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Using a few recent trade discussions around both teams, would a trade like this have any chance?

ATL sends:
Murray
Hunter
Okongwu

NO sends:
Ingram
Jones
Nance

It works financially next year

ATL isn't owed Herb Jones in this deal.

Way too good for ATL. Pels need additional value here

needs reasons for each team please

Hell no, Ingram is better then murray, Herb is miles ahead of Hunter, both a year younger.
Nance to Okongwu is not big of a gap or need to offset that.

Mrakar wrote:Hell no, Ingram is better then murray, Herb is miles ahead of Hunter, both a year younger.
Nance to Okongwu is not big of a gap or need to offset that.

Agreed about the value being off here, Herb likely a keeper, but let's expand the discussion beyond "no/yes to this trade."

What kind of realistic value do you think Ingram has with his contract status? Which team is going to offer good players and picks for Ingram in the last year of his contract on the verge of demanding a veteran max going from 40-50m/ yr. ? When you frame it like that objectively, the BI value discussion changes.

Obviously the most likely scenario is David Griffin stubbornly not trading Ingram (or Zion or McCullom) either extending BI this offseason or risk going into next season with him in his last year heading to UFA, in a lame-duck Siakam type situation where you'd then have to settle for lower trade value or have the max ready. Then if/when the BI extension is signed, then the roster cap/lux tax will force Pels to trade 2 of Zion, McCullom or Murphy, since BI's 40+mil./yr. Will force that cap crunch.

Nets, Kings and Jazz make sense as trade for Ingram teams this summer. But can also see reasons why they wouldn't or that Griffin will pass on offers he seems as too low.

MKWB wrote:

Mrakar wrote:Hell no, Ingram is better then murray, Herb is miles ahead of Hunter, both a year younger.
Nance to Okongwu is not big of a gap or need to offset that.

Agreed about the value being off here, Herb likely a keeper, but let's expand the discussion beyond "no/yes to this trade."

What kind of realistic value do you think Ingram has with his contract status? Which team is going to offer good players and picks for Ingram in the last year of his contract on the verge of demanding a veteran max going from 40-50m/ yr. ? When you frame it like that objectively, the BI value discussion changes.

Obviously the most likely scenario is David Griffin stubbornly not trading Ingram (or Zion or McCullom) either extending BI this offseason or risk going into next season with him in his last year heading to UFA, in a lame-duck Siakam type situation where you'd then have to settle for lower trade value or have the max ready. Then if/when the BI extension is signed, then the roster cap/lux tax will force Pels to trade 2 of Zion, McCullom or Murphy, since BI's 40+mil./yr. Will force that cap crunch.

Nets, Kings and Jazz make sense as trade for Ingram teams this summer. But can also see reasons why they wouldn't or that Griffin will pass on offers he seems as too low.

This is one of those situations "he is worth more to us then is to you". I am Ingram hater, i would like to find a trade, but right now i just dont see it. If the value we are getting for him is Murray, i would rather wait and try next season or keep him.
If teams see that you are desperate for a trade, you will not get enough value back. I think we have more problems at CJ positions(he is great at 3pt this year, but that is about it, no defense, no playmaking and of course we cant trust him in clutch).

I can see a deal between these 2 teams, but not this one.


It’s going to be:

Dyson Daniels (size PG)
Larry Nance (by default due to salary)
Picks
Salary

I would like the OP to add reasons because I think it’s an interesting idea.

But I agree it’s likely Ingram and filler (not Herb) for that group of ATL players.

This gets at the picking Ingram or Zion hypothetical, and I like those players around Zion. Though the Pels really need more consolidation, not more role players.

MoneyTalks41890 wrote:I would like the OP to add reasons because I think it’s an interesting idea.

But I agree it’s likely Ingram and filler (not Herb) for that group of ATL players.

This gets at the picking Ingram or Zion hypothetical, and I like those players around Zion. Though the Pels really need more consolidation, not more role players.

That is the THING.
Pels either need to wait for a star(if somewhere goes terrible wrong, lets say tier 1: Giannis, Doncic, tier2: Mitchell, Morant, tier 3: Young, Fox..) to become availible and then empty the chest, or keep this core.
And i know players listed above are not going to ask for a trade to New Orleans(and those are examples, im not telling they will request a trade or something), but if they are under contract they dont have the choice.
Trading some1 just for sake of trading will not work.