don't think Orlando has the trade assets to bring one in unless they offer Franz. I am thinking they could target a Young or Garland type with Franz. That is what Orlando really needs.


No chance we will trade Franz. We want pg next to Franz and Paolo not instead of one of them. Clippers didnt trade George for Harden.


Maybe Murray? Some first round picks and Black might get it done. I’m not sure Orlando can do better.
Devilanche
General Manager
Posts: 7,781
And1: 2,460
Joined: Dec 22, 2010

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#13 » by Devilanche » Sat Feb 10, 2024 11:25 pm

DowJones wrote:
zaymon wrote:
DowJones wrote:
Because that would free Orlando up to trade Franz for a really good PG. Orlando really needs a PG and I don't see any available in free agency that moves the needle, and I don't think Orlando has the trade assets to bring one in unless they offer Franz. I am thinking they could target a Young or Garland type with Franz. That is what Orlando really needs.


No chance we will trade Franz. We want pg next to Franz and Paolo not instead of one of them. Clippers didnt trade George for Harden.


Maybe Murray? Some first round picks and Black might get it done. I’m not sure Orlando can do better.

This is the only available PG as of today.

Nobody else project as starter quality or a clear upgrade over their backcourt.
MoneyTalks41890 wrote:No I’m myopic and shortsighted and I want my pile of draft picks.


meekrab wrote:Nothing Jerry Rein$dorf loves more than a visit from Cash Considerations.
NYG
RealGM
Posts: 14,990
And1: 2,983
Joined: Aug 09, 2017

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#14 » by NYG » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:10 pm

Skybox wrote:ORL has a glaring need for backcourt scoring and, ideally, floor spreading for Paolo & Franz' unstoppable drives to the hoop.

ORL, assuming they don't fall apart, will look back on a successful season as they have moved forward (even if they get smacked around in the first round), despite not making any moves of significance. They are a good young team and the FO, apparently, is content with slow and steady rather than a big splash mid-season.

They'll have a ton of money with Fultz, Gary Harris, Chuma Okeke, Goga Bitadze expiring and Jonathan Isaac, Caleb Houstan, and Joe Ingles on Team Options.

Who should they be calling at midnight of free agency?

(I think a trade is really where it's at, but let's keep it simple)


Cole Anthony $12,900,000
Paolo Banchero $12,160,800
Wendell Carter Jr. $11,950,000
Jalen Suggs $9,188,385
Moritz Wagner $8,000,000
Anthony Black $7,607,760
Franz Wagner $7,007,092
Jett Howard $5,278,320
16th Overall $4,060,800
Empty Roster Cap Holds $3,506,472

Total Salary $78,153,157
Cap Space $60,340,371
Skybox
RealGM
Posts: 18,367
And1: 8,424
Joined: Jan 21, 2017
 

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#15 » by Skybox » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:26 pm

Residual-Heat wrote:First thing id do is probably offer Quickley a big contract and see if Toronto matches. Not sure how much id offer, but has to be an overpay.



Certainly not banking on them not matching...I read recently (with a giant grain of salt) that there may be some dysfunction in the Barnes/IQ pairing...I'd at least make a call - it would very likely evolve into a SnT if not hung up on. IQ was very high on my trade target list - I knew NY had a good chance of moving him as the offers would outweigh NY's value with Brunson on board...however, I understand that NY wanted an OG-level return and TOR really wanted IQ-so they'll likely match.
User avatar
Ducklett
General Manager
Posts: 8,047
And1: 5,507
Joined: Jul 17, 2012
 

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#16 » by Ducklett » Sun Feb 11, 2024 6:59 pm

I think the league will look very different by the start of free agency. Teams will have had playoff pushes and playoff runs and hopefully some players get frustrated and we pounce on those opportunities. As for right this second, I would concerned about who we are keeping as far as our own free agents go. Isaac is closing out overtime/fourth quarter. Is he fully ready to play big minutes? The big splash is important, but most of thr magic wins come off having one of the best bench mobs in the league.
basketballwacko2
RealGM
Posts: 22,063
And1: 4,352
Joined: May 11, 2002
Location: Just outside of No where.
     

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#17 » by basketballwacko2 » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:46 pm

Skybox wrote:ORL has a glaring need for backcourt scoring and, ideally, floor spreading for Paolo & Franz' unstoppable drives to the hoop.

ORL, assuming they don't fall apart, will look back on a successful season as they have moved forward (even if they get smacked around in the first round), despite not making any moves of significance. They are a good young team and the FO, apparently, is content with slow and steady rather than a big splash mid-season.

They'll have a ton of money with Fultz, Gary Harris, Chuma Okeke, Goga Bitadze expiring and Jonathan Isaac, Caleb Houstan, and Joe Ingles on Team Options.

Who should they be calling at midnight of free agency?

(I think a trade is really where it's at, but let's keep it simple)



That's weird I slept through the deadline myself. I worked late on Wed and didn't get up till about 5 pm.
Residual-Heat
Starter
Posts: 2,355
And1: 1,398
Joined: Feb 03, 2023
 

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#18 » by Residual-Heat » Sun Feb 11, 2024 8:51 pm

Skybox wrote:
Residual-Heat wrote:First thing id do is probably offer Quickley a big contract and see if Toronto matches. Not sure how much id offer, but has to be an overpay.



Certainly not banking on them not matching...I read recently (with a giant grain of salt) that there may be some dysfunction in the Barnes/IQ pairing...I'd at least make a call - it would very likely evolve into a SnT if not hung up on. IQ was very high on my trade target list - I knew NY had a good chance of moving him as the offers would outweigh NY's value with Brunson on board...however, I understand that NY wanted an OG-level return and TOR really wanted IQ-so they'll likely match.

yeah the Raptors are likely to match, but it wont hurt the Magic to try as long is its not a massive overpay.
orlando_joe
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,879
And1: 1,908
Joined: Dec 27, 2015
     

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#19 » by orlando_joe » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:15 pm

Ducklett wrote:I think the league will look very different by the start of free agency. Teams will have had playoff pushes and playoff runs and hopefully some players get frustrated and we pounce on those opportunities. As for right this second, I would concerned about who we are keeping as far as our own free agents go. Isaac is closing out overtime/fourth quarter. Is he fully ready to play big minutes? The big splash is important, but most of thr magic wins come off having one of the best bench mobs in the league.


if isaac can finish season healthy i dont see any way magic do not pick up option
Wolveswin
General Manager
Posts: 7,998
And1: 2,833
Joined: Aug 22, 2020
 

Re: ORL sleeps through trade deadline...who's their FA? 

Post#20 » by Wolveswin » Sun Feb 11, 2024 9:34 pm

NYG wrote:
Skybox wrote:ORL has a glaring need for backcourt scoring and, ideally, floor spreading for Paolo & Franz' unstoppable drives to the hoop.

ORL, assuming they don't fall apart, will look back on a successful season as they have moved forward (even if they get smacked around in the first round), despite not making any moves of significance. They are a good young team and the FO, apparently, is content with slow and steady rather than a big splash mid-season.

They'll have a ton of money with Fultz, Gary Harris, Chuma Okeke, Goga Bitadze expiring and Jonathan Isaac, Caleb Houstan, and Joe Ingles on Team Options.

Who should they be calling at midnight of free agency?

(I think a trade is really where it's at, but let's keep it simple)


Cole Anthony $12,900,000
Paolo Banchero $12,160,800
Wendell Carter Jr. $11,950,000
Jalen Suggs $9,188,385
Moritz Wagner $8,000,000
Anthony Black $7,607,760
Franz Wagner $7,007,092
Jett Howard $5,278,320
16th Overall $4,060,800
Empty Roster Cap Holds $3,506,472

Total Salary $78,153,157
Cap Space $60,340,371

Are they really letting Isaac go?

Return to Trades and Transactions