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Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:31 pm
by _GH0ST_
Miami in: Devin Booker, Karl Anthony Towns
Miami out: Jimmy Butler, Tyler Herro, Jaime Jaquez

Phoenix in: Jimmy Butler
Phoenix out: Devin Booker. Nassir Little

Minnesota in: Tyler Herro, Jaime Jaquez, Nassir Little
Minnesota out: Karl Anthony Towns

Why for Miami: Leaving Butler's timeline and starting a younger Big 3

Why for Phoenix: Butler is currently a better playoff player than Booker and makes Phoenix more likely to win a championship in a few seasons. Beal-Butler-Durant-Nurkic legal contender team.

Why for Minnesota: Getting two young guys who fit Edwards' timeline. Jaquez is a very solid rookie. Herro could replace aging Conley. Now you have the opportunity to give Naz Reid the role he deserves.

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 1:36 pm
by Colbinii
I have Booker worth more than Butler. I consider him the better player, while also being significantly younger.

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:25 pm
by daoneandonly
Yea Miami stealing value here. Butler is great but rapidly aging, JJJ is a nice young piece, but KAT is proven, and Herro sucks

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:27 pm
by schaffy
I don't see Phoenix wanting any part of that trade

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:41 pm
by jayjaysee
Little isn’t needed in this since Booker will make more than Butler. since it seems unnecessary for him to be in it..

But I would say Booker is worth more than Butler and it’s hard to fix that. Honestly feel like Booker is worth enough more than Butler that Miami is better off just sticking with Butler..

Also don’t love it for Minnesota. JJJ is a really nice prospect, but Minn should get more for KAT.

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 2:48 pm
by gom
_GHOST_, you really should enjoy the Butler years while they last. He's a special player.

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:21 pm
by BBallFreak
This is bad for everyone but Miami.

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:44 am
by wolves_89
The only reason to consider this for the Wolves would be to save money and I really hope they don't go down that path. I expect the new ownership group in Minnesota wants to build a new arena, and doing a deal like this would be a terrible start towards building the support they will need from the fanbase and the community. My hope is that the Wolves pay the big tax bill for at least one season and making winning their clear priority.

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 7:39 am
by Wolveswin
To Suns: Towns + Robinson

To Heat: KD + Little + Moore Jr

To Wolves: Herro + Jacquez Jr + 24 Heat 1st (rights) + 29/31 Heat 1sts + 28/30 Heat Swaps

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 10:20 am
by Hoops23
Miami wins the trade

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:00 pm
by jscott
Wolves pass. This isn’t enough for KAT.

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 1:07 pm
by BBallFreak
Wolveswin wrote:To Suns: Towns + Robinson

To Heat: KD + Little + Moore Jr

To Wolves: Herro + Jacquez Jr + 24 Heat 1st (rights) + 29/31 Heat 1sts + 28/30 Heat Swaps
Nah, not giving up Jaquez, Robinson, Herro, and 3 firsts for an over the him Durant. That's too much.

Re: Miami-Phoenix-Minnesota

Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 2:33 pm
by Wolveswin
BBallFreak wrote:
Wolveswin wrote:To Suns: Towns + Robinson

To Heat: KD + Little + Moore Jr

To Wolves: Herro + Jacquez Jr + 24 Heat 1st (rights) + 29/31 Heat 1sts + 28/30 Heat Swaps
Nah, not giving up Jaquez, Robinson, Herro, and 3 firsts for an over the him Durant. That's too much.

Not saying Heat should line up for this deal (your opinion) but not all 1sts are created equal. It might be “three 1sts” but really meh.

24 non lotto 1st from weak draft (that Heat drafted)
31 will come with one chance, can’t carry over, highly at risk even happening because…
25 AND 27 Heat 1sts (owed to other teams) come with lotto protection and punt to next year. Which if EITHER one of those scenarios happens, pushes 29 mentioned to 30 and 31 never is traded.

So, you can see, it might read “3x 1sts” but a lot going on with the draft capital.