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Wiggins and GSW are not on the same page, and he’s owed a lot of money for a lot of years. It’s likely that they will look to shop him, especially after re-signing Klay.

Toronto needs a forward after shipping out OG+Siakam+Precious. Wiggins may benefit from a fresh start in his hometown.



For salary reasons, the deal has to include Bruce Brown for Andrew Wiggins…plus it would be some incentives going to Toronto.


What would a potential do look like? Here’s a potential deal:

Option 1:
Wiggins + 2 2nds (ATL ‘26 & ‘28) for Brown


Option 2:
Wiggins + Moody for Brown + 31st pick + JMcDaniels


Toronto would love to get Moses Moody, as he has high school connections w/ Scottie Barnes.

MessiahUjiri wrote:Wiggins and GSW are not on the same page

I didn't really get past this. Why would the Warriors and Wiggins not be on the same page? Of course they are.

Would need a first to take on that contract for an expiring.

Coxy wrote:

MessiahUjiri wrote:Wiggins and GSW are not on the same page

I didn't really get past this. Why would the Warriors and Wiggins not be on the same page? Of course they are.

From what I’ve seen, there’s been discomfort in Warriors world around Wiggins not performing well.

AFAICT, the Warriors would have already traded him if his value wasn’t perceived to be negative.

Do you really think they want to pay him another ~$80M (+tax multiplier) if he performs like the last 2 years? We are going to see teams make moves this offseason for salary reasons, and a GSW/Wiggins divorce seems easily plausible.

MessiahUjiri wrote:Wiggins and GSW are not on the same page, and he’s owed a lot of money for a lot of years. It’s likely that they will look to shop him, especially after re-signing Klay.

Toronto needs a forward after shipping out OG+Siakam+Precious. Wiggins may benefit from a fresh start in his hometown.



For salary reasons, the deal has to include Bruce Brown for Andrew Wiggins…plus it would be some incentives going to Toronto.


What would a potential do look like? Here’s a potential deal:

Option 1:
Wiggins + 2 2nds (ATL ‘26 & ‘28) for Brown


Option 2:
Wiggins + Moody for Brown + 31st pick + JMcDaniels


Toronto would love to get Moses Moody, as he has high school connections w/ Scottie Barnes.

Is there room enough in Toronto for Barrett and Wiggins?

Knickfan1982 wrote:

MessiahUjiri wrote:Wiggins and GSW are not on the same page, and he’s owed a lot of money for a lot of years. It’s likely that they will look to shop him, especially after re-signing Klay.

Toronto needs a forward after shipping out OG+Siakam+Precious. Wiggins may benefit from a fresh start in his hometown.



For salary reasons, the deal has to include Bruce Brown for Andrew Wiggins…plus it would be some incentives going to Toronto.


What would a potential do look like? Here’s a potential deal:

Option 1:
Wiggins + 2 2nds (ATL ‘26 & ‘28) for Brown


Option 2:
Wiggins + Moody for Brown + 31st pick + JMcDaniels


Toronto would love to get Moses Moody, as he has high school connections w/ Scottie Barnes.

Is there room enough in Toronto for Barrett and Wiggins?

I think so. Wiggins can also play the backup PF.

Wiggins has played with ball dominant players so he knows to taper his shots. Barrett probably needs to reign in some of his premeditated drives.

MessiahUjiri wrote:

Coxy wrote:

MessiahUjiri wrote:Wiggins and GSW are not on the same page

I didn't really get past this. Why would the Warriors and Wiggins not be on the same page? Of course they are.

From what I’ve seen, there’s been discomfort in Warriors world around Wiggins not performing well.

AFAICT, the Warriors would have already traded him if his value wasn’t perceived to be negative.

Do you really think they want to pay him another ~$80M (+tax multiplier) if he performs like the last 2 years? We are going to see teams make moves this offseason for salary reasons, and a GSW/Wiggins divorce seems easily plausible.

Why would you want to trade for him then, if he’s been that bad?

He’s had some personal off court issues over the last year, and it took him a while to get going this season but he was getting really good again before the latest personal time he needed off. He’s a proven playoff performer and the Warriors aren’t unhappy with him. If you have a decent report stating otherwise, I’d love to see it.

As far as the trades go, neither are of interest. They don’t make us better, so there’s no point.

If GSW wants to move on from Wiggins, Just decline Brown option and eat Wiggins into cap space, then GSW can take on Jerami Grant or any other forward on the market.

TOR Sends: McDaniels For: Wiggins
Ws Send: Wiggins/protected 1st For: Grant
Blazers Send: Grant For: McDaniels/1st.

Blazers get breathing room under the tax, TOR stack up on Canadians and GSW get a big forward who can score and stretch he floor.
GSW can then complete the roster with MLE and BAE (Tyus Jones or Brown would be good MLE targets actually).

Toronto locking themselves into Wiggins + RJ for 55 million a year would be peak stupidity. IMO deal would have to be a swap of RJ and Wiggins just from a financial perspective, and RJ is a worse for for Golden State.

I don't think a team consistently lets a player take personal leave/absence and isn't on the same page.

Colbinii wrote:I don't think a team consistently lets a player take personal leave/absence and isn't on the same page.

NBA Today has said a few times that other players and Kerr are frustrated that he isn't playing. Especially when fighting for a play-in spot

That and his cap hit putting them further into the tax, and you can see why they might want to move on from him. Not to mention Kumingas jump in importance.

Tripod wrote:

Colbinii wrote:I don't think a team consistently lets a player take personal leave/absence and isn't on the same page.

NBA Today has said a few times that other players and Kerr are frustrated that he isn't playing. Especially when fighting for a play-in spot

That and his cap hit putting them further into the tax, and you can see why they might want to move on from him. Not to mention Kumingas jump in importance.

Frustrating, sure--but they had 2 trade deadlines to move him and didn't.

I don't see a big difference in Wiggins and Browns cap hit in 2024-2025.

Colbinii wrote:

Tripod wrote:

Colbinii wrote:I don't think a team consistently lets a player take personal leave/absence and isn't on the same page.

NBA Today has said a few times that other players and Kerr are frustrated that he isn't playing. Especially when fighting for a play-in spot

That and his cap hit putting them further into the tax, and you can see why they might want to move on from him. Not to mention Kumingas jump in importance.

Frustrating, sure--but they had 2 trade deadlines to move him and didn't.

I don't see a big difference in Wiggins and Browns cap hit in 2024-2025.

They obviously wanted to try with him in good faith. He has not played to his contract.

Starting this offseason, teams over the second apron will get severely restricted.

Brown is a little cheaper than Wiggins, expires after this season, and can play the 1-3.

Wiggins would be a ‘buy low’ reclamation project for Toronto, who would be betting that he recharges after coming home. I’m not sure it’s the best player they should target. Jerami Grant is a better defender and he should be available too, given Portlands tax situation.

MessiahUjiri wrote:Wiggins would be a ‘buy low’ reclamation project for Toronto, who would be betting that he recharges after coming home. I’m not sure it’s the best player they should target. Jerami Grant is a better defender and he should be available too, given Portlands tax situation.

I don't think Jerami Grant is a better defender, and I think most would agree that Wiggins best asset is his defence.

The 'buy low' trade ideas on Wiggins is a bit disingenuous. The Warriors need Wiggins at his best to compete, but the idea we have to trade him for a less in return which makes us worse on the court, for another team to reclaim him to his best and win the trade, is backwards. The Warriors would be better off to just not do it then, and work with him themselves. If a trade isn't going to make us better, then we don't do it.

The financial thing is also overstated, as we have both Klay and CP3's contracts coming off the books this offseason, giving them immediate relief. The find and emergence of Podz leaves both of their status's with GS up in the air.

We can't just replace Wiggins, as he plays a huge position of need for us. Bruce Brown isn't down that, so unless we can turn Wiggins into something better like Kawhi or Tatum, then we are better off not doing a trade. The idea that we have to accept a 'buy low' opportunity from another team based off some random rumours that have no facts, is sort of asinine.

I think every Wiggins trade proposal ends up in the same place. No team will take on that salary without pretty significant compensation to do so. And Golden State isn't going to give up much value (if any) just to unload him because they're better off gambling that he gets his act together and regains his 2022 form by the playoffs.

Golden State hasn't paid assets to dump Wiggins for half a decade, they're not going to do it this summer just because he had a personal issue.

I don't know what Toronto's short term plans are or should be but Wiggins is surely not in them.

MessiahUjiri wrote:
Option 1:
Wiggins + 2 2nds (ATL ‘26 & ‘28) for Brown


Option 2:
Wiggins + Moody for Brown + 31st pick + JMcDaniels


Toronto would love to get Moses Moody, as he has high school connections w/ Scottie Barnes.

Question: why would Toronto -other than he was friends with Barnes - want Moody?
They traded for Barrett, Agbaji, drafted Dick. To take Wiggins off GSW I would ask for TJD. Might just get him.

nate33 wrote:I think every Wiggins trade proposal ends up in the same place. No team will take on that salary without pretty significant compensation to do so. And Golden State isn't going to give up much value (if any) just to unload him because they're better off gambling that he gets his act together and regains his 2022 form by the playoffs.

Bingo. It's a Merry-Go-Round every time.

Would Golden State just operate above the second apron? Wiggins and CP3 for LaVine based concept?

Could LaVine/Curry co-exist? Would Klay be cool being a super 6th man if they still paid him? Can Moody/Kuminga hold it down at the 3?

babyjax13 wrote:Toronto locking themselves into Wiggins + RJ for 55 million a year would be peak stupidity. IMO deal would have to be a swap of RJ and Wiggins just from a financial perspective, and RJ is a worse for for Golden State.

RJ's been great on the Raptors so far. 61% TS and career high in ast%. Makes no sense to do a swap of the 2 for us. Do agree its silly to have both